Favorite Legends Store! (2/19/19)

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  • randomhero1090
    randomhero1090 Posts: 396 Mover and Shaker
    KGB said:
    As a late tier 4* player (50 champed, rest at 209) with all my 5*s only having a few covers this seems like perfect vault for me and others in the same position.

    I've got 250 LT's and 3200 CP saved for Carol. But opening 100+ tokens in this store seems like an ideal way to get the current big 3 a good way toward being champed (RNG please be kind).

    If Carol is meta defining I just wait until its Carol + 2 more in the Latest Legends rather than KP/GED/Carol. That will be at least 2-3 months from now by which time I'll likely have 300 LT's and another 500+ CP saved.

    Any reason for me not to do this?

    KGB
    I wasn't even in close to as good as a position as you, but I took the gamble and went to try for some Okoye black or Kitty yellow.  Ended up getting 6 Okoye, 2 Thor and 1 Kitty (yellow) out of 38 pulls.  Okoye is now 3/3/2 and very usable at my level without totally leveling my MMR.

    I'd absolutely go for it.  Risk whatever you would earn over the next 2 months.  So if you earn say 60 pulls a month, then risk 120 pulls.  With your hoard you could go even bigger.  I always read that 300 pulls is the number.


  • crackninja
    crackninja Posts: 444 Mover and Shaker
    I tend to agree that this has all the markings of a store meant to empty hoards.  I'll personally skip this store and wait for the great unknown as I have thorkoye champed, and kitty at 12 covers,  but for those that haven't completed these characters, if I were in your shoes there's no question I'd be all in on this, assuming you have enough pulls to complete them a reasonable percentage of the time.  
  • First21
    First21 Posts: 87 Match Maker
    Thanks to this favorite legends store I got my okoye champed with two covers one from draw and one from a bonus draw Sweet
  • bbigler
    bbigler Posts: 2,111 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2019
    randomhero1090 said:
    I wasn't even in close to as good as a position as you, but I took the gamble and went to try for some Okoye black or Kitty yellow.  Ended up getting 6 Okoye, 2 Thor and 1 Kitty (yellow) out of 38 pulls.  Okoye is now 3/3/2 and very usable at my level without totally leveling my MMR.

    I'd absolutely go for it.  Risk whatever you would earn over the next 2 months.  So if you earn say 60 pulls a month, then risk 120 pulls.  With your hoard you could go even bigger.  I always read that 300 pulls is the number.


    9 x 5* covers out of 38 pulls is VERY lucky, being 23.7%. Your good luck can set an unrealistic expectation for someone else.  Their pull rate could be just half of that. 

    @KGB Given that you already have 250 LT means that you could burn your 3200 CP going after these Big 3 and still have plenty of time to cover the presumed 5*Carol.  According to the odds, you should get around 6 covers each for the Big 3.  You then have 4 weeks until Carol enters Latest, then 18 weeks in Latest.  If your LL production rate (LT+CP) is 10 per week, then that's 220 more pulls before Carol would leave Latest.  So, you have plenty of time and plenty of pulls available.  Plus, you'll get a bunch more pulls from 4* champ rewards since you have 2/3 of the tier champed. 
  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,966 Chairperson of the Boards
    Random thoughts:

    - Great store! Props to the developers for this one.

    - I have all three max-covered and am actually softcapping Thor/Kitty so others will tank for them. So it’s an easy skip. 

    - We’ve heard “they don’t want us to hoard!”, and if that’s true, they have a funny way of showing it. Anyone without a big hoard is sorely missing out right now on a golden opportunity to be part of the meta. 

    - I made a post on this a long time ago but once again, I don’t think Marvel will be meta. She won’t be as good as the three in this store. 

    - I do however wonder about the game’s future. I haven’t bought into all the “end of days” speculation in the past but the Wakanda vault and current store are easily the best value vault and store we’ve ever gotten. Maybe the developers are being nice but it’s also possible they’re ramping up spending before shutting down. 

    - I also think this store helps keep Thor, Okoye and Kitty safe from being nerfed anytime soon. Otherwise it is sort of a bait and switch situation. But even if one gets nerfed you’d still get your money’s worth champing the other two. These are the best PVP characters in the game and it’s not close. 

    - I agree with whoever said there is a bit of FOMO happening with Captain Marvel. The only thing I say to that is you MIGHT be missing out on Marvel but are DEFINITELY missing out if you don’t have Gritty or Thorkoye champed. Plain and simple. I’d rather spend on a known commodity than hope something better might come along. 
  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
    Well this is frustrating. As much as I'd like to potentially add some champ levels, I'm saving up CP for Carol's arrival.
  • AndiTi
    AndiTi Posts: 127 Tile Toppler
    I went for it with my mini-hoard of 850CP, since I need covers for all three. 3 Kitty, 2 Okoye (including a black cover) and a green for Thor out of 34 pulls. Pretty happy with that.

  • bbigler
    bbigler Posts: 2,111 Chairperson of the Boards

    Daredevil217 said:
    - I do however wonder about the game’s future. I haven’t bought into all the “end of days” speculation in the past but the Wakanda vault and current store are easily the best value vault and store we’ve ever gotten. Maybe the developers are being nice but it’s also possible they’re ramping up spending before shutting down. 
    Their sudden generosity is suspicious. 
  • captainheath
    captainheath Posts: 255 Mover and Shaker
    captainheath said:
    This is the best announcement in months.  My 5/4/3 Okoye, 2/5/3 Thor, and 2/1/4 Kitty are excited.  I've got 765 cp saved up.  I'll wait to open up with my son tonight.  I have no champed 5's so far, so hopefull,y I can champ Okoye, maybe Thor, and get Kitty close to feeder range.

    (However, if RNG is unkind this just might be the day I give up on MPQ.)
    Finished pulling.

    Ended up with a champed Okoye at 451, Thor at 3/7/4, and Kitty at 4/1/4.  Mostly happy with the results.  Just one more Thor...
  • Richyyy
    Richyyy Posts: 305 Mover and Shaker
    The cynic in me says that maybe they're about to make it slightly easier to obtain 5* covers - actually accepting that the 5* level is a core part of the game and not a fringe end-game for heavy spenders any more, and that therefore they shouldn't be so obnoxiously awkward to obtain. Then they might want to encourage people to use up their resources before altering their relative value.

    But frankly, without knowing whether something like that is coming or not, this is probably the best store you're ever going to see. If you've got a CP hoard and don't have these three champed, I'd be piling in. Even if they think they're about to release a dominant Captain Marvel, there's every chance that they're wrong. And unless they put two of these three in a store with her (or change the system/odds up completely), you're unlikely to be drawing from a better overall store even if she's great. I have all three champed and still kinda feel like if all wanted to do was maximise my chances of winning events, I should be pulling to add levels to these three. I won't, because I'd rather hold for a hypothetical future than add, say, 5 levels to Thor/Okoye/Kitty - but you could make an argument that that's the wrong choice.
  • MoonKnight
    MoonKnight Posts: 63 Match Maker
    My 600 CP generated one Okoye cover. 1/24 is not super exciting. At least the two black Namor covers are useful, so not a complete loss.
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,822 Chairperson of the Boards
    Wasp
    Loki
    *Kitty
    Cable
    Kingpin
    Doom

    I feel like there's some trend here....some reason people might not be spending as much over the past 7 months or so..... but I'm not quite sure.  Getting players to dip into hoards prior to (hopefully) a string of good 5's, or at least high profile MCU tie-ins, does not exactly suggest a mysterious motive to me.

    Putting your best characters in a store is more "good business sense" than "hurry and make some money before everyone leaves" to me.

    The same with offering a good Support via sort-of-direct buy, almost a year after introducing it (and really, having several that are as good or better since).  

    The fact is that these three characters are in Classic Dilution territory and each cover would require approximately 3,920 CP to get there (you'll probably get as many or more from bonus heroes with 28 5's in there).  So anyone with a basic math ability knows the futility of chasing them via Classic pulls.  Note also that a ballpark CP rate is 225 per week at SCL 9 and full progression in all events (including Support Circuit), so 3920 is about what you'd earn in about 17 weeks; or about 3 covers per 5 a year from Classic pulls (not including the CP from champ rewards here, but still).  And dilution would continue.

    Also:  While this is an extremely good CP store, there have been a number of short term CP stores offered in the past and it seems to be the approach the developers are currently taking in trying to address dilution.

    DILUTION IS A HUGE PROBLEM and offering a store will the 3 best characters makes a ton of sense to me.  Hopefully they do it again.
  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,239 Chairperson of the Boards
    bbigler said:


    @KGB Given that you already have 250 LT means that you could burn your 3200 CP going after these Big 3 and still have plenty of time to cover the presumed 5*Carol.  According to the odds, you should get around 6 covers each for the Big 3.  You then have 4 weeks until Carol enters Latest, then 18 weeks in Latest.  If your LL production rate (LT+CP) is 10 per week, then that's 220 more pulls before Carol would leave Latest.  So, you have plenty of time and plenty of pulls available.  Plus, you'll get a bunch more pulls from 4* champ rewards since you have 2/3 of the tier champed. 

    That was pretty much my thinking too. I'll make Kitty my BH in case I don't get a lot of 5* luck but do manage a couple BH's because then I can hopefully run a decent Gritty.

    For all the players waiting for Carol, I have a feeling that with this 5* store it means that Carols release store isn't going to feature any of these 3 and so you may end up having to wait till Kingpin is out of Latest before you even bust your hoard. It's another reason I am going to spend a lot of CP here now when all 3 are top characters.

    KGB
  • Bruinsfan17
    Bruinsfan17 Posts: 132 Tile Toppler
    Kitty Yellow on my first pull. Have no CP built up so I'm just pulling as I get it. 1/1 so far though. Woo!
  • RunningMan
    RunningMan Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    Hmm, i'm sitting on about 5k CP, but my Thor is already 468, and my Okoye is 0/2/0 and Kitty 1/1/1.  Thorkoye is best if Okoye is higher level than Thor, but that's not likely to happen, even if I do spend all my CP on this special store ...
  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    RunningMan said:
    Hmm, i'm sitting on about 5k CP, but my Thor is already 468, and my Okoye is 0/2/0 and Kitty 1/1/1.  Thorkoye is best if Okoye is higher level than Thor, but that's not likely to happen, even if I do spend all my CP on this special store ...
    You really do need a viable kitty okeye if only because they speed up things so much.  Yeah it will put your Thor outta position,  but getting two cracks at elite tier chars is hard to pass up.  I will say that the two weeks between now and carol 5 is worth 1000cp.  And truthfully if your roster is big enough,  you can already finish carol during LL phase
  • justsing
    justsing Posts: 510 Critical Contributor
    If you have enough pulls to make decent progress on Okoye, Thor, and Kitty, this store is worth it. 

    These 3 are the best 5*s in the game right now. No doubt about it. 5* Carol? May or may not be good. No point in waiting on a big "What if" if these 3 are within reach for you. 
  • STOPTHIS
    STOPTHIS Posts: 781 Critical Contributor
    70 pulls and only four 5*s.


  • Painmonger
    Painmonger Posts: 167 Tile Toppler
    Told myself 100 pulls or having to save a cover would be my cut off, whichever came first. Kitty & Okoye were champed already, but 4/2/1 Thor needed a little love. 26 pulls got me 3 Okoye black & 2 Thor green, but I decided to keep going to 100 anyway.

    6 levels for Okoye, 8/3/2 Thor now & 2 levels for Kitty. 3 bonus 4* including yet another green for my 2/5/16 Moonknight. Picked up another 6 LT, 176 CP, 62K iso & about 1200 hp from all the champ rewards. Can't complain!

    Estimated I should still have about 525 pulls ready by the time Kingpin rotates out, so if any of the next 3 5* are good I shouldn't have any trouble covering them.

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