New Iso-8 Multiplier & Iso-8-Canister items

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  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,629 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:
    But...it is subjective so it is irrelevant what your standard is when we are on a large platform like this! There is no right answer as long as we are not talking about active fraud.

    Of course, it was just meant to be tongue in cheek ;)

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,241 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    But...it is subjective so it is irrelevant what your standard is when we are on a large platform like this! There is no right answer as long as we are not talking about active fraud.

    Of course, it was just meant to be tongue in cheek ;)

    In that case I relevantly like your answer!

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,955 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:
    You can't put a price on enjoyment because it is subjective.

    You can absolutely put a price on what you subjectively enjoy, and I have no problem with it.

    But we have someone in here slapping price tags on other people’s joy, which is what I think a lot of people are reacting to and questioning.

    @Domitronas said:

    "Oh no your canister is about to expire are you sure you want to let all that juicy iso go to waste? Better cough up the $" How people choose this over "pay X amount of $ to get Y amount of ISO" is beyond me.

    The point is you have a choice. It’s not an “either/or”. So you can buy your iso in the traditional way and not have to worry about bricking your phone or anything like that. That option exists for you.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,795 Chairperson of the Boards

    The game's ultimate owners, Digital Bros, have said their plan for 2024 is to leverage existing games for more revenue by offering....more value, etc etc. As they assess the current environment as one that is hard to launch new games into. Also, they had a pretty terrible 2023 financially.

    Anyone interested can google their financials, they are a public company.

    So this whole thing is just another push in that area.

    The game is designed to basically have infinite expansion opportunities. Ascension was a major, major move in that direction as now every character (especially, newly, below the 5 tier) is assessed based on "what if I collected hundreds of covers for them?". A literal impossibility without major spending, but they certainly aren't shy about offering sometimes dozens of them very quickly. Depending on your assessment of/desire for a character, your perceived need for covers is far greater than ever. Case in point: May at one point would have needed 113 covers before you had her maxed for whatever use you could make, now you need 126 to max/min, 226 to max/max her into a 4 and really bump her boost.

    Even the newest 5. Unimaginable before, a bundle chain with 4 1/2 covers total equivalent is up on day 4 of being in game for $80. Not a small amount for most folks, but still far far cheaper than the old days where only a whale or hoarder could collect covers from in game resources (HP or CP).

    This follows the iDoom bundle (which to be fair, they've had chain offers for new 3s and 4s for a while now) with a costume locked in the $40 tier (requiring $80 all in).

    So they are apparently going to ramp up opportunities to spend to overcome choke points, or acquire cool stuff, and be less subtle about tying it to new content. The lower price points are very interesting from a "devaluing the content in relation to cash needed to acquire it" perspective.

    Looking forward to seeing the actual prices for these iso things.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,430 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 6 May 2024, 19:29

    @bluewolf said:
    Even the newest 5. Unimaginable before, a bundle chain with 4 1/2 covers total equivalent is up >on day 4 of being in game for $80.

    Think I missed this one. Which one gave 4.5 covers to a 5? If you mean the one with the 3 bundle chain, that does not give 4.5 covers of the 5*. But there might be another one that I missed.

  • Omegased
    Omegased Posts: 596 Critical Contributor
    edited 6 May 2024, 21:05

    @dianetics said:

    @KGB said:
    If that's your metric there can't be many forms of entertainment you are able to enjoy these days. Any sporting event (attending or playing like say a round of golf), movie, theater, bowling etc is way outside your price range. Even cable TV is going to be close given here in America it's typically 100 a month and you need to watch a minimum of 3.3 hrs a day to get your money worth (you can cord cut but if you buy Netflix etc those cost too and require a fair number of hours to break even when you factor in internet costs).

    KGB

    I don't watch tv, I don't go to or watch movies, and I don't go to concerts. All the music I listen to is from the 70s-90s that I have on cd and ripped to usb drives. So no netflix, cable, bowling, theaters, or all the rest.

    I am in the gym every day, I play guitar every day, play some video games (besides MPQ), and spend time with my wife and dogs. That is aside from the 70 hours a week I put into my business.
    I literally don't have time for the things you listed.

    Bet the gym costs more than a dollar an hour. GOTEM

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,629 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Omegased said:
    Bet the gym costs more than a dollar an hour. GOTEM

    O.o
    I have a gym in my house.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,795 Chairperson of the Boards

    @LavaManLee said:

    @bluewolf said:
    Even the newest 5. Unimaginable before, a bundle chain with 4 1/2 covers total equivalent is up >on day 4 of being in game for $80.

    Think I missed this one. Which one gave 4.5 covers to a 5? If you mean the one with the 3 bundle chain, that does not give 4.5 covers of the 5*. But there might be another one that I missed.

    Right now there’s a Jubix chain.

    Tier 1: 1 cover
    Tier 2: 1 cover plus 250 shards
    Tier 3: 1000 shards

    4 1/2 covers

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,222 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:

    @Omegased said:
    Bet the gym costs more than a dollar an hour. GOTEM

    O.o
    I have a gym in my house.

    Actually a gym membership typically costs $1 a day (30 month) here in the US.

    Home equipment, especially good stuff costs a thousand dollars or more an item (ie 1K+ for an Elliptical and so on) so it takes a lot of use to get it down to 1 / hr (1000 hrs is approximately 3 years at 1 hr a day on just 1 piece of equipment).

    KGB

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,629 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:
    Actually a gym membership typically costs $1 a day (30 month) here in the US.

    Home equipment, especially good stuff costs a thousand dollars or more an item (ie 1K+ for an Elliptical and so on) so it takes a lot of use to get it down to 1 / hr (1000 hrs is approximately 3 years at 1 hr a day on just 1 piece of equipment).

    KGB

    Don't want to take this too far OT. You are on the money. Most gym memberships are about $1 a day not including the initial sign up fees. So if you work out daily its a buck an hour.
    I have a treadmill and free weights. I put my gym in 10 years ago though, so I am way below that value point by now.

  • Omegased
    Omegased Posts: 596 Critical Contributor

    I wanna talk more about a gym. I'm paying $20 a week in Australia and that's considered very cheap.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,410 Chairperson of the Boards

    I too want to talk about Jims! Are we talking only Marvel Jims?

    What about underground Jims?

    Do Jimmys count too?

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker

    Does anyone know when this goes live? I am saving my tokens etc. to use when it has the chance to be double or "canistered". Heh, canisturd.

  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 592 Critical Contributor

    The new ISO-8 multiplier resources are live.

  • Omegased
    Omegased Posts: 596 Critical Contributor

    Price wise it seems reasonable - wonder if we'll get them for playing

  • Dogface
    Dogface Posts: 995 Critical Contributor

    Those canisters make the price for ISO in the shop (even more) ridiculous. Right now there's a canister with 115k ISO for €3.99 while 75k ISO in the shop is €41.99.

  • Lsavage999
    Lsavage999 Posts: 11 Just Dropped In

    Yay, another micrtransaction. If this is the best you can do, maybe it's time to scrap the idea and start listening to the players.

    Seriously...we ask you to review how cost of heroes has gone up versus how rewards have stayed the same since the beginning. Instead, you say pay us more for a pitiful haul of iso.

  • meadowsweet
    meadowsweet Posts: 257 Mover and Shaker

    @Dogface said:
    Those canisters make the price for ISO in the shop (even more) ridiculous. Right now there's a canister with 115k ISO for €3.99 while 75k ISO in the shop is €41.99.

    I know this sounds like crazy talk, but what if instead of spending all that time writing code and creating artwork for Multipliers & Canisters, the devs just... lowered the prices in the existing store until players found them attractive and began buying them?

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,629 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Zarqa said:
    Images are all placeholders:

    Yeah they increased the price of the bottom line deal. :|

    Did we really expect the pricing of this to be any different?

  • Domitronas
    Domitronas Posts: 179 Tile Toppler

    Careful guys don't be too critical or the "don't like it - don't buy it" mob will get you

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