Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse

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  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    Not a huge update, but I can see that last Archangel on my upcoming shield rewards in-game now so it’ll be here in 5 days.
  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 610 Critical Contributor
    2nd update from me in this thread.  I have 3 unchamped old 5*s, which when done I feel like is "endgame!"

    Doc Ock has been "close" for a while with a path from 3* Ock > 4* Carnage.  I am now 2 Carnage covers away from him being done.

    Yesterday I saw that Samurai Wolverine is getting a cover from resupply in about 100 days for me.  He's currently marked as my 5* fave with 10 covers & 240 shards.  With 600 shards coming in 2x 4* champs from milestones, the finish line is newly in sight for him.  

    So that leaves just lowly Havok - 9 covers with no feeder.  In theory there is 3 more covers in milestones, but 1 of those is 100x 4* champs away!!  Waiting for some magic to get him done I guess!
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    Archangel is champed. Now I just need 2.5 C4rnage covers to finish Doc Ock, half a BSSM that I hear will be in progression in November, and 19 N4tashas to be caught up through Kamala. I wonder if I’ll be able to get there before January?
  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,378 Chairperson of the Boards
    That’s it then? Three 5* left?
  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 610 Critical Contributor
    A long, many year journey, finished on the weekend when Doc Ock was champed from Carnage after PVP rewards came out.  

    That leaves just S Daken at 11.5 covers and Havok at 9 covers to champ.  

    With neither of those having a feeder I'm currently lost as to who to favorite at the 3* & 4* level.  Weird place to be.  I've set my 3* as Patch just cos, and I'm working on any dupe 4* close to re-champ.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    well, 5*s never stop never stopping, that's just it for the truly "vintage" classics. I've been spending all my CP into Classic since champing Kamala, so I'm pretty light going into this batch once she drops out. but yeah, after that, it'll just be keeping pace with latest moving forward. I guess there is no way to truly predict what the release pace is going to look like moving forward under this new dev regime. I don't think they've stabilized into a new normal yet, though it does seem there is an effort to release 4* to 5* feeders regularly moving forward - so it won't be as terrible should somebody fall out of latest unchamped I hope in future. 

    Current crop of Latest are:
    Kamala: champed, 454 with 375 shards (i pulled a bit when Chasm hit)
    Jane Foster: 2/3/3 with 1065 shards
    Chasm: 1/3/1 with 660 shards (current 5* fav since Jane seemed decently far along)

    NEW:
    She-Hulk: 0/0/0 with 575 shards; I'll burn one to roster her if I haven't landed one by the time she is required.

    Not sure if anyone cares, but since gamependium is pretty dead, i can list my roster by level so you can see where pulling like this has gotten me:
    DAY: 2410

    5*
    Professor X: 471 (longest stint in Latest to date I believe)
    Beta Ray Bill: 462
    Iceman: 462
    Heimdall: 461
    Sinister: 461
    Storm: 461
    Apocalypse: 460
    Ghost Rider: 460 (my first 5* champ)
    Yellowjacket: 460
    Magneto: 459
    Elektra: 458
    Okoye: 458
    Rescue: 458
    Yelena: 458
    Doom: 457 (my second 5* champ)
    Wanda: 457
    Thanos: 457
    Thor: 457
    Cable: 456
    IW Cap: 456
    Deadpool: 456
    Electro: 456
    Hawkeye: 456
    Jessica Jones: 456
    Killmonger: 456
    Kingpin: 456
    Knull: 456
    Old Man Logan: 456
    Captain Marvel: 455
    Carnage: 455
    iHulk: 455
    Old Man Daken: 455
    Bolt: 454
    Colossus: 454
    Hela: 454
    Kamala: 454
    Kitty: 454
    Star Lord: 454
    Warlock: 453
    Cyclops: 453
    Strange: 453
    Gambit: 453
    Onslaught: 453
    Banner: 453
    FA Cap: 452
    Daredevil: 452
    Goblin: 452
    Odin: 452
    Shang-Chi: 452
    Silver Surfer: 452
    Brand: 451
    Panther: 451
    Crystal: 451
    Gamora: 451
    Gargantos: 451
    havok: 451
    Iron Man XLVI: 451
    Jean Grey: 451
    Sersi: 451
    Ultron: 451
    Archangel: 450
    Big Wheel: 450
    Loki: 450
    Moon Knight: 450
    Ronan: 450
    Peter Parker: 450
    Wasp: 450
    Widow: 5/3/3 (270)
    Octopus: 3/4/5 (270)
    Black Suit: 4/3/5 (270)
    Chasm: 1/3/1 (255)
    Jane Foster: 2/3/3 (255)
    She-Hulk: unowned
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 12 September 2022, 14:31
    Assume most of the 4*s above 340 came from chasing feeders, but not all of them.

    4*
    Chavez: 370 (first max-champ, did it chasing JJ)
    Panther: 370
    Frost: 370
    Kingpin: 370
    Lockjaw: 370 (first organic max champ)
    Medusa: 370 (first 4* champ)
    Rogue: 370
    Valkyrie: 370
    Vulture: 370
    Peggy: 365
    Danvers: 362
    Kate Bishop: 361
    Gamora: 360
    Flaptain: 360
    Bucky: 360
    Jubilee: 359
    Cage: 358
    Nightcrawler: 358
    Shuri: 358
    X-23: 358
    XFDP: 357
    Mordo: 356
    Professor X: 356
    Spider-Gwen: 355
    Kraven: 354
    Wasp: 354
    Ant-Man: 353
    Hulkbuster: 353
    Teen Jean: 353
    Nico: 353
    Rocket: 352
    Sandman: 351
    XFW: 351
    TA Hulk: 350
    Ghost Rider: 349
    Iceman: 349
    Mr. F: 349
    Elektra: 348
    Miles: 348
    Cyclops: 347
    Mockingbird: 347
    Gwenpool: 346
    Moon Knight: 346
    Blade: 345
    Quake: 345
    Thing: 345
    EB Venom: 343
    Dazzler: 342
    Hobofist: 342
    Lady Thor: 342
    Black Cat: 341
    Widow: 341
    Carnage: 341
    Riri: 341
    Star-Lord: 341
    C&D: 340
    Coulson: 339
    Invisible Woman: 339
    Nova: 339
    Yondu: 338
    Drax: 337
    War Machine: 337
    Fury: 336
    Main Event: 336
    Karnak: 333
    Red Hulk: 333
    Spider-Woman: 332
    Magik: 331
    Mysterio: 331
    Northstar: 331
    Agent Venom: 330
    Wiccan: 330
    Prowler: 329
    Ghost: 328
    Punisher: 328
    Nebula: 326
    Iron Spider: 326
    Ronin: 324
    Sabretooth: 324
    Bishop: 323
    Devil Dinosaur: 323 (limited)
    Anti-Venom: 321
    Domino: 321
    Juggernaut: 321
    Misty: 320
    MODOK: 319
    Polaris: 319
    Namor: 318
    Talos: 318
    Karolina: 317
    Howard the Duck: 316 (limited)
    Human Torch: 316
    Super-Skrull: 316
    Thanos: 316
    Scorpion: 315
    Maria Hill: 314
    Blob: 312
    Worthy Cap: 312
    Spider-Man 2099: 312
    Wolfsbane: 312
    Elsa Bloodstone: 311
    Legion: 311
    Negasonic: 311
    Beast: 308
    Throg: 308
    Silk: 307
    Alligator Loki: 305
    Hellcat: 303
    Kate Pryde: 303
    Monica Rambeau: 302
    Hydra Stomper: 302
    Red Guardian: 300
    Taskmaster: 300 (limited)
    Ikaris: 298
    Gertrude Yorkes: 295
    Lizard: 295
    Melinda May: 295
    Doc Ock: 292
    Mantis: 291
    Echo: 290
    Rhino: 289
    Black Knight: 287
    Morbius: 286
    Spider-Ham 286 (limited - never gotten from the alliance progression node since we can't get that far)
    Puck: 281
    Hulkling: 279
    Gorr: 274
    Spider-Man Oscorp: 273

    NEW:
    Reptil: 0/1/0 with 325 shards
    She-Hulk: 3/2/3 with 0 shards

    Duplicates - all these were organically covered after max-champing the base character
    Chavez: 298 
    Frost: 274
    Rogue: 272
    Panther: 1/2/3 (70)
    Kingpin: 2/1/1 (70)
    Lockjaw: 1/1/0 (70)
    Medusa: 1/0/0 (70)
    Valkyrie: 0/0/2 (70)
    Vulture: 1/0/3 (70)

    I'm not going to list 3s, 2s, or 1s. Suffice it to say my 3st just grow till they flip, I only keep 3 champion 2*s at a time with the rest on roster saving covers, when they flip I just champ whoever has the most saved covers in the bank, and I have a champion Bagman, maybe the 4th iteration of that? and I keep a 1* Juggernaut for DDQ.
  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 2,032 Chairperson of the Boards
    Looking at your Polaris and Juggernaut tells us you've been a 5* player for quite a while :)

    KGB
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 12 September 2022, 19:41
    I champed Ghost Rider in.....2019 sometime? It was right before Doom came out, and then he was my second one. But I've always had to use my 4* favorite to chase more 5*s, I've never max-champed a 4* for its own sake. Not even in the pre-nerf Bishop days when my 1 and 2 5* MMR had me up against a champ BRB/max-champ Bishop or a champed Hawkeye/Max-champ Worthy Cap did I change targets to get after one of those characters. I kind of wish I had, and once I get done with Widow I plan to park it on Juggernaut for awhile, but not so far lol.
  • atomzed
    atomzed Posts: 1,696 Chairperson of the Boards
    @TheRoadWarrior I am happy to see you finishing your classic 5*! It goes to show that it is possible to catch up on them, with some good luck, and strategic shards. 
    You probably have said it before, but I forgot… how much do you spend on MPQ? I know you definitely not a whale, but wondering how much the spending help you to complete your personal goals (champ ‘em all).
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 13 September 2022, 01:32
    0, I’ve been completely F2P since day one, spending purely earned resources as I go the whole time. That was why I originally started the Grand Experiment thread - to see roughly what you’d need to do to keep pace playing like that.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    It’s important to remember I’ve been playing for two thousand, four hundred and eleven real human days to get to this point. 
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 5,401 Chairperson of the Boards
    Also, your highest 5 is 471.
    That only works with God boosts, else you'd hit a very solid 550 wall in pvp at 900.
  • MadScientist
    MadScientist Posts: 313 Mover and Shaker
    Punter1 said:

    With neither of those having a feeder I'm currently lost as to who to favorite at the 3* & 4* level.  Weird place to be.  I've set my 3* as Patch just cos, and I'm working on any dupe 4* close to re-champ.
    I have set my 3* target to She-Hulk because she rewards 4* She-Hulk who rewards 5* She-Hulk. 
  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 899 Critical Contributor
    Punter1 said:

    With neither of those having a feeder I'm currently lost as to who to favorite at the 3* & 4* level.  Weird place to be.  I've set my 3* as Patch just cos, and I'm working on any dupe 4* close to re-champ.
    I have set my 3* target to She-Hulk because she rewards 4* She-Hulk who rewards 5* She-Hulk. 
    Totally agree.  My 3* target is GSBW to get me BWIW to get me the final cover I need for 5* Widow.  After that, I don't have any other unfed 5* classics to champ, so I'll be targeting 3* She-Hulk to help get me ahead on 5* She-Hulk
  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,378 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 13 September 2022, 11:37
    Bowgentle said:
    Also, your highest 5 is 471.
    That only works with God boosts, else you'd hit a very solid 550 wall in pvp at 900.
    This would be true if PvP wasn’t primarily coordinated through Line. Roster strength is very important but remains secondary as anyone with a well developed 4* roster can hit 1200 if they are in a decent Battle Room. Placement is a very different matter.

    I’m not correcting you, since I’m aware you already know that. I’m stating this for newer players that might be confused about PvP. I agree completely that the boosted list is important to resist the wave of 550 Wandas and now Chasms.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm not on Line either, for what it's worth, as a commander in a very casual alliance I'm about as close to a solo player as I think this game will support. I play PVP to 500 right when it opens, and then float till sometime in the last 24hrs when I'll push the rest of the way to 1200 and then finally use whatever shield will allow me to hang on to those points for the season to get full season progression. That's usually good for t50 at least, depends on the event.

    With my roster shaped like this, most everyone at relatively low champ levels, PVP is now relatively similar to how it was when I was playing as an established 4* player except that I have no float point that I've found between 500 and 1200. Back in those days, I used to be able to float ~650-700 on my way to 900 where I used to stop, but now I will get busted back to just under 500 if I completely walk away from a PVP without a shield.

    I will start seeing 550s late in a push, and depending on who it is I'll usually be able to deal with it to hit 1200 for progression but if the boost list is weak I'll often just punt on those upper rewards and walk away.
  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 899 Critical Contributor
    Punter1 said:
    A long, many year journey, finished on the weekend when Doc Ock was champed from Carnage after PVP rewards came out.  

    That leaves just S Daken at 11.5 covers and Havok at 9 covers to champ.  

    With neither of those having a feeder I'm currently lost as to who to favorite at the 3* & 4* level.  Weird place to be.  I've set my 3* as Patch just cos, and I'm working on any dupe 4* close to re-champ.
    From the sounds of it, your next 4* target should be Reptil.  Rumour is that he's feeding Havok.  

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 610 Critical Contributor
    Punter1 said:
    A long, many year journey, finished on the weekend when Doc Ock was champed from Carnage after PVP rewards came out.  

    That leaves just S Daken at 11.5 covers and Havok at 9 covers to champ.  

    With neither of those having a feeder I'm currently lost as to who to favorite at the 3* & 4* level.  Weird place to be.  I've set my 3* as Patch just cos, and I'm working on any dupe 4* close to re-champ.
    From the sounds of it, your next 4* target should be Reptil.  Rumour is that he's feeding Havok.  

    Saw that - though it's unconfirmed and will have to wait a few weeks until he can be fave'd. 

    I have gone the 3* Shulk route and will fave 4* Shulk too when available for now.  
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 8,063 Chairperson of the Boards
    For what it’s worth I haven’t found the 3* to 4* shard path to meaningfully shorten my March to a 5*, but it does feel like you are maximizing your pulls to do it lol.