Jaedenkaal said: Dartmaster01 said: I was assuming the restriction stayed in place to prevent Gam-battery coming back. Which I am ok with. Also, since apparently Red powers are the best damage dealers (according to other posts here) allowing him to feed others' Red powers would do nothing to increase team diversity. Best 2 5*s have good (or even fine) Red powers? Gambit is an auto-include 3rd
Dartmaster01 said: I was assuming the restriction stayed in place to prevent Gam-battery coming back. Which I am ok with.
I was assuming the restriction stayed in place to prevent Gam-battery coming back. Which I am ok with.
Dartmaster01 said: Jaedenkaal said: Dartmaster01 said: I was assuming the restriction stayed in place to prevent Gam-battery coming back. Which I am ok with. Also, since apparently Red powers are the best damage dealers (according to other posts here) allowing him to feed others' Red powers would do nothing to increase team diversity. Best 2 5*s have good (or even fine) Red powers? Gambit is an auto-include 3rd Okoye/Thor/Gam-battery would be all I ever used. I mean who doesn't want to just spam thor's red for 60k-80k every turn with thor and gambit feeding red. It would be awesome for those that have it and worse than current Gambit for those that don't, so not healthy for the game considering they are trying to bring Gambit in line.
I don't know, like I said Gambit's AP generation will be incredibly inconsistent. Pre-Nerf it's straight 2AP/Turn (plus -2/turn from your opponent..) Post Nerf on paper it's 6AP every other turn (so 3 AP/Turn,) but in actual practice I suspect the repeater is going to go off, at best, 2/3 of the time - remember each time it gets destroyed it adds an additional turn to the count down on top of wherever it was (one turn to create, one turn to tick down, then it gives AP.) This comes out to about the same, but luck will play a big factor.
>shrug< I mean, if he doesn't block other characters' abilities then it does mean he will feed them, but I'll tell you right now, I'm not going to bring him just as a feeder, a slot in my team is way more valuable than that. If Gambit brings nothing but AP (inconsistent AP, at that,) I'll just take someone else. Also, he's not going to fuel enough AP to, as in Dart's example, fire anything every turn, even with Thor (below 50% Thor feeds about 2ap from each of his colors, he rarely gives more.)
@ GrimSkald Yeah, firing every single turn without fail is obviously a bit of an exaggeration. At the same time, you're not accounting for the cascades that happen after Thor destroys tiles. I understand why, it's a hard thing to quantify and/or measure due to it's random nature but it does happen and often. I'd say from looking at it from the context of personal play that it's at least 50% of the time. There is no way to know when, what color or how many matches will happen each turn but it's a ton of extra ap on top of the 6 he actually breaks. I don't think there's a way to measure it without using that team though because it's always going to be different than the numbers on paper.
With that said, I really don't care if Gambit's black has the restriction or not. I know it wouldn't be healthy for the game but if they remove it at some point in the future, I'll be one of the worst offenders exploiting it.
Dartmaster01 said: @ GrimSkald Yeah, firing every single turn without fail is obviously a bit of an exaggeration. At the same time, you're not accounting for the cascades that happen after Thor destroys tiles. I understand why, it's a hard thing to quantify and/or measure due to it's random nature but it does happen and often. I'd say from looking at it from the context of personal play that it's at least 50% of the time. There is no way to know when, what color or how many matches will happen each turn but it's a ton of extra ap on top of the 6 he actually breaks. I don't think there's a way to measure it without using that team though because it's always going to be different than the numbers on paper.With that said, I really don't care if Gambit's black has the restriction or not. I know it wouldn't be healthy for the game but if they remove it at some point in the future, I'll be one of the worst offenders exploiting it.
Heh, fair enough. I'm not so sure myself, but you may well be right. His black is certainly a lot more exploitable without that restriction.
I'm glad they walked back some of the Gambit nerf, to be honest. I think the current nerf is going to take him well out of the band of "useful for PVP" characters, but he still may have some value in PVE.
GrimSkald said: Dartmaster01 said: @ GrimSkald Yeah, firing every single turn without fail is obviously a bit of an exaggeration. At the same time, you're not accounting for the cascades that happen after Thor destroys tiles. I understand why, it's a hard thing to quantify and/or measure due to it's random nature but it does happen and often. I'd say from looking at it from the context of personal play that it's at least 50% of the time. There is no way to know when, what color or how many matches will happen each turn but it's a ton of extra ap on top of the 6 he actually breaks. I don't think there's a way to measure it without using that team though because it's always going to be different than the numbers on paper.With that said, I really don't care if Gambit's black has the restriction or not. I know it wouldn't be healthy for the game but if they remove it at some point in the future, I'll be one of the worst offenders exploiting it. Heh, fair enough. I'm not so sure myself, but you may well be right. His black is certainly a lot more exploitable without that restriction.I'm glad they walked back some of the Gambit nerf, to be honest. I think the current nerf is going to take him well out of the band of "useful for PVP" characters, but he still may have some value in PVE.
Basepuzzler said: But the “useful for PVP” band just got way larger with old gambit gone. So much so that you can use new gambit in it.
GamBaTron said: Are we still getting a free gambit cover for using him in an event during this season? Did that happen already? I used him in multiple events.
HoundofShadow said: Or they could just make it a fortified repeater tile at 5 covers.