Champions 2.0 - Batch #4 Info

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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Very disappointed that Bagman has the same boring champ rewards as all the other ascended 2s.

  • turbomoose
    turbomoose Posts: 810 Critical Contributor

    @DeNappa said:

    @turbomoose said:
    103 standard tokens and only 2 green venom tokens, that’s ridiculous

    Standard tokens reward 1* tokens roughly 85% of the time. There are now 8 1* characters in tokens with 3 powers each (since Yelena was added back to tokens), so there's a 1 in 24 chance of getting a green cover for him when you pull a 1*. Quick maths, that's roughly 3.5% chance of getting one each token. So, sounds about in the expected ballpark.

    Thanks for this ,

    So think I pulled 5 venom covers in total
    Iron man and Hawkeye I pulled about 20 of each. Didn’t count the other ones but I’d guess the same amount

    I will buy out the store and get them that way, was just disappointing to only get 2 after saving up for a couple of weeks

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,684 Chairperson of the Boards

    @turbomoose said:
    103 standard tokens and only 2 green venom tokens, that’s ridiculous

    Lucky you, my first 100 pulls I didn't get any, then I took a break and started pulling again.

    I'm pretty sure they didn't add his green to the tokens for an hour or two after they did the data push, someone else corroborated they didn't get any in that period either.

  • DeNappa
    DeNappa Posts: 1,398 Chairperson of the Boards

    @turbomoose said:

    @DeNappa said:

    @turbomoose said:
    103 standard tokens and only 2 green venom tokens, that’s ridiculous

    Standard tokens reward 1* tokens roughly 85% of the time. There are now 8 1* characters in tokens with 3 powers each (since Yelena was added back to tokens), so there's a 1 in 24 chance of getting a green cover for him when you pull a 1*. Quick maths, that's roughly 3.5% chance of getting one each token. So, sounds about in the expected ballpark.

    Thanks for this ,

    So think I pulled 5 venom covers in total
    Iron man and Hawkeye I pulled about 20 of each. Didn’t count the other ones but I’d guess the same amount

    I will buy out the store and get them that way, was just disappointing to only get 2 after saving up for a couple of weeks

    Heh, that's just RNG. In 263 pulls just now, my outliers were 18 purple BW covers and 4 blue Spidey covers. 8 green Venom ones though, so enough for a first ascension for him.

  • meadowsweet
    meadowsweet Posts: 272 Mover and Shaker

    @turbomoose said:
    103 standard tokens and only 2 green venom tokens, that’s ridiculous

    Odds of pulling X Green Venom covers from 103 Standard Tokens:
    0 - 2.42%
    1 - 9.17%
    2 - 17.20%
    3 - 21.31%
    4 - 19.60%
    5 - 14.28%
    6 - 8.58%
    7 - 4.38%
    8 - 1.93%
    9 - 0.75%
    10 - 0.26%
    More than 10 - 0.11%

    So 2 Green Venom covers is on the low end, but is the third most-likely outcome (17.2%), only slightly behind the most likely outcome of pulling one more (21.3%). And while you had a 71.2% chance of pulling more than 2 Green covers, you also had an 11.6% chance of pulling even fewer.

  • meadowsweet
    meadowsweet Posts: 272 Mover and Shaker

    @DAZ0273 said:
    I am not a Venom fan but that sound alright, I might consider ascending him now.

    And thank you. 😉

    Is there any reason not to Ascend every 1★? Free rewards and a level 550 character relatively soon (that is boosted 1/8th of the time)? As opposed to selling 1★ covers for 100 Iso-8 each?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,042 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ok I'm finally done ascending pretty much everybody from this batch, and a few stragglers from the last ones. If anybody wants to check stats on someone, I'm in the alliance Clochards.

    I haven't even looked yet, to be honest. I'll have better insight after I play some of these guys!

  • DTrain514
    DTrain514 Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
    edited January 2024

    @GrimSkald said:

    @turbomoose said:
    103 standard tokens and only 2 green venom tokens, that’s ridiculous

    Lucky you, my first 100 pulls I didn't get any, then I took a break and started pulling again.

    I'm pretty sure they didn't add his green to the tokens for an hour or two after they did the data push, someone else corroborated they didn't get any in that period either.

    Pulled 250 before realizing something was wrong with no venom greens:(

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,684 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DTrain514 said:

    @GrimSkald said:

    @turbomoose said:
    103 standard tokens and only 2 green venom tokens, that’s ridiculous

    Lucky you, my first 100 pulls I didn't get any, then I took a break and started pulling again.

    I'm pretty sure they didn't add his green to the tokens for an hour or two after they did the data push, someone else corroborated they didn't get any in that period either.

    Pulled 250 before realizing something was wrong with no venom greens:(

    Well at least we know we're not crazy.... :/

  • MegaBee
    MegaBee Posts: 1,050 Chairperson of the Boards

    @turbomoose said:
    103 standard tokens and only 2 green venom tokens, that’s ridiculous

    I got zero from the same. Had to get them from the vault.

  • Adric1123
    Adric1123 Posts: 26 Just Dropped In

    @meadowsweet said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    I am not a Venom fan but that sound alright, I might consider ascending him now.

    And thank you. 😉

    Is there any reason not to Ascend every 1★? Free rewards and a level 550 character relatively soon (that is boosted 1/8th of the time)? As opposed to selling 1★ covers for 100 Iso-8 each?

    Nope. Even if you just ascend them to 2* and sell when they max out, they'll still bring in 331 Iso and 4.8 HP per cover. A clear improvement on the 100 Iso you get for just selling.

    If you go higher it gets even better, but obviously takes longer to payoff:
    At 3* it's 299 Iso / 5.6 HP per cover.
    4* is 501 Iso / 9.1 HP per cover.
    5* is 464 Iso / 17.15 HP per cover.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,887 Chairperson of the Boards

    Asking for others (mine is not ascendable): Why isn't 3* Goose ascendable yet? The Hunter is, and released after her.

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,030 Chairperson of the Boards

    2 greens in 201 standard pulls. Had bought the vault twice before doing my pulls cuz I wanted Venom ascended first.

    Also, like in the past, the vault stays exactly the same after buyout and reset. Exactly the same.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,372 Chairperson of the Boards

    @St_Bernadus said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Oh Venom has his new power? What does it do?

    Allows him to join the Ascenders.

    I liked it when they defeated Thanos.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,372 Chairperson of the Boards

    @meadowsweet said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    I am not a Venom fan but that sound alright, I might consider ascending him now.

    And thank you. 😉

    Is there any reason not to Ascend every 1★? Free rewards and a level 550 character relatively soon (that is boosted 1/8th of the time)? As opposed to selling 1★ covers for 100 Iso-8 each?

    I will get to them at some point just not a priority right now.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,438 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:
    Asking for others (mine is not ascendable): Why isn't 3* Goose ascendable yet? The Hunter is, and released after her.

    I swear she was ascendable already, as I had maxed her already, but opted to max my dupe first. Now that I check I see she's not, so that is really weird. Either she changed or I have a faulty memory

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,887 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2024

    @rainkingucd said:

    @bluewolf said:
    Asking for others (mine is not ascendable): Why isn't 3* Goose ascendable yet? The Hunter is, and released after her.

    I swear she was ascendable already, as I had maxed her already, but opted to max my dupe first. Now that I check I see she's not, so that is really weird. Either she changed or I have a faulty memory

    Maybe the issue is with 3 goose, 11 black (edit: no!) + Polaris (protect spam) and you’re instakilling fools left and right. Ascend her so she’s more durable and….yeah.

    Edit: was wrong! 7 purple plus 8 black. Still not that hard.

    You basically have to make her a lot worse (instakill being harder) to balance it out as she ascends.

    That said, Multiple Man remains ridiculously easy to instawin with.

  • tonypq
    tonypq Posts: 557 Critical Contributor
    edited January 2024

    @entrailbucket said:
    Ok I'm finally done ascending pretty much everybody from this batch, and a few stragglers from the last ones. If anybody wants to check stats on someone, I'm in the alliance Clochards.

    I haven't even looked yet, to be honest. I'll have better insight after I play some of these guys!

    What's the numbers on 5* Ares ?

    He was always my favorite 2* so I was curious how his ascension turns out.

    Ty!

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    @tonypq said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Ok I'm finally done ascending pretty much everybody from this batch, and a few stragglers from the last ones. If anybody wants to check stats on someone, I'm in the alliance Clochards.

    I haven't even looked yet, to be honest. I'll have better insight after I play some of these guys!

    What's the numbers on 5* Ares ?

    He was always my favorite 2* so I was curious how his ascension turns out.

    Ty!

    Bucket is crazy, but not THAT crazy.
    That's too many covers to get in a day.

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