5* tier list for PvP and PvE

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  • Rod5Rod5 Posts: 442 Mover and Shaker
    I’d argue Okoye/Medusa/3Thanos is comparable to Gritty/Thanos...best to take TU AP boost but with the right supports chucked in it can be incredibly fast, even in CL9.
  • fight4thedreamfight4thedream GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 979 Critical Contributor
    edited June 1
    Updated the guide to include:

    5* Captain Marvel
    PvP rating: D
    PvE rating: ???

    5* Hela
    PvP rating: B
    PvE rating: B

    Edited to add: Received some helpful feedback regarding Captain Marvel and have upgraded her to D tier. Any more feedback or insight is always welcomed. 

    Rod5 said:
    I’d argue Okoye/Medusa/3Thanos is comparable to Gritty/Thanos...best to take TU AP boost but with the right supports chucked in it can be incredibly fast, even in CL9.
    @Rod5 : Included your suggestion as a possible alternative team. All things being equal, I am not sure that it is quite as fast as 5* Thanos & Gritty but it certainly is a viable option and obviously if the player has a high level Okoye and low level Thanos or Kitty it may be the faster choice. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • VhailorxVhailorx Posts: 4,078 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 1
    I think Hawkeye might deserve a pve "B" rating (but only because of coulson).  Hawkeye/coulson is a really really good pairing.  It's a slow team (in terms of real time, though quite fast in terms of turns), but can beat almost any opponent reliably (suffers in PvP now because it can't deal with gritty).

    Hard to get top 20 using only HE/coulson, but you can definitely get top 50 every event without much trouble.  That seems like a B strength team to me; capable, but slow and not meta.
  • PolaresPolares Posts: 2,385 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 21
    Updated the guide to include:

    5* Captain Marvel
    PvP rating: D
    PvE rating: ???


    Edited to add: Received some helpful feedback regarding Captain Marvel and have upgraded her to D tier. Any more feedback or insight is always welcomed. 


    May I ask, what feedback? I still think she is pure trash, but I have her championed so I am interested in finding uses for her (I looked in the thread but could not find anything).

    The only good thing is match damage when she is featured in PvE, but that's it. She never gets to actually do any damage with powers or even get green ap (the countdown is too long), etc. so I can't see how she can be of any use in PvP.
    Vhailorx said:
    I think Hawkeye might deserve a pve "B" rating (but only because of coulson).  Hawkeye/coulson is a really really good pairing.  It's a slow team (in terms of real time, though quite fast in terms of turns), but can beat almost any opponent reliably (suffers in PvP now because it can't deal with gritty).

    Hard to get top 20 using only HE/coulson, but you can definitely get top 50 every event without much trouble.  That seems like a B strength team to me; capable, but slow and not meta.

     HE/Coulson used to be able to beat anything, ANYTHING (but they were slow, so for me they were fine). This just shows how broken the Gritty combo is.

    I need to check if by maybe starting with +4 blue/ +4 red they have time to deal with Gritty before they are destroyed.
  • fight4thedreamfight4thedream GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 979 Critical Contributor
    edited July 4
    Vhailorx said:
    I think Hawkeye might deserve a pve "B" rating (but only because of coulson).  Hawkeye/coulson is a really really good pairing.  It's a slow team (in terms of real time, though quite fast in terms of turns), but can beat almost any opponent reliably (suffers in PvP now because it can't deal with gritty).

    Hard to get top 20 using only HE/coulson, but you can definitely get top 50 every event without much trouble.  That seems like a B strength team to me; capable, but slow and not meta.

    I think we have to keep in mind the difference between "B tier" and "C tier" for PvE:

    B tier: A character that may significantly improve your clear times when paired with a good partner. Not bad especially when partnered with an A tier character, but if this character is the best member on your main A team for PvE, you will struggle to make it t20 in competitive brackets. Using a boosted 4* may be the better option.

    C tier: A character that will help you complete the more difficult nodes and wave nodes successfully but isn't likely to help you break top 20 in a competitive bracket. Good for those looking to complete PvE event without having to use too many health packs.

    The main question in regards to Hawkeye/Coulson is whether it is fast enough to reliably get a player t20 in a high CL competitive bracket. No doubt, the duo can successfully deal with just about anything; but it seems rather unlikely a player can use that team successfully to compete for t20 placement. Obviously this is mere conjecture on my part, if there are players who are successfully reaching t20 consistently using Hawkeye/Coulson I would be happy to raise their rank.

    Polares said:
    Updated the guide to include:

    5* Captain Marvel
    PvP rating: D
    PvE rating: ???


    Edited to add: Received some helpful feedback regarding Captain Marvel and have upgraded her to D tier. Any more feedback or insight is always welcomed. 


    May I ask, what feedback? I still think she is pure trash, but I have her championed so I am interested in finding uses for her (I looked in the thread but could not find anything).

    The only good thing is match damage when she is featured in PvE, but that's it. She never gets to actually do any damage with powers or even get green ap (the countdown is too long), etc. so I can't see how she can be of any use in PvP.

    I haven't personally used her in PvP as, similarly to you, her power set is too slow for my tastes and I don't like how her Photonic Rush eats your own friendly tiles. (This really should be enemy special tiles imho) However, she does have some synergy with special tile spammers (3* Storm and Falcon come to mind) and has some synergy with JJ, DD and apparently Archangel in the 5* tier.

    Obviously still not great but not quite as bad as Wasp who has no synergy or Banner. Plus she does have high health and good match damage so I do think the argument of her being D tier is reasonable.
  • HilkHilk Posts: 104 Tile Toppler

    5* Hela
    PvP rating: B
    PvE rating: B

    I think the rating is right, but ....A note to add for Hela, her boost on death of an opponent really adds up on harder wave nodes, consider her for those. Get some special tiles out before killing to many people.  Having Both swords and fists Is nice, along with a multiple attack. Nice pairing with Thor, especially if she is high enough to tank.
  • atomzedatomzed Posts: 1,461 Chairperson of the Boards
    I wonder which Tier Iceman and 5* ProfX would be in this tier list. 

    I suspect that they would be max highest Tier B. While they are good with interesting move sets, they are likely to change the meta. 
  • IIAlonditeIIIIAlonditeII Posts: 44 Just Dropped In
    atomzed said:
    I wonder which Tier Iceman and 5* ProfX would be in this tier list. 

    I suspect that they would be max highest Tier B. While they are good with interesting move sets, they are likely to change the meta. 
    Both of them make good partners to Thorkoye, so there's some value there.
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