DavidAmaquelin said: Lots of characters to release... but they choose a dupe and a joke...
OK, I know people like to moan but do you really want to own this statement? I may have missed some, however this is what we got in 2018:
America Chavez
Kraven
Shuri
Valkyrie
Jubilee
Ghost
Wiccan
Jessica Jones
Okoye
Dazzler
Domino
Cable
Bishop
Emma Frost
Prowler
Kitty Pryde
Nebula
Taskmaster
So that means we have had Black Panther, Ghost Rider, Infinity War Spider-man, Infinity War Cap, Infinity War Widow, Loki, Kingpin and Spider-ham as dupes. Oh and Wasp…That is basically a 2:1 ratio.
And as nearly all of the dupes are tied into movies which no doubt required mandated character releases, it is likely there was little wriggle room. The rest are chock filled with fan favourites/requested. Complain if you want but c’mon, don’t you think you are being a bit pedantic here?
Nick441234 said: tiomono said: Twomp_thaDJ said: tiomono said: JHawkInc said: This Spider-Ham release has "Naughty List" written all over it.I cannot express myself further without triggering a word filter.At least you delivered the disappointment two weeks in advance so we know not to get our hopes up. (seriously, new Sinister 600 event, Spider-Verse tie-ins, you finally are trying to fix busted 5's, and then, what, decided you needed to balance the scales by doing everything in your power to make the Spider-Ham release miserable? so people will feel compelled to compete for a Limited character during Christmas, the one damn time of the year they shouldn't be playing this game?) Meh, not everyone celebrates Christmas. I know that may be shocking. The world is an amazingly diverse place. Not even all Christian's celebrate Christmas. So why should this time of the year be the one time players shouldn't play? Not that it matters but the Devs surely aren’t working that day so why have a new release then.. just to play devils advocate. Who knows. It's too easy to get confused or upset when we try and logic out patterns of dev thinking. It seems we as players put more thought into the timing and usefulness of the game then the devs do. But that's probably just confirmation bias. Thats cause the devs dont play their game so dont understand how much time we as players actually spend on it each day. Its not a 2 minute hobby.
tiomono said: Twomp_thaDJ said: tiomono said: JHawkInc said: This Spider-Ham release has "Naughty List" written all over it.I cannot express myself further without triggering a word filter.At least you delivered the disappointment two weeks in advance so we know not to get our hopes up. (seriously, new Sinister 600 event, Spider-Verse tie-ins, you finally are trying to fix busted 5's, and then, what, decided you needed to balance the scales by doing everything in your power to make the Spider-Ham release miserable? so people will feel compelled to compete for a Limited character during Christmas, the one damn time of the year they shouldn't be playing this game?) Meh, not everyone celebrates Christmas. I know that may be shocking. The world is an amazingly diverse place. Not even all Christian's celebrate Christmas. So why should this time of the year be the one time players shouldn't play? Not that it matters but the Devs surely aren’t working that day so why have a new release then.. just to play devils advocate. Who knows. It's too easy to get confused or upset when we try and logic out patterns of dev thinking. It seems we as players put more thought into the timing and usefulness of the game then the devs do. But that's probably just confirmation bias.
Twomp_thaDJ said: tiomono said: JHawkInc said: This Spider-Ham release has "Naughty List" written all over it.I cannot express myself further without triggering a word filter.At least you delivered the disappointment two weeks in advance so we know not to get our hopes up. (seriously, new Sinister 600 event, Spider-Verse tie-ins, you finally are trying to fix busted 5's, and then, what, decided you needed to balance the scales by doing everything in your power to make the Spider-Ham release miserable? so people will feel compelled to compete for a Limited character during Christmas, the one damn time of the year they shouldn't be playing this game?) Meh, not everyone celebrates Christmas. I know that may be shocking. The world is an amazingly diverse place. Not even all Christian's celebrate Christmas. So why should this time of the year be the one time players shouldn't play? Not that it matters but the Devs surely aren’t working that day so why have a new release then.. just to play devils advocate.
tiomono said: JHawkInc said: This Spider-Ham release has "Naughty List" written all over it.I cannot express myself further without triggering a word filter.At least you delivered the disappointment two weeks in advance so we know not to get our hopes up. (seriously, new Sinister 600 event, Spider-Verse tie-ins, you finally are trying to fix busted 5's, and then, what, decided you needed to balance the scales by doing everything in your power to make the Spider-Ham release miserable? so people will feel compelled to compete for a Limited character during Christmas, the one damn time of the year they shouldn't be playing this game?) Meh, not everyone celebrates Christmas. I know that may be shocking. The world is an amazingly diverse place. Not even all Christian's celebrate Christmas. So why should this time of the year be the one time players shouldn't play?
JHawkInc said: This Spider-Ham release has "Naughty List" written all over it.I cannot express myself further without triggering a word filter.At least you delivered the disappointment two weeks in advance so we know not to get our hopes up. (seriously, new Sinister 600 event, Spider-Verse tie-ins, you finally are trying to fix busted 5's, and then, what, decided you needed to balance the scales by doing everything in your power to make the Spider-Ham release miserable? so people will feel compelled to compete for a Limited character during Christmas, the one damn time of the year they shouldn't be playing this game?)
DAZ0273 said: DavidAmaquelin said: Lots of characters to release... but they choose a dupe and a joke... OK, I know people like to moan but do you really want to own this statement? I may have missed some, however this is what we got in 2018: America Chavez Kraven Shuri Valkyrie Jubilee Ghost Wiccan Jessica Jones Okoye Dazzler Domino Cable Bishop Emma Frost Prowler Kitty Pryde Nebula Taskmaster So that means we have had Black Panther, Ghost Rider, Infinity War Spider-man, Infinity War Cap, Infinity War Widow, Loki, Kingpin and Spider-ham as dupes. Oh and Wasp…That is basically a 2:1 ratio. And as nearly all of the dupes are tied into movies which no doubt required mandated character releases, it is likely there was little wriggle room. The rest are chock filled with fan favourites/requested. Complain if you want but c’mon, don’t you think you are being a bit pedantic here?
DavidAmaquelin said: DAZ0273 said: DavidAmaquelin said: Lots of characters to release... but they choose a dupe and a joke... OK, I know people like to moan but do you really want to own this statement? I may have missed some, however this is what we got in 2018: America Chavez Kraven Shuri Valkyrie Jubilee Ghost Wiccan Jessica Jones Okoye Dazzler Domino Cable Bishop Emma Frost Prowler Kitty Pryde Nebula Taskmaster So that means we have had Black Panther, Ghost Rider, Infinity War Spider-man, Infinity War Cap, Infinity War Widow, Loki, Kingpin and Spider-ham as dupes. Oh and Wasp…That is basically a 2:1 ratio. And as nearly all of the dupes are tied into movies which no doubt required mandated character releases, it is likely there was little wriggle room. The rest are chock filled with fan favourites/requested. Complain if you want but c’mon, don’t you think you are being a bit pedantic here? Maybe two words missing in my post.. "FOR CHRISTMAS"What i wanted to say is that at least for me, i expected new characters for christmas time. We had dupes all the year, and i am fed up with them.Maybe we needed something new and desired these days.If you like these characters,good for you but I will keep on complaining every time they release a dupe. That's good that for you this makes me being a "pedant"...
HoundofShadow said: I think it's played by people around the world. From Google Playstore:App is available in English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Japanese, and Korean.
tiomono said: Nick441234 said: tiomono said: Twomp_thaDJ said: tiomono said: JHawkInc said: This Spider-Ham release has "Naughty List" written all over it.I cannot express myself further without triggering a word filter.At least you delivered the disappointment two weeks in advance so we know not to get our hopes up. (seriously, new Sinister 600 event, Spider-Verse tie-ins, you finally are trying to fix busted 5's, and then, what, decided you needed to balance the scales by doing everything in your power to make the Spider-Ham release miserable? so people will feel compelled to compete for a Limited character during Christmas, the one damn time of the year they shouldn't be playing this game?) Meh, not everyone celebrates Christmas. I know that may be shocking. The world is an amazingly diverse place. Not even all Christian's celebrate Christmas. So why should this time of the year be the one time players shouldn't play? Not that it matters but the Devs surely aren’t working that day so why have a new release then.. just to play devils advocate. Who knows. It's too easy to get confused or upset when we try and logic out patterns of dev thinking. It seems we as players put more thought into the timing and usefulness of the game then the devs do. But that's probably just confirmation bias. Thats cause the devs dont play their game so dont understand how much time we as players actually spend on it each day. Its not a 2 minute hobby. I would be willing to say that some of them play the game. How competitively? I dont know. But they play and they understand the time players put in. @JHawkIncWhat's so bad about spiderham being limited? If he was not limited I'm sure there would be people complaining about that too. He is a silly character. Not all people want to deal with silly all the time. But some enjoy it. Also my limited characters pretty much keep up with regular ones due to dilution. Except for bagman.Is this a game that is played around the world? If so there will always be chunks of players that will have different availability during different events. That does not seem like a huge deal to me. Others may disagree and that's fine. It just irks me when someone acts like their view is the only valid one. I'm not trying to say that Christmas is not a big thing to a lot of people. It's just also not a big thing to a lot of people.
The rockett said: tiomono said: Nick441234 said: tiomono said: Twomp_thaDJ said: tiomono said: JHawkInc said: This Spider-Ham release has "Naughty List" written all over it.I cannot express myself further without triggering a word filter.At least you delivered the disappointment two weeks in advance so we know not to get our hopes up. (seriously, new Sinister 600 event, Spider-Verse tie-ins, you finally are trying to fix busted 5's, and then, what, decided you needed to balance the scales by doing everything in your power to make the Spider-Ham release miserable? so people will feel compelled to compete for a Limited character during Christmas, the one damn time of the year they shouldn't be playing this game?) Meh, not everyone celebrates Christmas. I know that may be shocking. The world is an amazingly diverse place. Not even all Christian's celebrate Christmas. So why should this time of the year be the one time players shouldn't play? Not that it matters but the Devs surely aren’t working that day so why have a new release then.. just to play devils advocate. Who knows. It's too easy to get confused or upset when we try and logic out patterns of dev thinking. It seems we as players put more thought into the timing and usefulness of the game then the devs do. But that's probably just confirmation bias. Thats cause the devs dont play their game so dont understand how much time we as players actually spend on it each day. Its not a 2 minute hobby. I would be willing to say that some of them play the game. How competitively? I dont know. But they play and they understand the time players put in. @JHawkIncWhat's so bad about spiderham being limited? If he was not limited I'm sure there would be people complaining about that too. He is a silly character. Not all people want to deal with silly all the time. But some enjoy it. Also my limited characters pretty much keep up with regular ones due to dilution. Except for bagman.Is this a game that is played around the world? If so there will always be chunks of players that will have different availability during different events. That does not seem like a huge deal to me. Others may disagree and that's fine. It just irks me when someone acts like their view is the only valid one. I'm not trying to say that Christmas is not a big thing to a lot of people. It's just also not a big thing to a lot of people. Gwen pool is a silly character but she isn’t limited.
ThaRoadWarrior said: I'm pretty baffled by the strategy with Limited characters - why a single 1*, single 2*, and 4(!) at the 4* tier, none at 5*? To be fair, I would be pretty bummed about a limited 5* since they are basically all limited to me lol. I actually like the goofier characters. I remember when 5* Ock came out I was like "YEEEEEEESSSSS, the dumb Roy Orbison art!" I was really hoping that was going to be the place where all the really silly classic looks were going to live
bluewolf said: Depending on how you look at it, for players of medium engagement, you might get more "Limited" character covers than some Vintage 4's.
MirrorKnight said: Really?!Will this be the end of Norman Osborn's Dark Reign? Is no one else curious about this?Are we finally moving away from the dark avengers being the only baddies we fight?!
Will this be the end of Norman Osborn's Dark Reign?
bluewolf said: Yelena and Bagman = characters you would never use, nor roster if they weren't "Limited"....and Bagman gives that LT, so of course you roster him if you can.In the 4 tier, they are mostly silly (Taskmaster is not silly, though) and/or "Anniversary" characters.Limited characters don't dilute your token pool. Maybe that's good, maybe that's bad (can't pull them).(note: I borrowed math from another player on Discord for the following):Now, Spider-Ham is supposed to be limited like Howard is limited. Currently that means one free cover in an event (assuming you can complete the PVE nodes, and they repeat that model) to the tune of about 7/year (that is about how often events repeat), as well as the occasional vault (Anniversary only, maybe).Compare that to normal characters.If you pulled 1 LT per day and play to progression (both PVE and PVP), you'll get about 7 covers per Vintage 4 in a year. Less than 1 per year (0.476) from PVE because the cycle is so long. 1.9577 per year from PVP, as it comes close to 2 available per year. 4.7 from Legendary pulls (assuming even distribution, 85% 4's. Also, this number will continually drop as 4's are added to tokens, diluting your pulls).If you pull 3 LTs per day (the average rate which was needed before to cover a 5, with swaps), you end up with about 16 covers per Vintage.If you are averaging 5 (very high end rosters), you'll get about 26 covers per Vintage.Depending on how you look at it, for players of medium engagement, you might get more "Limited" character covers than some Vintage 4's.
shardwick said: DavidAmaquelin said: DAZ0273 said: DavidAmaquelin said: Lots of characters to release... but they choose a dupe and a joke... OK, I know people like to moan but do you really want to own this statement? I may have missed some, however this is what we got in 2018: America Chavez Kraven Shuri Valkyrie Jubilee Ghost Wiccan Jessica Jones Okoye Dazzler Domino Cable Bishop Emma Frost Prowler Kitty Pryde Nebula Taskmaster So that means we have had Black Panther, Ghost Rider, Infinity War Spider-man, Infinity War Cap, Infinity War Widow, Loki, Kingpin and Spider-ham as dupes. Oh and Wasp…That is basically a 2:1 ratio. And as nearly all of the dupes are tied into movies which no doubt required mandated character releases, it is likely there was little wriggle room. The rest are chock filled with fan favourites/requested. Complain if you want but c’mon, don’t you think you are being a bit pedantic here? Maybe two words missing in my post.. "FOR CHRISTMAS"What i wanted to say is that at least for me, i expected new characters for christmas time. We had dupes all the year, and i am fed up with them.Maybe we needed something new and desired these days.If you like these characters,good for you but I will keep on complaining every time they release a dupe. That's good that for you this makes me being a "pedant"... Probably not too many people that want to spend Christmas grinding for top placement.
Smart80 said: shardwick said: DavidAmaquelin said: DAZ0273 said: DavidAmaquelin said: Lots of characters to release... but they choose a dupe and a joke... OK, I know people like to moan but do you really want to own this statement? I may have missed some, however this is what we got in 2018: America Chavez Kraven Shuri Valkyrie Jubilee Ghost Wiccan Jessica Jones Okoye Dazzler Domino Cable Bishop Emma Frost Prowler Kitty Pryde Nebula Taskmaster So that means we have had Black Panther, Ghost Rider, Infinity War Spider-man, Infinity War Cap, Infinity War Widow, Loki, Kingpin and Spider-ham as dupes. Oh and Wasp…That is basically a 2:1 ratio. And as nearly all of the dupes are tied into movies which no doubt required mandated character releases, it is likely there was little wriggle room. The rest are chock filled with fan favourites/requested. Complain if you want but c’mon, don’t you think you are being a bit pedantic here? Maybe two words missing in my post.. "FOR CHRISTMAS"What i wanted to say is that at least for me, i expected new characters for christmas time. We had dupes all the year, and i am fed up with them.Maybe we needed something new and desired these days.If you like these characters,good for you but I will keep on complaining every time they release a dupe. That's good that for you this makes me being a "pedant"... Probably not too many people that want to spend Christmas grinding for top placement. Agreed, if there ever was a call for no timers pve play, its around Xmas time... So Lets hope for a rerun of Sinister 600 over Xmas time for Porker release...
shardwick said: Smart80 said: shardwick said: DavidAmaquelin said: DAZ0273 said: DavidAmaquelin said: Lots of characters to release... but they choose a dupe and a joke... OK, I know people like to moan but do you really want to own this statement? I may have missed some, however this is what we got in 2018: America Chavez Kraven Shuri Valkyrie Jubilee Ghost Wiccan Jessica Jones Okoye Dazzler Domino Cable Bishop Emma Frost Prowler Kitty Pryde Nebula Taskmaster So that means we have had Black Panther, Ghost Rider, Infinity War Spider-man, Infinity War Cap, Infinity War Widow, Loki, Kingpin and Spider-ham as dupes. Oh and Wasp…That is basically a 2:1 ratio. And as nearly all of the dupes are tied into movies which no doubt required mandated character releases, it is likely there was little wriggle room. The rest are chock filled with fan favourites/requested. Complain if you want but c’mon, don’t you think you are being a bit pedantic here? Maybe two words missing in my post.. "FOR CHRISTMAS"What i wanted to say is that at least for me, i expected new characters for christmas time. We had dupes all the year, and i am fed up with them.Maybe we needed something new and desired these days.If you like these characters,good for you but I will keep on complaining every time they release a dupe. That's good that for you this makes me being a "pedant"... Probably not too many people that want to spend Christmas grinding for top placement. Agreed, if there ever was a call for no timers pve play, its around Xmas time... So Lets hope for a rerun of Sinister 600 over Xmas time for Porker release... Maybe they could finally bring back the gauntlet and do a holiday version that rewards double iso, tokens to the holiday vault and Spider Ham covers.
shardwick said: Probably not too many people that want to spend Christmas grinding for top placement.