I Spy rewards - new PVP design? Horrible.

Vins2

Was anybody even logging less play time with the 1000 pt CP threshold because I certainly wasn't.  It took me <25 wins to get to 1200 before the change, it takes me 25 wins to get to 1000 now, and I even had to adjust my climb time to make it easier so that 25 wins roughly got me 1000.  In the beginning of the change it took me 35-40 wins. 

People will start shielding at 1100s again, but I don't expect that will alleviate the climb at all.  I've already told my alliance I will be leaving soon, and letting them down was honestly one of the main things that kept me from stepping off a long time ago.  

Wonko33

in PVE too, you don't get the token on the first time you clear a wave anymore, it's on the 3rd one 

Vhailorx

Vins2 said:

Was anybody even logging less play time with the 1000 pt CP threshold because I certainly wasn't.  It took me <25 wins to get to 1200 before the change, it takes me 25 wins to get to 1000 now, and I even had to adjust my climb time to make it easier so that 25 wins roughly got me 1000.  In the beginning of the change it took me 35-40 wins. 

People will start shielding at 1100s again, but I don't expect that will alleviate the climb at all.  I've already told my alliance I will be leaving soon, and letting them down was honestly one of the main things that kept me from stepping off a long time ago.  

It's almost like the whole alliance system is designed to take advantage of human social behaviour and keep people grinding away for fear of letting their alliance mates down. . .

Loosie

Wonko33 said:

in PVE too, you don't get the token on the first time you clear a wave anymore, it's on the 3rd one 

As well the token at 300 and 850 points in the PvP is not the special token, just a regular heroic. That seems really dirty especially when it’s a 5* release store. (As small a chance as you have to get the 5* from those tokens)

bluewolf

Loosie said:

Wonko33 said:

in PVE too, you don't get the token on the first time you clear a wave anymore, it's on the 3rd one 

As well the token at 300 and 850 points in the PvP is not the special token, just a regular heroic. That seems really dirty especially when it’s a 5* release store. (As small a chance as you have to get the 5* from those tokens)

The next pvp will give tokens to Yelena’s HP release store. I guess they weren’t sure what to do with this special pvp and didn’t want to create some special store for it?

turtlerad17

You know what really sucks? In the previous PVP you got the 18 command points at 50 wins now it's at 75. Not many of us have enough time to reach that many wins, especially players with lower level rosters. This is a slap in the face from MPQ.

Mayo

1 step forward, 2 steps back, all in the name of profit and wasting the users real life time. This game being play to avance should at least reduce player stress. Time to lower the game rating again it seems. 

Daredevil217

Demiurge_[bagman] said: 

Daredevil217:  "There is a long history of things being removed to be “re-evaluated” but never get touched on again. ...then the communication shut down and nothing changed. So the perception real or not is that we’re not being listened to."   I understand the sentiment. We want to do better, we also understand there's a lot of ground to make up. 

https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/81795/update-to-s-h-i-e-l-d-training/p1

I really really wanted to believe them. I wanted to believe that they were going to “turn it around” with regards to communication and do better. In retrospect, this was clearly PR spin to temper the flames of SHIELD training being removed. I guess they died down enough that they figured they could slip in another way to try and screw the player base over. 

There is zero trust from me right now. 

Michael1957

Jexy said:

Why don't those people ever answer us? Remember to review this game on the app stores to reflect how the developers treat players.

  It’s not that we are lazy, it’s just  that we don’t care . 

Jexy

They don’t want to do better, they just want our money, without doing even the minimum to earn it. We need to hit them on the app stores. 

Nibby

Yeah, this really sucks. Please revert it to the previous reward scheme. 

The rockett

I guess my biggest issue is this.  As a person that is in sales, when my customers have issues, I try and resolve them or at least communicate to them even if it is a difficult conversation.  If I know if an issue that they will not like, usually around pricing, then I talk to them before hand so they know what is happening and why.  

D3/Demi made changes to the rewards structure that the player base noticed,  whether this is on purpose or a mistake, and didn’t come here to THEIR official forums to answer this concerning question. The player base did came to the only place we have where they will answer questions anymore, since they have all but banned (It seems that way at least) from Discord since shardgate, and they still cannot come here to answer this question.  

I just do not understand how this can keep up like this without an major overhaul on how this communication is coming from D3/Demi.  All we want to to be talked to and understand why this is done BEFORE HAND.  Is this truly too much to ask for?  

bluewolf

@The rockett

I agree 100%. It’s so disappointing. 

JiraiyaSannin

You took away resources little by little everywhere you could, now you pull this without telling everyone.(I wonder of the other things they do without telling us.) 

jamesh

It also would have been nice if the event had Yelena tokens in the progression reward table: it was just heroic tokens rather than event tokens this time around.

bluewolf

Well, the next PVP - [REDACTED] - is up with the same rewards structure, back to the "good old days" of 1200/75 wins.

I guess that settles the "was it a mistake?" question that some might have had.

And as I pointed out elsewhere......masterful planning boosting Bishop and doing this "improvement" at the same time. 

Why don't you pour lemon juice on my paper cut while you're at it?

CT1888

bluewolf said:

Well, the next PVP - [REDACTED] - is up with the same rewards structure, back to the "good old days" of 1200/75 wins.

I guess that settles the "was it a mistake?" question that some might have had.

And as I pointed out elsewhere......masterful planning boosting Bishop and doing this "improvement" at the same time. 

Why don't you pour lemon juice on my paper cut while you're at it?

Dunno, climbing and hopping against these boosted Bishop teams was what took me to 1200. With his trigger threshold way higher, I gather a bunch of ap with Thor, stunned him. With 4* widows black then nuked the team from orbit thanks to Okoye's damage boost. 

Bad

Those last months I I could grind and I won all pvp cps. That helped me to improve some of my 5* and I need 2 covers of sinister to champ him. 
Right now being the sistem reverted I will not try to champ anyone anymore. I dont have the time for playing 75 games. And certainly I will not play only on the final hour because not having kitty champed is imposible to win 1200 points.
So I will do like I did before. Stopping at 450 or 500, just the 10 cps.
And stopping playing a lot of hours. Something says me I will not be the only one.
And waiting for lighting round if I longed for some pvp battling.
And another time a pvp of 2 days will only be played by some whales on the final hour.

Pongie

Being a 900 and shield out player, I honestly didn’t even noticed the change. I know the cp at 1000 was nice but for the most time it was there, I think I could count on one hand where I was bothered enough to reach it. 

MrPlow

Bad said:

And certainly I will not play only on the final hour because not having kitty champed is imposible to win 1200 points.

You need more than a champed Kitty to consistently get to 1200.  Not impossible but very hard.  You really need to be firmly in 5* land.   1000 points is doable with Grocket.  This is from my experience with a champed Kitty the last few months always hitting 1000 in around 35 wins.  Now I'm missing out on a lot of CP.