Unofficial Forum Contest: High Evolutionary

ArchusMonk

Airborne?
Away?
SMBiB’s purple passive reducing strike tile damage 100%? (Perhaps there is a hard number of strike damage that overcomes this)

dianetics

It is roughly 1 million in match damage. I noted it earlier. Basically, it seems like the game cannot resolve ultra high damage.

It is likely the reason 3* can turn over the health barrier and the 5 has a ton of trouble getting over 10 mill

ArchusMonk

So the challenge would be to produce 1 million in strike tile damage? Of course there would need to be an opposing BiB in a puzzle gauntlet node.

entrailbucket

I was thinking about doing "what's the highest value you can get on a strike tile?" as a potential future challenge, but I'm not sure if that one is as fair as this one was. It feels like that would be easier if you had a higher level roster.

KGB

@dianetics said:
It is roughly 1 million in match damage. I noted it earlier. Basically, it seems like the game cannot resolve ultra high damage.

It is likely the reason 3* can turn over the health barrier and the 5 has a ton of trouble getting over 10 mill

I suspect what happens is that 0 damage is not actually allowed because it would lead to an infinite loop.

So when a character is airborne or invisible my guess is they put a divide by 1 million multiplier on it so that it passes the 0 check but is so small that it doesn't show up as 1 damage on the character (and be visible in the game). This is similar to how Deadpool Whales doesn't actually win the game but instead just does a crazy amount of damage (500K or something).

They probably need to adjust the divide by multiplier to 2 billion

KGB

ArchusMonk

@entrailbucket said:
I was thinking about doing "what's the highest value you can get on a strike tile?" as a potential future challenge, but I'm not sure if that one is as fair as this one was. It feels like that would be easier if you had a higher level roster.

I initially thought that big rosters would have an advantage also. However, if 1 million total damage will overcome PG’s damage reduction, then bigger rosters will have bigger base match damage, so theoretically less available damage for strikes to provide before opponents start dying. So low match damage toons (like Moondragon?) could allow for higher strength strike tile creation?

entrailbucket

@ArchusMonk said:

@entrailbucket said:
I was thinking about doing "what's the highest value you can get on a strike tile?" as a potential future challenge, but I'm not sure if that one is as fair as this one was. It feels like that would be easier if you had a higher level roster.

I initially thought that big rosters would have an advantage also. However, if 1 million total damage will overcome PG’s damage reduction, then bigger rosters will have bigger base match damage, so theoretically less available damage for strikes to provide before opponents start dying. So low match damage toons (like Moondragon?) could allow for higher strength strike tile creation?

My thought was that having very high level boosters (like Kitty) would give you a big advantage, but you're right -- we thought a high level Evo would be an advantage and it really wasn't.

Astronautty

@entrailbucket said:
Hahahahaha what!? You can match damage through invisibility? That is wild.

Good job!

Thanks! This was a lot of fun, even before I found this board & discussion. I look forward to putting Airborne & Away to the test.

entrailbucket

@Astronautty said:

@entrailbucket said:
Hahahahaha what!? You can match damage through invisibility? That is wild.

Good job!

Thanks! This was a lot of fun, even before I found this board & discussion. I look forward to putting Airborne & Away to the test.

Wait, you were trying to max out High Evolutionary's health on your own, before you even saw this?

We need this player to stick around the forum! Post more wacky achievements!!!

Astronautty

@entrailbucket said:

@Astronautty said:

@entrailbucket said:
Hahahahaha what!? You can match damage through invisibility? That is wild.

Good job!

Thanks! This was a lot of fun, even before I found this board & discussion. I look forward to putting Airborne & Away to the test.

Wait, you were trying to max out High Evolutionary's health on your own, before you even saw this?

We need this player to stick around the forum! Post more wacky achievements!!!

Yeah, I was inspired by a post on Reddit to see what the max was. It was about a week before Puzzle Gauntlet opened.

I was just generally thinking about it a lot while working through PG, and realized during my 3rd run-through on that node that if I could get rid of IF without downing ProfX, I could farm the boosted yellow tiles "indefinitely". But I didn't have HEvo on that run, and wasn't willing to retreat. Thankfully, the node let me make another try even after I had all 3 rewards.

DAZ0273

@Pantera236 said:

@DAZ0273 said:
That is fantastic! Well done to all who contributed to this thread which has been a fun read - well deserved!

Now...if one of you High Evolutionary experts can get my HighEvo/Elektra team working, that would be just smashing!

That's your problem, it's Electro, not Electra 😂

Pah! Anybody can use a HighEvo/Electro team! Child's play!

D'oh.

fight4thedream

Mod note: Small update regarding the final rewards rollout. We are still waiting for 2 members to reply to the message they should have received in their forum inbox ( @Captain_Trips88 , @Astronautty ). Please reply as soon as possible, as we would like to send out the rewards in one final batch by the end of the week. Thank you.

Astronautty

@fight4thedream said:
Mod note: Small update regarding the final rewards rollout. We are still waiting for 2 members to reply to the message they should have received in their forum inbox ( @Captain_Trips88 , @Astronautty ). Please reply as soon as possible, as we would like to send out the rewards in one final batch by the end of the week. Thank you.

Does this count as a reply? Thank you so much!

entrailbucket

@Astronautty said:

@fight4thedream said:
Mod note: Small update regarding the final rewards rollout. We are still waiting for 2 members to reply to the message they should have received in their forum inbox ( @Captain_Trips88 , @Astronautty ). Please reply as soon as possible, as we would like to send out the rewards in one final batch by the end of the week. Thank you.

Does this count as a reply? Thank you so much!

Check your forum inbox, you should have a message from the mod team. They need to know your in game name.

Astronautty

@entrailbucket said:

@Astronautty said:

@fight4thedream said:
Mod note: Small update regarding the final rewards rollout. We are still waiting for 2 members to reply to the message they should have received in their forum inbox ( @Captain_Trips88 , @Astronautty ). Please reply as soon as possible, as we would like to send out the rewards in one final batch by the end of the week. Thank you.

Does this count as a reply? Thank you so much!

Check your forum inbox, you should have a message from the mod team. They need to know your in game name.

It's the same name, and I think I got the rewards (they said "forum rewards" & included a 5* OR). But I have looked for a forum inbox and must be blind, bc no luck.

entrailbucket

@Astronautty said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Astronautty said:

@fight4thedream said:
Mod note: Small update regarding the final rewards rollout. We are still waiting for 2 members to reply to the message they should have received in their forum inbox ( @Captain_Trips88 , @Astronautty ). Please reply as soon as possible, as we would like to send out the rewards in one final batch by the end of the week. Thank you.

Does this count as a reply? Thank you so much!

Check your forum inbox, you should have a message from the mod team. They need to know your in game name.

It's the same name, and I think I got the rewards (they said "forum rewards" & included a 5* OR). But I have looked for a forum inbox and must be blind, bc no luck.

Yep those were the rewards, you're all set.

fight4thedream

@Astronautty said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Astronautty said:

@fight4thedream said:
Mod note: Small update regarding the final rewards rollout. We are still waiting for 2 members to reply to the message they should have received in their forum inbox ( @Captain_Trips88 , @Astronautty ). Please reply as soon as possible, as we would like to send out the rewards in one final batch by the end of the week. Thank you.

Does this count as a reply? Thank you so much!

Check your forum inbox, you should have a message from the mod team. They need to know your in game name.

It's the same name, and I think I got the rewards (they said "forum rewards" & included a 5* OR). But I have looked for a forum inbox and must be blind, bc no luck.

That's strange. The forum inbox is located next to your forum profile picture on the main tool bar located at the top of the web page. It might be different if you are accessing using a mobile device.

Scofie

If using a mobile device you have to tap your profile picture and click the envelope symbol. 🙂

Astronautty

@KGB said:

@dianetics said:
It is roughly 1 million in match damage. I noted it earlier. Basically, it seems like the game cannot resolve ultra high damage.

It is likely the reason 3* can turn over the health barrier and the 5 has a ton of trouble getting over 10 mill

I suspect what happens is that 0 damage is not actually allowed because it would lead to an infinite loop.

So when a character is airborne or invisible my guess is they put a divide by 1 million multiplier on it so that it passes the 0 check but is so small that it doesn't show up as 1 damage on the character (and be visible in the game). This is similar to how Deadpool Whales doesn't actually win the game but instead just does a crazy amount of damage (500K or something).

They probably need to adjust the divide by multiplier to 2 billion

KGB

This might be part of the damage reduction, but it doesn't sound right to me. If I was doing 0 effective damage for hundreds of matches before I reached the point where I downed ProfX, then suddenly do at least 675 following one use of Hevo's yellow, it seems like some fixed amount is being subtracted, rather than a fixed divisor.

I'm saying that one use of his power is unlikely to have multiplied my damage by well over 675.

WhiteBomber

Stumbled across this since I just happened to be in the neighborhood, 5* Evo also flips to 1 health and no match damage after 2billion. If you want a really fast way to reproduce:

Evo, 5 AuntMay, Heim VS 4 Invisible Woman

Heim blue to cover as much yellow as possible, kill IW 2 partners. Now every match she makes gives you yellow, while Auntie is also making yellow.