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  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,629 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Daredevil217 said:
    That’s helpful.

    I have
    5* Leap/Arrow/Omni/Red Stone
    4* Car/Krakoa
    3* Copter/Yellow Stone/ Purple Stone.

    Any advice on what to level next?

    Car by a mile. The rank 5 is heavy.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,273 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Daredevil217 said:

    @dianetics said:
    The meta has settled as much as I can tell and there are 5 supports or 6 if you have a great Stone.
    Fantasticar
    Leap
    Arrow
    Hot Dog Cart
    Omni

    It seems to me nothing else matters at higher levels.

    **edit Add Krakakoa for certain team comps.

    That’s helpful.

    I have
    5* Leap/Arrow/Omni/Red Stone
    4* Car/Krakoa
    3* Copter/Yellow Stone/ Purple Stone.

    Any advice on what to level next?

    Fantasticar > thanos copter > power stone

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,784 Chairperson of the Boards

    I think Krakoa is kind of bad -- I'm surprised folks are using it.

    I suppose it could be good if you build an all mutant team, but I haven't seen a week where that was a good option, and you would probably want the feature to be a mutant too. The other thing it's good for is as a free blue AP support, since we don't have any of those.

    But otherwise? It's 4AP vs 6AP, and I'm taking 6 every time. Am I missing something with it?

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 954 Critical Contributor

    I did the stones first. Reality, power, and currently working on time. Decided to do them first because they are never rotating into the token store or an offer outside of a comm challenge or placing 1st in pvp season. Every other support will either rotate in, be offered for purchase or in a vault. Took my Thanos copter from a 2* to a 4* with the vault just before anny started. Good decision since I haven't spent any hp on vaults during the anny. Anyways, that's my current strategy, dunno if I'm making the right decision or not but it's worked thus far.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 495 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:

    @dianetics said:
    The meta has settled as much as I can tell and there are 5 supports or 6 if you have a great Stone.
    Fantasticar
    Leap
    Arrow
    Hot Dog Cart
    Omni

    It seems to me nothing else matters at higher levels.

    **edit Add Krakakoa for certain team comps.

    Thanos Copter is very strong, it's almost an improved version of Fantasticar, but the hivemind hasn't totally caught on yet. I really like running a hero and villain with Copter and Fantasticar -- you can hit endless cascades.

    There are a couple others that are worthwhile, that I use but never see on defense. Hellfire Club is very good, but limited in who can use it. Dead Pool is also strong. Lucky is too.

    Thanoscopter is new, give people time to acquire and build it! :D

    Somehow I already have it up to 5, now dribbling rIso into it.

    Shards have pushed so many of my supports I'm constantly out of rIso ... after having little use for it and millions piling up for so long .... !

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    edited 21 October 2024, 19:56

    @entrailbucket said:
    I think Krakoa is kind of bad -- I'm surprised folks are using it.

    I suppose it could be good if you build an all mutant team, but I haven't seen a week where that was a good option, and you would probably want the feature to be a mutant too. The other thing it's good for is as a free blue AP support, since we don't have any of those.

    But otherwise? It's 4AP vs 6AP, and I'm taking 6 every time. Am I missing something with it?

    The 4 on start is guaranteed, on someone like Dark it means you start the match throwing your ability every time. If you also have someone like Coulson, the match starts with even more AP, cascades and damage, basically guaranteeing a safe victory.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,784 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    I think Krakoa is kind of bad -- I'm surprised folks are using it.

    I suppose it could be good if you build an all mutant team, but I haven't seen a week where that was a good option, and you would probably want the feature to be a mutant too. The other thing it's good for is as a free blue AP support, since we don't have any of those.

    But otherwise? It's 4AP vs 6AP, and I'm taking 6 every time. Am I missing something with it?

    The 4 on start is guaranteed, on someone like Dark it means you start the match throwing your ability every time. If you also have someone like Coulson, the match starts with even more AP, cascades and damage, basically guaranteeing a safe victory.

    Oh no, I'm comparing it to all the other free AP ones.

    It's just that it's 100% vs 80% for the 6AP ones? I'm not sure that's worth it.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,430 Chairperson of the Boards

    Totally worth it for Aunt May. Slap Krakoa on 5Emma and bring a +2 R/Y and you are winning on the first turn for almost everything except the FU node.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,784 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 22 October 2024, 14:10

    @LavaManLee said:
    Totally worth it for Aunt May. Slap Krakoa on 5Emma and bring a +2 R/Y and you are winning on the first turn for almost everything except the FU node.

    Wouldn't you just bring Arc Reactor on an iron person instead? Iron May can carry it.

    Edit: haha duh -- Iron May and Aunt May can't be on the same team. PvE is pick-3 though, so you could drag War Machine or somebody along to carry Arc Reactor.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,241 Chairperson of the Boards

    Put Arc Reactor on 5* RiRi. I have R5 Krakoa and didn't even think about Emma so will try that.

    I slapped my R3 Leapfrog on Mephisto in his PvP and even at that level it feels a lot like cheating.

    Supports remain broken.

  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,806 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:

    I slapped my R3 Leapfrog on Mephisto in his PvP and even at that level it feels a lot like cheating.

    I adore everyone that puts leapfrog on the centre character. That's not cheating that's easy feeding.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,241 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    I slapped my R3 Leapfrog on Mephisto in his PvP and even at that level it feels a lot like cheating.

    I adore everyone that puts leapfrog on the centre character. That's not cheating that's easy feeding.

    Eh, I never claimed I had any idea what I am doing. Mephisto was the main constant so it seemed easiest and you can't keep swapping it around that much. My other guys had R5s on. So who should it go then?

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 495 Mover and Shaker

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    I slapped my R3 Leapfrog on Mephisto in his PvP and even at that level it feels a lot like cheating.

    I adore everyone that puts leapfrog on the centre character. That's not cheating that's easy feeding.

    So long as the feature is the weak link. Tends to be, but not always. Esp not always in 4* feature pvps. As ascended 3s become more common, there goes 3* features, too.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,784 Chairperson of the Boards

    @JoeHandle said:

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    I slapped my R3 Leapfrog on Mephisto in his PvP and even at that level it feels a lot like cheating.

    I adore everyone that puts leapfrog on the centre character. That's not cheating that's easy feeding.

    So long as the feature is the weak link. Tends to be, but not always. Esp not always in 4* feature pvps. As ascended 3s become more common, there goes 3* features, too.

    I still see TONS of 550/550/loaner (or 672/672/loaner!). I really don't get that.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 495 Mover and Shaker
    edited 28 October 2024, 07:07

    @entrailbucket said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    I slapped my R3 Leapfrog on Mephisto in his PvP and even at that level it feels a lot like cheating.

    I adore everyone that puts leapfrog on the centre character. That's not cheating that's easy feeding.

    So long as the feature is the weak link. Tends to be, but not always. Esp not always in 4* feature pvps. As ascended 3s become more common, there goes 3* features, too.

    I still see TONS of 550/550/loaner (or 672/672/loaner!). I really don't get that.

    People that seriously skipped those lower tiers? :D

    People are lazy?

    Trying to skimp on heals?

    Being 'nice' to their peers by leaving that opening, while scaring off the masses with the big meat bags?

    Meanwhile, in the 2Rider PvP, I am using a 3* copy, weaker than the loaner, because my 3* can carry a support. Choices, choices :D