Adventures with 5* Wasp.

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  • AXP_isme
    AXP_isme Posts: 809 Critical Contributor
    Apoc would be a good testing ground to actually CtS without a battery. As long as you have someone else tanking so your strongest colour isn't blue then you can take your time building up to calling the swarm. Apoc will keep shrugging off the damage until you clear all the horsemen and time is never really a factor in boss events. 

    I might give it a try. See if I can get a couple of true-healing tanks out front to absorb the damage and then see if I can finish apoc with CtS. Actually, I might just settle for managing to fire CtS. Let's not go overboard.
  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,999 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mr_F said:

    I mean 1AP in such situation really means that it can be done. I called it "done" only because of lacking the space and possibilities for repeated testings. But I WILL try to do them.
    If you lose the championship by one point, you can look at a million little things and say “we could’ve beaten them!”.  Maybe. But that’s not how record books work. It doesn’t matter if you lose by 1 or 100. It counts all the same.  If my goal is to win a title and I come up short by one point, that challenge still remains incomplete. So I get what Pi is saying. 
  • PiMacleod
    PiMacleod Posts: 1,796 Chairperson of the Boards
    Daredevil217 said:
    Mr_F said:

    I mean 1AP in such situation really means that it can be done. I called it "done" only because of lacking the space and possibilities for repeated testings. But I WILL try to do them.
    If you lose the championship by one point, you can look at a million little things and say “we could’ve beaten them!”.  Maybe. But that’s not how record books work. It doesn’t matter if you lose by 1 or 100. It counts all the same.  If my goal is to win a title and I come up short by one point, that challenge still remains incomplete. So I get what Pi is saying. 
    Thanks for the credit, but it was @KGB who pointed it out.  :)
  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2020
    Day 19 Summary.
    Discovery: none
    Surprise: 1st natural classic pull of 5* since like month.
    Note for future: none

    CURRENT STATUS
    Wasp's progress:
    Level 285
    Build: 1/1/0
    Shards: 249

    Ant Man's Progress:
    Level: 274
    Shards: 70

    Call The Swarm Progress:
    Swarms Called today: 0
    Total Swarms Called: 3.
    Challenges Progress:
    Done: Call the Swarm used with one Cover.
    In progress: Call the Swarm used with two Covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers in non wave node.
    Abandoned: Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover. Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover in non wave node. (closest with this two was 4 swarms and 11 blue AP with 1/0/0 build).
    Additional notifications
    Presence in offers: 3 in shards store.


    With Wasp fully sharded and waiting for ISO, Ant Man is now my sharget, sitting with 70 shards. Squirrel Girl i lv 265 with 235 shards which means that I am on full shargetting.
    Also, after some thinking and feedback from you all, I moved semi-done challenges into abandoned section. I agree, they ARE DOABLE but I DID NOT finish them. Let's be honest, especially when I am no longer able to do them with today's pull result.




  • PiMacleod
    PiMacleod Posts: 1,796 Chairperson of the Boards
    I dont think the pic is big enough.  :tongue:
  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2020
    My friend,  naturall pull of shargeted 5* requires a big annoucment.
    I will upload resized version.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,471 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don't mind daily posts; it's very Zen, like watching the grass grow or talking to somebody about their new hobby growing Bansai trees lol.
  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    I don't mind daily posts; it's very Zen, like watching the grass grow or talking to somebody about their new hobby growing Bansai trees lol.

    You spoken "zen" to a Japan lover. I love Japan!
  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2020
    Day 20 Summary.
    Discovery: Yes, that one extra cover in yellow is helpfull.
    Surprise: none
    Note for future: none

    CURRENT STATUS
    Wasp's progress:

    Level 285
    Build: 1/1/0
    Shards: 261

    Ant Man's Progress:

    Level: 274
    Shards: 139

    Squirell Girl's Progress:

    Level: max/0
    Shards: 102


    Call The Swarm Progress:
    Swarms Called today: 0
    Total Swarms Called: 3.

    Challenges Progress:
    Done: Call the Swarm used with one Cover.
    In progress: Call the Swarm used with two Covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers in non wave node.
    Abandoned: Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover. Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover in non wave node. (closest with this two was 4 swarms and 11 blue AP with 1/0/0 build).
    Additional notifications
    Presence in offers: 3 in shards store.

    I tried to do the challenges in DDQ Big Enchilada and in Alliance Event with Apoc. I have failed because I had no health packs to spare for BE and because Apoc's damage is too high. Even with one more cover. Maybe if it was black which heals me I could do more. I will try tommorrow as my Alliance has already done the event. Any ideas for teammates? I need someone beside Apoc or Prof X to keep her alive. No batteries please.

    Anyway, I maxed out Squirell Girl today. So now I have to re-recruit her.
  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2020
    Day 21 Summary.
    Discovery: none
    Surprise: none
    Note for future: none

    CURRENT STATUS
    Wasp's progress:

    Level 285
    Build: 1/1/0
    Shards: 282

    Ant Man's Progress:
    Level: 274
    Shards: 320

    Squirell Girl's Progress:
    Level: max/40, 2 covers
    Shards: 149


    Call The Swarm Progress:
    Swarms Called today: 0
    Total Swarms Called: 3.

    Challenges Progress:
    Done: Call the Swarm used with one Cover.
    In progress: Call the Swarm used with two Covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers in non wave node.
    Abandoned: Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover. Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover in non wave node. (closest with this two was 4 swarms and 11 blue AP with 1/0/0 build).

    Additional notifications
    Presence in offers: 3 in shards store.

    Well... because I was chasing the Magneto PVP (for X-23 shards from placement - I like her very much) I was not at full healthpack for Big Enchilada. I was very close, although, to do some challenges there. My team to go is Kamala (maxed)/Wasp/Coulson (188, 3/5/5) and it goes well. Because I go for full progression in PVE and I already did all the clears I may be able to do some tries in BE or PVE for challenges. But that also means I will have less shards from tommorrow (less pulls in LT/Classics)

    Also I got the Shards for re-recruit SG and and bonus cover (300 shards) for her. Things going well, especially since today's resupply was 10-pack, I already have ~2400 pts in PVP (so 1600 for 10 mighties = 260 SG shards and 30 Ant Man). Tommorrow is also DDQ restart so another LT (shards and potential Ant Man Cover). Not to mention that, if I am correct, Ant Man cover and shards will be in 4th PVP after current one (that is Cap America's). So... If I can squizee there it would be free cover and 925 shards on top. At worst, 825.

    Overall: steady progress. Current plan is to champion Domino and Taskmaster (my closest fully covered 4*) and then Polaris (because she will be featured few more times and we can grab some covers in shards in PVP) and then Kate Bishop (because of her blue - I will need her for next Apoc Alliance event) and then Coulson. Lost of ISO, but eventually I will keep up.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Woah! Truth is it took me so much work searching his powers at level 450...

    Sting Operation - 6 bluetilepng AP
    The Wasp uses her influence to take the enemy down from within and expose their plans. Steals 2 random colored AP from the enemy and create a 3-turn Countdown tile that creates 1 Blue Locked Swarm tile(s).
    (PASSIVE) When there are at least 4 Swarm tiles on the board (max 12), all of Wasp's powers become Call the Swarm.
    • Level 2: Steals 3 random...
    • Level 3: ...and create a 2-turn Countdown tile...
    • Level 4: ...that creates 2 Blue Locked...
    • Level 5: Steals 4 random...
    Shrink Tactics - 10 yellowtilepng AP
    Taking perfect aim, Wasp shoots a Pym disc to shrink her teammate so they can infiltrade the enemy base. Turns a selected ally Invisible for 2 turn(s) and places 1 Yellow Locked Swarm tile(s).
    (PASSIVE) When there are at least 4 Swarm tiles on the board (max 12), all of Wasp's powers become Call the Swarm.
    • Level 2: ...places 2 Yellow Locked Swarm tile(s).
    • Level 3: ...ally Invisible for 3 turn(s) and...
    • Level 4: ...places 3 Yellow Locked Swarm tile(s).
    • Level 5: ...ally Invisible for 4 turn(s) and...
    Pain Index - 10 blacktilepng AP
    Wasp blasts her enemy to send them reeling. Steal a burst of 3087 health from the target, and an additional 1235 health per Swarm tile on the board.
    (PASSIVE) When the Wasp is healed for 1383 or more health, place 1 Black Locked Swarm tile(s). When there are at least 4 Swarm tiles on the board (max 12), all of Wasp's powers become Call the Swarm.
    • Level 2: ...burst of 3704 health...
    • Level 3: ...burst of 4322 health..
    • Level 4: ...place 2 Black Locked...
    • Level 5: ...burst of 5557 health..
    Call the Swarm - 12 bluetilepng / yellowtilepng / blacktilepng AP
    With the might of the swarm at her will, Wasp deals 6915 damage and grows her Swarm tiles, destroying them and three tiles around them.

    Not entrying in her awesome outclassed design.

    For calling the swarm you need blue at level 4. That way for 6 blue AP you will have 4 blue locked swarm tiles in 4 turns. That would be the fastest way to having call the swarm enabled.
    Although you need the other powers for having more chances to fire call the swarm.
    And if you can protect those swarm tiles, the better.
    The turns I calculate for calling the swarm, at blue level 4 at the most optimal matches, without batteries nor criticals should be 6.
    But that is a really low chance. More like it should be 10 or 12.

    For dealing 7000 damage. By the fact they could update her and generously.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,471 Chairperson of the Boards
    She was a joke when newly launched, this was less outdated design and more a nearly deliberate dud lol.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,471 Chairperson of the Boards
    So has your goal of transitioning with Wa5p changed at all now that you've looked at her 450 powerset?

  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2020
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    So has your goal of transitioning with Wa5p changed at all now that you've looked at her 450 powerset?


    There is a proverb in my country. And I will use it here with direct translation. Are you mocking or asking for directions?

    I saw them a long time ago. And yes, I still keep my decision up. Wasp will be my 1st 5* champion. I never stated that She will be the only 5* I willachieve that day.

    Nope, I have Storm 4/2/4 soft capped 375 and I already see how that changed my opponents to worse. I am not that much idiot. The plan is: Wasp will be my 5* champion. Right afther that, whithin minutes, she will bee (pun intented) followed by few others. Who? It all depends on how the rng will go, but Storm, Yelena and Black Widow an the very least. Period.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mr_F said:

    There is a proverb in my country. And I will use it here with direct translation. Are you mocking or asking for directions?


    Interesting proverb. And mentioned on this post, precisely.
    My calculation for calling the swarm with 1 blue and a yellow jumps to 14 turns minimum, not counting if one swarm is destroyed( really easy) it will be 3 turns more.
    As a fellow forumer and as an advanced player, my advice for chasing classics should be restricted to only those 3 of the last fan store. Perhaps could be thor or thanos too. Actually its better to wait for the next damage multiplier on LL.
    Do not waste precious resources on a 5* whose 4* version is far better.
    Now you are free to listen to wise advices or continue on your journey.

  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2020
    Day 22 Summary.
    Discovery: Konran, Don and Hood are annoying when you just want them to be alive long enough.
    Surprise: none
    Note for future: Be carefull. I had 4 swarms and 5 yellow. Because I accidently has fired Coulson yellow's. Also keep yellow. Yellow power is insta Swarm, so it can save you some time and potential irritation.

    CURRENT STATUS
    Wasp's progress:

    Level 285
    Build: 1/1/0
    Shards: 285

    Ant Man's Progress:
    Level: 274
    Shards: 344

    Squirell Girl's Progress:
    Level: max/40, 3 covers
    Shards: 290


    Call The Swarm Progress:
    Swarms Called today: 1
    Total Swarms Called: 4.

    Challenges Progress:
    Done: Call the Swarm used with one Cover. Call the Swarm used with two Covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers in non wave node.
    In progress: Abandoned: Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover. Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover in non wave node. (closest with this two was 4 swarms and 11 blue AP with 1/0/0 build).

    Additional notifications
    Presence in offers: 4 in shards store.

    Squirell Girl in DDQ! So you know, grabbed "free" cover.

    Also I had time to do some Swarm Calling. Did it once, could two (if I did not accidently has fired Coulson yellow). All classic 3 challenges done at once. In a AP steal enviroment. Man, it was not that easy but still I did it! That dead champion is Thing. I had to add some protect tiles to keep her alive as all my healers were dead or to to much damage or are to low in levels or has active heal on yellow. I need more challenges. Any ideas?


    Fun Note:
    Fastest Call The Swarm I can do currently... 1 TURN! IF you have "Wasp Gauntlets" support you have chances to create free swarm tile with match 5+. If you grab 4 of those in one turn with 3 colors being blue or yellow...

    Realistic, Take IM40. Have some luck.
    1st turn get horizotal/vertical match 5 in yellow in 1st turn that granted one more yellow and free swarm tile from support (been there done there). Fire IM40 yellow. Match another 3 yellow.
    2nd turn match 3 yellow (total 6)
    3rd turn 12 blue gain from IM40, fire twice blue. Match  3 yellow (total 9)
    4rd turn match 3 yellow (total 12)
    5th  2 swarm created (total 3) Fire IM40 yellow. 6 yellow left.
    6th match 3 yellow (total 9)
    7th 12 blu gain from IM40. match 3 yellow (total 12).
    8th Fire yellow. FIre Call the swarm.

    If 3rd character is AP battery like Coulson it can be even faster.
  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    Day 23 Summary.
    Discovery: none
    Surprise: none
    Note for future: none

    CURRENT STATUS
    Wasp's progress:

    Level 285
    Build: 1/1/0
    Shards: 291

    Ant Man's Progress:
    Level: 275
    Shards: 10+ 1 lv up!

    Squirell Girl's Progress:
    Level: max/40, 4 covers
    Shards: 296


    Call The Swarm Progress:
    Swarms Called today: 1
    Total Swarms Called: 5.
    Max Swarm tiles on board: 5.

    Challenges Progress:
    Done: Call the Swarm used with one Cover. Call the Swarm used with two Covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers in non wave node.
    In progress:
    Abandoned: Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover. Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover in non wave node. (closest with this two was 4 swarms and 11 blue AP with 1/0/0 build).

    Additional notifications
    Presence in offers: 4 in shards store.

    Grabbed another Swarm Called. This time with 5 Swarm tiles! Does it counts as a challenge? Also Ant Man cover up through shards!

  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 744 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2020
    Day 24 Summary.
    Discovery: none
    Surprise: none
    Note for future: none

    CURRENT STATUS
    Wasp's progress:

    Level 285
    Build: 1/1/0
    Shards: 297

    Ant Man's Progress:
    Level: 275
    Shards: 64

    Squirell Girl's Progress:
    Level: max/40, 6 covers
    Shards: 215


    Call The Swarm Progress:
    Swarms Called today: 1
    Total Swarms Called: 6.
    Max Swarm tiles on board: 7.

    Challenges Progress:
    Done:
    1. Call the Swarm used with one Cover
    2. Call the Swarm used with two Covers
    3. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers
    4. Call the Swarm used without batteries with two covers in non wave node.
    In progress:
    1. Get 12 Swarm Tiles (max possible)
    Abandoned:
    1. Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover
    2. Call the Swarm used without batteries with one cover in non wave node. (closest with this two was 4 swarms and 11 blue AP with 1/0/0 build).

    Additional notifications
    Presence in offers: 5 in shards store.

    Grabbed another Swarm Called. This time with 7 (!) Swarm tiles! Hmm... it is a good challenge to reach 12! I need... not possible yet. Even if I grab 30 blue and 30 yellow, I can fire 5 blue and 3 yellows to get 8 swarm tiles. I would have to get 4 from support (i.e. at least 5 times do match5!)


  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,287 Chairperson of the Boards
    @Mr_F

    Actually you might be able to reach 12 with the right partner. Say Star Lord who reduces the cost of firing powers so that you can fire more Blues. You may have other partners who can reduce cost (I didn't look that closely) like Blonde Widow.

    KGB
  • AXP_isme
    AXP_isme Posts: 809 Critical Contributor
    Headed to the realms of fancy here but... can you fortify the swarm tiles before CtS so that they remain on the board? I'm not sure it helps particularly but it might allow you to fire it twice in a row with 24AP.

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