***** Omega Red (Horseman of Pestilence) *****

CallTheStorm

@entrailbucket said:
Someone posted 550 stats in the other Omega Red thread.

For power, this page just had a typo. It's 450/550 numbers instead of the 166/266.
But for match damages, we still don't have any clue.

Vhailorx

@DrClever said:
Just had a go with 5* Hawkeye as a third to OR+Okoye (ORkoye?) and that was good as was BRB.

At the very least he's a 5* replacement for Gorr in that PvE team a lot of people like.

But he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

entrailbucket

@Vhailorx said:

@DrClever said:
Just had a go with 5* Hawkeye as a third to OR+Okoye (ORkoye?) and that was good as was BRB.

At the very least he's a 5* replacement for Gorr in that PvE team a lot of people like.

But he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

And that's kinda the problem. He feels like an absolutely perfect character to pair with someone else in an A-tier, broken team (he's got a passive AoE, multi hit active, cheap heal)...I just don't think that guy exists right now, and I don't think he's good enough to carry a team by himself unless he's boosted.

Maybe I'm missing someone obvious, dunno.

Punisher5784

@entrailbucket said:

@Vhailorx said:

@DrClever said:
Just had a go with 5* Hawkeye as a third to OR+Okoye (ORkoye?) and that was good as was BRB.

At the very least he's a 5* replacement for Gorr in that PvE team a lot of people like.

But he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

And that's kinda the problem. He feels like an absolutely perfect character to pair with someone else in an A-tier, broken team (he's got a passive AoE, multi hit active, cheap heal)...I just don't think that guy exists right now, and I don't think he's good enough to carry a team by himself unless he's boosted.

Maybe I'm missing someone obvious, dunno.

You think they wanted a 5* Magik issue again? Haha

BriMan2222

@entrailbucket said:

@Vhailorx said:

@DrClever said:
Just had a go with 5* Hawkeye as a third to OR+Okoye (ORkoye?) and that was good as was BRB.

At the very least he's a 5* replacement for Gorr in that PvE team a lot of people like.

But he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

And that's kinda the problem. He feels like an absolutely perfect character to pair with someone else in an A-tier, broken team (he's got a passive AoE, multi hit active, cheap heal)...I just don't think that guy exists right now, and I don't think he's good enough to carry a team by himself unless he's boosted.

Maybe I'm missing someone obvious, dunno.

Hopefully they're planning to release more horse man characters, and hopefully they compliment one another well. Maybe his perfect partner is a yet to be released horseman of death, famine, or war.

Punisher5784

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Vhailorx said:

@DrClever said:
Just had a go with 5* Hawkeye as a third to OR+Okoye (ORkoye?) and that was good as was BRB.

At the very least he's a 5* replacement for Gorr in that PvE team a lot of people like.

But he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

And that's kinda the problem. He feels like an absolutely perfect character to pair with someone else in an A-tier, broken team (he's got a passive AoE, multi hit active, cheap heal)...I just don't think that guy exists right now, and I don't think he's good enough to carry a team by himself unless he's boosted.

Maybe I'm missing someone obvious, dunno.

Hopefully they're planning to release more horse man characters, and hopefully they compliment one another well. Maybe his perfect partner is a yet to be released horseman of death, famine, or war.

I'd believe it if they made a Horseman Affiliation

entrailbucket

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Vhailorx said:

@DrClever said:
Just had a go with 5* Hawkeye as a third to OR+Okoye (ORkoye?) and that was good as was BRB.

At the very least he's a 5* replacement for Gorr in that PvE team a lot of people like.

But he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

And that's kinda the problem. He feels like an absolutely perfect character to pair with someone else in an A-tier, broken team (he's got a passive AoE, multi hit active, cheap heal)...I just don't think that guy exists right now, and I don't think he's good enough to carry a team by himself unless he's boosted.

Maybe I'm missing someone obvious, dunno.

Hopefully they're planning to release more horse man characters, and hopefully they compliment one another well. Maybe his perfect partner is a yet to be released horseman of death, famine, or war.

Maybe. To be clear, I do not think he is bad at all -- he's really good, and especially when boosted, he's going to be VERY good. What I'm saying is that he has the potential to be part of a completely broken, overpowered "meta" team, I just don't think that team exists right now.

jp1

I am pretty excited for this release since he is my #1 pick from my wishlist. I get thematically why the Horseman version needed to be the 5* but, I wish they were switched.

Anyway, I feel he will be a contender for PVP and PVE as he was already making me fall back on BrB and Kitty to control his presence in both nodes. He is problematic to go against because there is nobody fast to take him down with that won’t suffer, at least none I’ve tried. He also feels like a proper 5* which I really appreciate.

Bad

SW is saying hello to him, SC, Mthor and kang do want to give him a welcome gift.
So at least although omega red is pretty good he already has effective counters on pvp.
By the way, it was easy to check and so I did: all the damage suffered becomes permanent .

DrClever

@Vhailorx said:
he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

Yeah, that's the limiter built in to Okoye, and why she's best with passive damage powers that free you up to keep chasing TU matches.

Some sort of red battery would help which is one reason I picked Hawkeye as a third (countdown fortification being the other).

It's definitely a good thing for the game that OR isn't just hyper powerful with no compromises.

Seph1roth5

Woohoo I'm very happy with Omega Red. His powers aren't crazy complicated/long but are good, and it's omega red!

One question though, is the 50% reduction cap on his black power a one time cap? Or can you reduce their damage by 50% and then, with a new countdown tile, reduce it a further 50%?

Falconfreak

Now if we can just get Hobgoblin in the game...

Punisher5784

@Falconfreak said:
Now if we can just get Hobgoblin in the game...

He's coming Halloween

ThaRoadWarrior

@entrailbucket said:

@Vhailorx said:

@DrClever said:
Just had a go with 5* Hawkeye as a third to OR+Okoye (ORkoye?) and that was good as was BRB.

At the very least he's a 5* replacement for Gorr in that PvE team a lot of people like.

But he won't play nice with most people's okoye will he? He will tank at least 1 and maybe even all 3 colors over her depending on level.

And that's kinda the problem. He feels like an absolutely perfect character to pair with someone else in an A-tier, broken team (he's got a passive AoE, multi hit active, cheap heal)...I just don't think that guy exists right now, and I don't think he's good enough to carry a team by himself unless he's boosted.

Maybe I'm missing someone obvious, dunno.

How is he with Apocalypse? As a mutant apocalypse gets stun immune, and OR starts with his CD working regardless.

entrailbucket

Oh I'm sure it's perfectly usable, just feels a bit... inefficient, somehow. Like, you're probably casting Apocalypse red there, so all Omega Red is doing is his passive, and wouldn't you rather have a guy with a similar passive who covers more colors, or who brings something else to the table?

BurntOutGamer

I think he’s a great pick 3 character w: Apoc, but not sure he has an ideal pick 2 character

entrailbucket

@BurntOutGamer said:
I think he’s a great pick 3 character w: Apoc, but not sure he has an ideal pick 2 character

When he's boosted he'll be excellent in pick-2, and I still think there's some team out there for him that'll be a "meta" pick-2 team when unboosted. But until somebody finds it, or they release that character he needs, you're probably right.

Borstock

He could be something of a pill with Wong. Just spit-balling.

MoosePrime

When a Pestilence Countdown tile triggers, enemy characters’ missing health and reduced damage from Pestilence Spores becomes permanent.

I'm unclear on what this means. My first read was "enemy characters’ (missing health and reduced damage) from Pestilence Spores becomes permanent."

I allowed a Pestilence Spores countdown to resolve, and it applied permanent damage to some of my characters. It downed one (1/2 half Thor), but did not apply any permanent damage to him (I suppose this makes sense, as he was downed, so did not need to have permanent damage). My other two characters received permanent damage, but it didn't set their new max health to their current health.

@Bad said:
By the way, it was easy to check and so I did: all the damage suffered becomes permanent .

This comment could mean that the power description should be read as "enemy characters’ (missing health) and (reduced damage from Pestilence Spores) becomes permanent."

It looks to me like it's only the damage from Pestilence Spores that is permanent.

Warbringa

If they ever make Green Goblin an upgrade to match/health, his passive would most likely protect OR countdown most of the time. Maybe enough to even make him useful against MThor.

Btw, I think this character will end up being awesome because of the passive damage reduction (assuming he keep stacking 5% per turn because even max at 50% is no joke). You can't stop it and you either have to take him down asap, which will take several turns or resign yourself to that clock hitting 50% dr. He is more dangerous in pick 3 obviously but I think he may work well in pick 2 as well.

Edit: You can lock the countdown tile but most of those abilities are in the 4* realm, can't think of a 5* off the top of my head that does that.