When does the license with Marvel/Disney expire for MPQ?

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  • gravel
    gravel Posts: 585 Critical Contributor
    edited December 2018
    Straycat said:
    HoundofShadow said:
    I think everyone will know what's going to happen if more Marvel game titles are shutting down one by one.
    What have closed so far? Spiderman unlimited and Avengers Academy i know, anything else?
    Marvel Heroes Omega got shut off last year.  It was an MMORPG on PC, PS4, and Xbox One (maybe?), but part of the reason they pulled the license was supposedly due to some trouble the head of Gazillion got himself into and Disney not wanted to be associated with him.
  • JackimusPrime
    JackimusPrime Posts: 2 Just Dropped In
    Straycat said:
    HoundofShadow said:
    I think everyone will know what's going to happen if more Marvel game titles are shutting down one by one.
    What have closed so far? Spiderman unlimited and Avengers Academy i know, anything else?
    I heard Star Wars Force Arena is shutting down as well.

    This is troubling news. I was planning on dumping a bunch of money on Digital Day, but now I'm not so sure. Theres no way to know if the game is gonna last even another year, and of course if they know it's gonna end, they aren't going to say anything until they have to. 
  • NeonBlue
    NeonBlue Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    It doesn't seem Contest of Champions, Strike Force, or SW Galaxy of heroes is going to be shut down. MPQ is top 200 grossing almost every week. They aren't purging all games, just the ones that aren't bringing in sufficient revenue.
  • Straycat
    Straycat Posts: 963 Critical Contributor
    Daredevil217 said:


    All of a sudden, we have rumors that Disney is getting into the game development arena and their games developed by other companies are shutting down faster than Thanos can snap his fingers. The comparison is actually apples to apples. IF the reason Daredevil was shut down had nothing to do with how successful it was and is all about Disney wanting their property on their new streaming service, then it stands to reason that if they are going into game development, they will want all of their properties in-house as well. It’s not a stretch at all considering what Is happening with other games. It doesn’t matter how profitable/successful MPQ is. Same with the Netflix corner of the MCU. If they want complete control in development, then that’s it. 
    First off, they are just rumors from the op's friend for now. Last we heard about Disney is that they are getting out of the dev side, when they shut down Disney interactive. It seems some games are shutting down, but there's no word they're related.
    Second, games and tv are different. Netflix cancelled Daredevil as to not give free advertising to a competitor. Thats because the show doesn't make them money directly, its part of the service. MPQ is a product Marvel already makes money from, its not like developing their own game would make them more money. If they decided MPQ isn't making enough money that they need to develop their own match 3, then they can shut the game down. But thats not a license issue.
  • Neuromancer
    Neuromancer Posts: 203 Tile Toppler
    MPQ also features regularly on Marvel Insider, none of these other games did. Also, Battle Lines was recently released, so new games appearing would contradict this information. So, for 2019, keep an eye out on the market. You may be able to tell how the winds are blowing.
  • JackimusPrime
    JackimusPrime Posts: 2 Just Dropped In
    NeonBlue said:
    It doesn't seem Contest of Champions, Strike Force, or SW Galaxy of heroes is going to be shut down. MPQ is top 200 grossing almost every week. They aren't purging all games, just the ones that aren't bringing in sufficient revenue.
    Anything is possible. Hard to know what their licensing agreement is like and when it expires. It's not like any of them are going to say they are gonna shut down until they have to. 
  • NeonBlue
    NeonBlue Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    edited December 2018
    JackimusPrime said:
    NeonBlue said:
    It doesn't seem Contest of Champions, Strike Force, or SW Galaxy of heroes is going to be shut down. MPQ is top 200 grossing almost every week. They aren't purging all games, just the ones that aren't bringing in sufficient revenue.
    Anything is possible. Hard to know what their licensing agreement is like and when it expires. It's not like any of them are going to say they are gonna shut down until they have to. 
    true, but judging by what games are shutting down, there's not a top performer among them. Even Spider Man unlimited, which performs well in terms of "most played" is barely in the top 1000 when it comes to grossing.

    When a top 500 or higher grossing Disney IP game shuts down, then I'll take it as a sign that MPQ might be on the chopping block. It all points to what some here have already said: it all comes down to the $$ for Disney at the end of the day. If it brings in money, there's no need to replace it.
  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 345 Mover and Shaker
    So guys, seriously, everyone goes bonkers about this rumors?
    so far we have 4 games here that got shut down
    one seemingly because one of the devs got himself pewdeepied (or however that norwegian dude is called)
    one was a gameloft game, which have a shorter lifespan than a 150 year old, I mean for sure they are already developing DH6
    and two which were  kind of a series and took players from each other

    and if it’s about tv, they canceled Lucifer, why, nobody knows, they just did, so don’t try to see a pattern in human actions, because that even gives god a headache
  • Ed_Dragonrider
    Ed_Dragonrider Posts: 593 Critical Contributor
    As far as i know Netflix took over Lucifer to save it. Sometimes products just change hands....
  • jamesh
    jamesh Posts: 1,600 Chairperson of the Boards
    Lucifer is a DC/Vertigo property.  I don't think you can pin that on Marvel.
  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 345 Mover and Shaker
    jamesh said:
    Lucifer is a DC/Vertigo property.  I don't think you can pin that on Marvel.
    I brought it up more as an example that the patterns of human thinking isn’t much more than two amoeba colliding in a puddle of rain, in the most cases absolutely unplanned and totally random
    Lucifer is/was/whatever current state it’s in a great series with lots of fans and then the producers dropped it like a thallium rag...
  • mega ghost
    mega ghost Posts: 1,156 Chairperson of the Boards
    Do people spending money on this game think it's going to last forever and that it's an investment? Any money spent on a mobile game is 100% waste and done for entertainment purposes only. So if spending $20 will entertain you and you don't think it's a waste of your money, who cares if the game is around in a year? We can have a whole discussion about the mobile gaming profit model and how it's immoral and fosters and preys on negative impulses and addiction, but that's a separate point.

    That said, games SHOULD end. No one can keep this up forever, nor should they. Enjoy it while it's around, whether that's six more months or another five years, and don't overthink it.
  • NeonBlue
    NeonBlue Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    edited December 2018
    mega ghost said:
    Do people spending money on this game think it's going to last forever and that it's an investment? Any money spent on a mobile game is 100% waste and done for entertainment purposes only. So if spending $20 will entertain you and you don't think it's a waste of your money, who cares if the game is around in a year? We can have a whole discussion about the mobile gaming profit model and how it's immoral and fosters and preys on negative impulses and addiction, but that's a separate point.

    That said, games SHOULD end. No one can keep this up forever, nor should they. Enjoy it while it's around, whether that's six more months or another five years, and don't overthink it.
    MPQ is a progression game (like a MMO), not a skill-based one (like a competitive esport game). People don't think its going to last forever, but they do want it to last longer if they're going to spend money on it. Entertainment in a game like MPQ is getting more higher level characters do be able to do more content and have more options long term. The reason people pay for stuff in MPQ isn't just for immediate entertainment, but to get somewhere faster. It's an investment game where your enjoyment is based on how much time and/or money you spend.

    You invest not for monetary returns, but so that you can have more fun over time, and the more time the game has, the more fun you can squeeze out of your investment. This is why people are freaking out, because if you invest only to get a couple more months worth of fun, then it isn't worth it.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    NeonBlue said:
    mega ghost said:
    Do people spending money on this game think it's going to last forever and that it's an investment? Any money spent on a mobile game is 100% waste and done for entertainment purposes only. So if spending $20 will entertain you and you don't think it's a waste of your money, who cares if the game is around in a year? We can have a whole discussion about the mobile gaming profit model and how it's immoral and fosters and preys on negative impulses and addiction, but that's a separate point.

    That said, games SHOULD end. No one can keep this up forever, nor should they. Enjoy it while it's around, whether that's six more months or another five years, and don't overthink it.
    MPQ is a progression game (like a MMO), not a skill-based one (like a competitive esport game). People don't think its going to last forever, but they do want it to last longer if they're going to spend money on it. Entertainment in a game like MPQ is getting more higher level characters do be able to do more content and have more options long term. The reason people pay for stuff in MPQ isn't just for immediate entertainment, but to get somewhere faster. It's an investment game where your enjoyment is based on how much time and/or money you spend.

    You invest not for monetary returns, but so that you can have more fun over time, and the more time the game has, the more fun you can squeeze out of your investment. This is why people are freaking out, because if you invest only to get a couple more months worth of fun, then it isn't worth it.
    You don't "invest" in a match 3 game.
    Ultimately you're flushing money down the toilet, whether the game lasts 1, 3, 5 or 10 years.
    You're paying money to increase your enjoyment NOW, you don't treat this as a long term investment.
    At least you shouldn't.
  • NeonBlue
    NeonBlue Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    edited December 2018
    Bowgentle said:
    NeonBlue said:
    mega ghost said:
    Do people spending money on this game think it's going to last forever and that it's an investment? Any money spent on a mobile game is 100% waste and done for entertainment purposes only. So if spending $20 will entertain you and you don't think it's a waste of your money, who cares if the game is around in a year? We can have a whole discussion about the mobile gaming profit model and how it's immoral and fosters and preys on negative impulses and addiction, but that's a separate point.

    That said, games SHOULD end. No one can keep this up forever, nor should they. Enjoy it while it's around, whether that's six more months or another five years, and don't overthink it.
    MPQ is a progression game (like a MMO), not a skill-based one (like a competitive esport game). People don't think its going to last forever, but they do want it to last longer if they're going to spend money on it. Entertainment in a game like MPQ is getting more higher level characters do be able to do more content and have more options long term. The reason people pay for stuff in MPQ isn't just for immediate entertainment, but to get somewhere faster. It's an investment game where your enjoyment is based on how much time and/or money you spend.

    You invest not for monetary returns, but so that you can have more fun over time, and the more time the game has, the more fun you can squeeze out of your investment. This is why people are freaking out, because if you invest only to get a couple more months worth of fun, then it isn't worth it.
    You don't "invest" in a match 3 game.
    Ultimately you're flushing money down the toilet, whether the game lasts 1, 3, 5 or 10 years.
    You're paying money to increase your enjoyment NOW, you don't treat this as a long term investment.
    At least you shouldn't.
    You invest time in it. Of course you flush money down the toilet, but that can be said about literally anything that is entertainment. You're paying money in this game to be able to enjoy now and into the future. Let's say there's a particular character or team you love, so you put money into the game to finish them. You won't be able to use them for just a day or a week, but until the game shuts down.

    Like I said in my post, you dont invest to get a monetary return, but people who have been playing this game for years probably consider it a long term investment in time and money in exchange for long-term entertainment.

    Oh yeah, and you specified "match-3 game" as though the genre has anything to do with it. What's so special about a match-3 game that you cant invest in it?
  • thorrium
    thorrium Posts: 13 Just Dropped In
    So digital day is apparently didn't cooperate with MPQ this year (never used it), and I only got info about it though the subreddit.   Could there (Is there) any correlation between potential licens problems and no digital day sale?
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    thorrium said:
    So digital day is apparently didn't cooperate with MPQ this year (never used it), and I only got info about it though the subreddit.   Could there (Is there) any correlation between potential licens problems and no digital day sale?
    If there is, you're certainly not going to get an answer to this on the official forum of the publisher.

    Brigby will be "all is fine" while arranging the deckchairs until the very last minute.
  • thorrium
    thorrium Posts: 13 Just Dropped In
    Bowgentle said:
    thorrium said:
    So digital day is apparently didn't cooperate with MPQ this year (never used it), and I only got info about it though the subreddit.   Could there (Is there) any correlation between potential licens problems and no digital day sale?
    If there is, you're certainly not going to get an answer to this on the official forum of the publisher.

    Brigby will be "all is fine" while arranging the deckchairs until the very last minute.

    Most likely..   still the longer questions are asked, and they are unanswered...  the more likely the rumors become.   Which in some sense is just as important to make a decision as a consumer, about continuing supporting the game financially or not.

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