Palookaville said: When I was running 4*s I got to 900 with ease nearly every PvP event (usually in one go) then I made the mistake of leveling up one of my 5*s to 450 (and a couple to 420) now I get to 575 and quit because I cannot move past that without being hammered as all I can face are 450+ teams and I can't compete with that. When I had 4* teams and faced other 4* (and even 3* teams) life was so much easier
Daredevil217 said: Palookaville said: When I was running 4*s I got to 900 with ease nearly every PvP event (usually in one go) then I made the mistake of leveling up one of my 5*s to 450 (and a couple to 420) now I get to 575 and quit because I cannot move past that without being hammered as all I can face are 450+ teams and I can't compete with that. When I had 4* teams and faced other 4* (and even 3* teams) life was so much easier Are you losing matches you are playing or getting hammered by other players faster than you can climb?Also what fives are you running?Thanks for sharing your experience by the way!
Palookaville said: Daredevil217 said: Palookaville said: When I was running 4*s I got to 900 with ease nearly every PvP event (usually in one go) then I made the mistake of leveling up one of my 5*s to 450 (and a couple to 420) now I get to 575 and quit because I cannot move past that without being hammered as all I can face are 450+ teams and I can't compete with that. When I had 4* teams and faced other 4* (and even 3* teams) life was so much easier Are you losing matches you are playing or getting hammered by other players faster than you can climb?Also what fives are you running?Thanks for sharing your experience by the way! Usually I run the chosen 3* ('natch) and a 451 OML with the third character usually being a boosted four star. I do have a 435 Silver Surfer and a 420 DareDevil & Hawkeye, but I figured they are not any kind of deterrent.I would love to use the chosen 3* and two 4* characters, but since every team I face has at least one 450 5* the match damage alone takes down my 4*'s before I can do much damage. That is why I use OML as a self healing tank. (I usually win most matches I initiate) I usually don't get attacked with any great force until I hit 500 or so (but I do occasionally get hit below 500 a couple of times) When I get to 575, I stop because for every fight I win, I have usually lost two or three in return.plus (and this is important - I really should have mentioned it earlier, sorry) I only jump in with a couple of hours to go on the event, so there will be a lot of people out there attacking me. I have found that when I start the event earlier, the same kind of thing happens. I get to 575 or so and become a target for the Thor/Okoye teams as I usually don't have a maxed 3*, I have a good 4* and a nice 5*, but I think I am still seen as an easy target.
Sm0keyJ0e said: You are getting mixed advice here because there are sooo many factors when someone climbs in PVP. When did they start? When the event first opens you can climb right away and see all sorts of seals. End of event has most people shielded and other late climbers hitting everything in sight. If I start mid-event I get the same five 500+ 5* teams over and over and over again. I have to hit them to climb whether I want to or not, so I generally start early. Also, what slice are they in? Every slice has a different population and "personality". I think beating other 5* teams with your own 5* team is generally easier than beating other 4* teams with your own 4* team. But the variety is definitely thinner at the 5* level due to the nature of acquiring them versus 4*'s.As far as PVE, there are those that have 5* Thanos and those that don't. Nearly all of the most competitive players are using him for most nodes. There are slight variations on this. But if you want t5 in cl8 or cl9 you usually have to have him. If t20 is ok for you then there are plenty of other teams you can use in PVE and take it slightly more casually.
Quebbster said: Palookaville said: Daredevil217 said: Palookaville said: When I was running 4*s I got to 900 with ease nearly every PvP event (usually in one go) then I made the mistake of leveling up one of my 5*s to 450 (and a couple to 420) now I get to 575 and quit because I cannot move past that without being hammered as all I can face are 450+ teams and I can't compete with that. When I had 4* teams and faced other 4* (and even 3* teams) life was so much easier Are you losing matches you are playing or getting hammered by other players faster than you can climb?Also what fives are you running?Thanks for sharing your experience by the way! Usually I run the chosen 3* ('natch) and a 451 OML with the third character usually being a boosted four star. I do have a 435 Silver Surfer and a 420 DareDevil & Hawkeye, but I figured they are not any kind of deterrent.I would love to use the chosen 3* and two 4* characters, but since every team I face has at least one 450 5* the match damage alone takes down my 4*'s before I can do much damage. That is why I use OML as a self healing tank. (I usually win most matches I initiate) I usually don't get attacked with any great force until I hit 500 or so (but I do occasionally get hit below 500 a couple of times) When I get to 575, I stop because for every fight I win, I have usually lost two or three in return.plus (and this is important - I really should have mentioned it earlier, sorry) I only jump in with a couple of hours to go on the event, so there will be a lot of people out there attacking me. I have found that when I start the event earlier, the same kind of thing happens. I get to 575 or so and become a target for the Thor/Okoye teams as I usually don't have a maxed 3*, I have a good 4* and a nice 5*, but I think I am still seen as an easy target. There*s the problem then. OML is not particularly scary - his strong side is his durability, but he is easy pickings on defense. DD and Hawkeye are both more of a deterrent than OML as they can mess you up pretty good even if they are easier to beat than the top tier fivestars. It's not strange that you attract a lot of hits, with a stronger fivestar you would have less of a bullseye on your back.
Yepyep said: Quebbster said: Palookaville said: Daredevil217 said: Palookaville said: When I was running 4*s I got to 900 with ease nearly every PvP event (usually in one go) then I made the mistake of leveling up one of my 5*s to 450 (and a couple to 420) now I get to 575 and quit because I cannot move past that without being hammered as all I can face are 450+ teams and I can't compete with that. When I had 4* teams and faced other 4* (and even 3* teams) life was so much easier Are you losing matches you are playing or getting hammered by other players faster than you can climb?Also what fives are you running?Thanks for sharing your experience by the way! Usually I run the chosen 3* ('natch) and a 451 OML with the third character usually being a boosted four star. I do have a 435 Silver Surfer and a 420 DareDevil & Hawkeye, but I figured they are not any kind of deterrent.I would love to use the chosen 3* and two 4* characters, but since every team I face has at least one 450 5* the match damage alone takes down my 4*'s before I can do much damage. That is why I use OML as a self healing tank. (I usually win most matches I initiate) I usually don't get attacked with any great force until I hit 500 or so (but I do occasionally get hit below 500 a couple of times) When I get to 575, I stop because for every fight I win, I have usually lost two or three in return.plus (and this is important - I really should have mentioned it earlier, sorry) I only jump in with a couple of hours to go on the event, so there will be a lot of people out there attacking me. I have found that when I start the event earlier, the same kind of thing happens. I get to 575 or so and become a target for the Thor/Okoye teams as I usually don't have a maxed 3*, I have a good 4* and a nice 5*, but I think I am still seen as an easy target. There*s the problem then. OML is not particularly scary - his strong side is his durability, but he is easy pickings on defense. DD and Hawkeye are both more of a deterrent than OML as they can mess you up pretty good even if they are easier to beat than the top tier fivestars. It's not strange that you attract a lot of hits, with a stronger fivestar you would have less of a bullseye on your back. This is what I would fear moving to 5*. I think the only way to do it, really, is to hoard ISO once you have a strong bench of 5*s fully covered and then champ them all at once so that you can compete as a peer (even if at lower levels, which cannot be overcome).
tiomono said: Yepyep said: Quebbster said: Palookaville said: Daredevil217 said: Palookaville said: When I was running 4*s I got to 900 with ease nearly every PvP event (usually in one go) then I made the mistake of leveling up one of my 5*s to 450 (and a couple to 420) now I get to 575 and quit because I cannot move past that without being hammered as all I can face are 450+ teams and I can't compete with that. When I had 4* teams and faced other 4* (and even 3* teams) life was so much easier Are you losing matches you are playing or getting hammered by other players faster than you can climb?Also what fives are you running?Thanks for sharing your experience by the way! Usually I run the chosen 3* ('natch) and a 451 OML with the third character usually being a boosted four star. I do have a 435 Silver Surfer and a 420 DareDevil & Hawkeye, but I figured they are not any kind of deterrent.I would love to use the chosen 3* and two 4* characters, but since every team I face has at least one 450 5* the match damage alone takes down my 4*'s before I can do much damage. That is why I use OML as a self healing tank. (I usually win most matches I initiate) I usually don't get attacked with any great force until I hit 500 or so (but I do occasionally get hit below 500 a couple of times) When I get to 575, I stop because for every fight I win, I have usually lost two or three in return.plus (and this is important - I really should have mentioned it earlier, sorry) I only jump in with a couple of hours to go on the event, so there will be a lot of people out there attacking me. I have found that when I start the event earlier, the same kind of thing happens. I get to 575 or so and become a target for the Thor/Okoye teams as I usually don't have a maxed 3*, I have a good 4* and a nice 5*, but I think I am still seen as an easy target. There*s the problem then. OML is not particularly scary - his strong side is his durability, but he is easy pickings on defense. DD and Hawkeye are both more of a deterrent than OML as they can mess you up pretty good even if they are easier to beat than the top tier fivestars. It's not strange that you attract a lot of hits, with a stronger fivestar you would have less of a bullseye on your back. This is what I would fear moving to 5*. I think the only way to do it, really, is to hoard ISO once you have a strong bench of 5*s fully covered and then champ them all at once so that you can compete as a peer (even if at lower levels, which cannot be overcome). It's like that at every level though. If falcon or kraven was your only 4* you would struggle in versus for a bit.
Daredevil217 said: ^^^Are you using those 10 champs in PVP? I know you don’t play regularly but when you do, can you hit 900 easily?I’m not worried about PVE. Since there’s no defense and often no tile movers, tons of teams are viable. None of those 9 listed are PVP meta so I imagine you’d get slammed a ton, but I could be wrong.
MegaBee said: I championed Okoye and Beardy Cap in rapid succession, and PvP became nigh impossible.
BigSoftieFF said: MegaBee said: I championed Okoye and Beardy Cap in rapid succession, and PvP became nigh impossible. Can you elaborate? I haven’t made it there yet but would like to jump in when I get there. This makes me question if I should as they seem like two good 5*’s to jump in with.
MegaBee said: BigSoftieFF said: MegaBee said: I championed Okoye and Beardy Cap in rapid succession, and PvP became nigh impossible. Can you elaborate? I haven’t made it there yet but would like to jump in when I get there. This makes me question if I should as they seem like two good 5*’s to jump in with. They are both excellent 5* characters.
Jexman said: Okoye isn't going to buff Lumbercap's attacks in a significant way.
Bowgentle said:
MegaBee said: BigSoftieFF said: MegaBee said: I championed Okoye and Beardy Cap in rapid succession, and PvP became nigh impossible. Can you elaborate? I haven’t made it there yet but would like to jump in when I get there. This makes me question if I should as they seem like two good 5*’s to jump in with. They are both excellent 5* characters. While Okoye is excellent, I wouldn't have picked Lumbercap as my second champed 5.Calling him "excellent" is a bit of a stretch.He's more like OK.