***** Wolverine (Samurai Daken) *****

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  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2020
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    In the Twitch livestream, Marvel did mention wanting MPQ to create new characters, like what they did with Peggy Carter. I didn't expect it to be that fast.
    Well its a good way to save costs. And if they can sell it later is a round business. Maybe they can trade Tms in the end. 
    DAZ0273 said:

    The Punisher (2020) 5* Rarity

    Frank Castle became The Punisher when his family were senselessly murdered. He vowed to hunt down criminals and clean up the streets. But then 2020 arrived and Frank was put in Lockdown. Now Frank is going stir crazy, has binged on donuts and is getting pretty fed up with those Friends re-runs.





    You started really fast the race for gaining trademarks and a place on the designing team  :o
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,757 Chairperson of the Boards
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    So after playing Daken in about 5 matches against 2* Wolvie here are my impressions of his powers.  

    Red best ability is removing tiles.  It does ok damage but not great damage.  His strike tiles will be useful if you can get 4 out.  If you do not get many strike tiles out you get little benifit and if facing Kitty she will remove them quickly.

    black I was not able to get a repeater tile to actually do damage as it was difficult to get 2* wolvie to get 3 strike tiles out.  This power also works against his red.  His red removes special tiles and his black needs those special tiles to be useful.  Even for a passives this power seems bad.

    green overall good active ability.  It does good damage prevents healing and future green basically cost less.  I did not get him to heal so again feeling like a bad passive.

    lastly animations.  Overall I like them.  They match my perspective of a samurai personality.  They are not IHulk coming back from the dead cool but are very well done.  I do feel his red and green animations should be reversed.  His green should be using the Muramasa Blade since the Blade cuts off the healing factor and his green animations is currently using his claws.  Also putting out stoke tiles with Wolverine and Daken has always been associated with their claws and his red animation is with the Muramasa Blade.  It is a small thing but I do feel those animations should be switched

    overall interesting powers looking to punish and counter special tiles, unfortunately I think he would be better against sterile tiles than protect tiles. In a BRB/Kitty  match if that black repeater is hitting BRB will just put out more protect tiles and Kitty gets those protect tiles to defend 6k damage fairly easily.  Against other special tiles this damage can add up but again is working counter to his red.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2020
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    His black passive power is really cool. It reminds me of Gouki/Akuma's special from Street Fighter.

    I think his red power is bugged. It's destroying those strike tiles, instead of removing them. 
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
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    It seems his repeaters only work for granting him one atack per turn, but against Wolverine 2* is not posible to verify.
    They could sinergy with another char who benefit of repeaters.
    His red is good for feeding himself with strike tiles.
    His green can be useful when fighting super healing medusa scl10.
    Finally I think ironically although having an anti meta power, actually he can shine in meta gritty or britty teams.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2020
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    It's one attack per repeater. I'm eager to spam his repeaters with Domino.  B)
  • Waddles_Pines
    Waddles_Pines Posts: 1,192 Chairperson of the Boards
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    wymtime said:
    black I was not able to get a repeater tile to actually do damage as it was difficult to get 2* wolvie to get 3 strike tiles out.  This power also works against his red.  His red removes special tiles and his black needs those special tiles to be useful.  Even for a passives this power seems bad.

    Wolvie has to get 2 strikes out.  Since your a/s/p tiles count, Daken's red would turn 2 Wolvie's strikes into 4 for you.  

    His green passive, does anyone know if there's an animation?  Couldn't get him under 25% health.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
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    There isn't any animation for his healing. There'll be a pop-up text showing "Unkillable Ronin". 
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,757 Chairperson of the Boards
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    wymtime said:
    black I was not able to get a repeater tile to actually do damage as it was difficult to get 2* wolvie to get 3 strike tiles out.  This power also works against his red.  His red removes special tiles and his black needs those special tiles to be useful.  Even for a passives this power seems bad.

    Wolvie has to get 2 strikes out.  Since your a/s/p tiles count, Daken's red would turn 2 Wolvie's strikes into 4 for you.  

    His green passive, does anyone know if there's an animation?  Couldn't get him under 25% health.
    I did finally get the repeater to fire but it took work to do it.  I actually let Wolvie get red so when he fire green there were enough strike tiles.  It might be easier in PVE with more special tile creators for this power to fire.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 9,618 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Is it just me or was day 2 sort of traumatic? I just murdered my Marvel Dad and yet my affiliation is "Heroic". I am talking to my actual Dad in a family zoom a bit later, I hope he doesn't find out what I did...
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 9,618 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Bad said:


    In the Twitch livestream, Marvel did mention wanting MPQ to create new characters, like what they did with Peggy Carter. I didn't expect it to be that fast.
    Well its a good way to save costs. And if they can sell it later is a round business. Maybe they can trade Tms in the end. 
    DAZ0273 said:

    The Punisher (2020) 5* Rarity

    Frank Castle became The Punisher when his family were senselessly murdered. He vowed to hunt down criminals and clean up the streets. But then 2020 arrived and Frank was put in Lockdown. Now Frank is going stir crazy, has binged on donuts and is getting pretty fed up with those Friends re-runs.





    You started really fast the race for gaining trademarks and a place on the designing team  :o
    And I haven't even hit them with my next idea yet - Sabretooth ( Beauty Salon)
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,162 Chairperson of the Boards
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    I've never read a comic with Daken in it in my life, is he a character people want multiple variants of?

    As a bucket of game mechanics, this character seems fine so far. I'll be curious to see him against a non-2* opponent, and on a team though.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 9,618 Chairperson of the Boards
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    I've never read a comic with Daken in it in my life, is he a character people want multiple variants of?

    As a bucket of game mechanics, this character seems fine so far. I'll be curious to see him against a non-2* opponent, and on a team though.
    My experience was via Rick Rememder's Uncanny X-Force and I found not one redeeming feature about him (Well he is a bad guy I guess ) - most of it was some level of torture porn anyway but Daken is not a bad guy I wanted to see more of. Not sure there is any level of depth to him. 
  • Waddles_Pines
    Waddles_Pines Posts: 1,192 Chairperson of the Boards
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    wymtime said:
    wymtime said:
    black I was not able to get a repeater tile to actually do damage as it was difficult to get 2* wolvie to get 3 strike tiles out.  This power also works against his red.  His red removes special tiles and his black needs those special tiles to be useful.  Even for a passives this power seems bad.

    Wolvie has to get 2 strikes out.  Since your a/s/p tiles count, Daken's red would turn 2 Wolvie's strikes into 4 for you.  

    His green passive, does anyone know if there's an animation?  Couldn't get him under 25% health.
    I did finally get the repeater to fire but it took work to do it.  I actually let Wolvie get red so when he fire green there were enough strike tiles.  It might be easier in PVE with more special tile creators for this power to fire.
    It's also your own a/s/p, so BRB, Grocket, Carnage(s), etc. would be a nightmare since those teammates also don't need black.  Or Okoye/Clagger... he seems pretty solid, not meta, but solid...
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,294 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Isay_Isay said:
    So we’ll now have as many 5* as we do 3* and no changes to ISO rewards as a whole?

    coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool
    With the next 5 (presumably 4 weeks away) we will soon have more 5s than 4s......

    Mugatu Crazy Pills - I feel like Im taking  taking crazy pills
  • Xception81
    Xception81 Posts: 409 Mover and Shaker
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    bluewolf said:
    Isay_Isay said:
    So we’ll now have as many 5* as we do 3* and no changes to ISO rewards as a whole?

    coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool
    With the next 5 (presumably 4 weeks away) we will soon have more 5s than 4s......

    Mugatu Crazy Pills - I feel like Im taking  taking crazy pills
    Uhhmm, how? Or are you being sarcastic? Assuming we’re in the new normal of a 4/5/4/5 release schedule, they’ll both increase evenly so we’ll still have more 4s than 5s. 
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,294 Chairperson of the Boards
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    I would imagine in most games you have more mid-tier characters than top tier ones. That’s all. 

    I realize that the game has a different approach but at least it should be clear to newer players that they will never have a complete 5* roster (all champed) when there are so many. 

  • gravel
    gravel Posts: 585 Critical Contributor
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    bluewolf said:
    Isay_Isay said:
    So we’ll now have as many 5* as we do 3* and no changes to ISO rewards as a whole?

    coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool
    With the next 5 (presumably 4 weeks away) we will soon have more 5s than 4s......

    Mugatu Crazy Pills - I feel like Im taking  taking crazy pills
    Uhhmm, how? Or are you being sarcastic? Assuming we’re in the new normal of a 4/5/4/5 release schedule, they’ll both increase evenly so we’ll still have more 4s than 5s. 
    I think bluewolf meant more 5*s than 3*s.
  • marvel075
    marvel075 Posts: 123 Tile Toppler
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    so it seems his repeater tiles EACH deal the specified amount of damage, and his green passive doesn't trigger instantly ethier. His red is weird tho, cause it says it removes enemy A,S,P tiles, but he destroys them instead of just simply removing the tiles from board.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 9,618 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Maybe he just hasn't had the chance to shine yet but I am not really that bothered with him.