***** Omega Red (Horseman of Pestilence) *****

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  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 526 Critical Contributor

    That's awesome! I didn't realize apocs stun immunity worked with Thanos, I thought it would be the same as shield tiles don't help against Thanos.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 526 Critical Contributor

    Swap Thanos for knull and you have boosted by apoc damage from knull and OR every turn and another aoe every 3 turns.

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    sambrookjm Posts: 2,166 Chairperson of the Boards

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  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,470 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Pantera236 said:
    That's awesome! I didn't realize apocs stun immunity worked with Thanos, I thought it would be the same as shield tiles don't help against Thanos.

    Yes, I put a Apoc/onslaught/Thano5 in the “favorite teams thread way back when after discovering that. Not only does he stay awake but shared strength will boost court death damage.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,963 Chairperson of the Boards

    ...guys, the Thanos/Apocalypse team is really fast in CL10 PvE, assuming you have the right yellow AP supports.

    I don't play PvE like the top players do, so I can't compare it to their current top teams, but it's faster than just about anything I can run.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,459 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    ...guys, the Thanos/Apocalypse team is really fast in CL10 PvE, assuming you have the right yellow AP supports.

    I don't play PvE like the top players do, so I can't compare it to their current top teams, but it's faster than just about anything I can run.

    Thanks! What level is your OR5?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,963 Chairperson of the Boards

    Mine is championed at lvl451 (thanks, Sabertooth!) but Apocalypse is the key to this. Omega Red is only there to prevent Apocalypse from being stunned, and for the passive, stunproof AoE that Apocalypse can boost.

    Unfortunately, after a brief consultation with some top PvE players, this team is not fast enough to compete. It can't ever win turn 0, and that's basically a requirement to compete now.

    It is still pretty good though!

  • Grizwald
    Grizwald Posts: 130 Tile Toppler

    What about using P5 Emma Frost as a booster for Omega Red? It's less color overlap than with Okoye or Apocalypse but it might not be as much damage.

  • Grizwald
    Grizwald Posts: 130 Tile Toppler

    @entrailbucket said:
    Thanos/Apocalypse/Omega Red is pretty cool.

    Apocalypse can't be stunned in that team, so he boosts Court Death, and Omega Red's passive continues to work while he's stunned, so he doesn't really care about Court Death. Plus Apocalypse will continue to boost the countdown tile damage while everyone else is stunned.

    I just went a looked at these three and the match damage inflation is nuts. Poor Thanos getting left in the dust.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,963 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Grizwald said:
    What about using P5 Emma Frost as a booster for Omega Red? It's less color overlap than with Okoye or Apocalypse but it might not be as much damage.

    Emma's boost is different from the other two because it's percentage based, where the other two add a fixed amount. So in general, Emma is better at boosting high damage stuff and they're better at boosting low damage stuff.

    Omega Red is a bit weird because his passive starts off doing low damage but ends up much higher, so Emma would probably do a good job boosting him by the time his tile ticks a few times.

    The problem there is that the best modern PvE teams win WAY before turn 4, so, like, it's not bad at all, but there's probably better options.

  • MgoBlue51
    MgoBlue51 Posts: 113 Tile Toppler

    I think he looks like a lot of fun. Definitely a PitA during this pve run.

    I'm definitely not a top player in any mode, so excuse my ignorance here... But what teams win on turn 0? Or what teams can consistently win before turn 4? Never experienced anything like that

  • Waddles_Pines
    Waddles_Pines Posts: 1,229 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yeah not really enjoying "Hearts of Omega Red". Hope they change it back for next run.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,963 Chairperson of the Boards

    @MgoBlue51 said:
    I think he looks like a lot of fun. Definitely a PitA during this pve run.

    I'm definitely not a top player in any mode, so excuse my ignorance here... But what teams win on turn 0? Or what teams can consistently win before turn 4? Never experienced anything like that

    It requires 550s (or close) and high-level AP generating supports. The top PvE players don't like telling others about their secrets so it's hard to get too many examples of teams.

    I'm talking here about players competing for 1st place in CL10 -- there are tons and tons of great teams that will be very successful if your goal is lower than that.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yeah that's t1-2 stuff.
    T10 is doable with mortal rosters.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,963 Chairperson of the Boards

    It's just really hard to have these conversations in the current metagame, because objectively Omega Red is really, really good.

    It sounds like I'm saying he's terrible, though, because he can't consistently win fights before the enemy team even gets a turn. It's really just a condemnation of the top tier/broken tier guys that Omega Red can be this good and still not break into that tier.

    Of course, if you're not competing, or if you don't have the broken guys, or if Omega Red is boosted, then none of that matters anyway.

  • St_Bernadus
    St_Bernadus Posts: 640 Critical Contributor

    Sanctum and Peni both need heroes. Not a lot of heroism on that team.

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    Unfortunately, after a brief consultation with some top PvE players, this team is not fast enough to compete. It can't ever win turn 0, and that's basically a requirement to compete now.

    The metagame is effed right up. And boring.

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    @MgoBlue51 said:
    excuse my ignorance here... But what teams win on turn 0?

    To give an example of what is required to put this sort of thing together, 5*Riri plus Iron Man with the Arc reactor support plus a villain with Proxima Midnight support can generally fire Riri's Repulor Charge AoE as soon as battle commences which will deal with low level nodes.

    The same sort of thinking can produce teams that down/send away opponents of a higher level.

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