The Safe Rant Thread for Letting Off Steam.

DBJones

Yeah, that's my issue with Mox Amber, if I have enough reinforcements to make it worth the cost and I'm not already winning something has gone horribly awry. Maybe it could help against some big PvE bosses though. At least I just got it from a pack, not a purple pull.

FindingHeart8

Rhasget said:

Against better judgement I bought another DOM PP (8 in total). And still no more than the guaranteed rare. Forget about mythics, I haven't got a single extra rare yet.

So I decided to buy a Rare+ purple pack instead to see of I could get one of the rares I would like to try.
And I pulled a mythic, Mox Amber, which is worse than most rares.

trade ya for a hunk-a-junk Traxos

but seriously though, my first elite pack from the new Dominaria set and my 400 pinks gets me a card that's worse than an uncommon from the same set (11 mana for 9/3 frog is better than 12 mana for 8/8 with conditions to attack).

I feel like a victim.

Aeroplane

FindingHeart8 said:

Rhasget said:

Against better judgement I bought another DOM PP (8 in total). And still no more than the guaranteed rare. Forget about mythics, I haven't got a single extra rare yet.

So I decided to buy a Rare+ purple pack instead to see of I could get one of the rares I would like to try.
And I pulled a mythic, Mox Amber, which is worse than most rares.

trade ya for a hunk-a-junk Traxos

but seriously though, my first elite pack from the new Dominaria set and my 400 pinks gets me a card that's worse than an uncommon from the same set (11 mana for 9/3 frog is better than 12 mana for 8/8 with conditions to attack).

I feel like a victim.

Well, I should have 400 pink gems by the weekend and the only card I have is Traxos from the available 10 cards in the current elite pack. If I pull Traxos , I'll be back. Maybe if I pull Bombardment..., too.

FindingHeart8

Aeroplane said:

FindingHeart8 said:

Rhasget said:

Against better judgement I bought another DOM PP (8 in total). And still no more than the guaranteed rare. Forget about mythics, I haven't got a single extra rare yet.

So I decided to buy a Rare+ purple pack instead to see of I could get one of the rares I would like to try.
And I pulled a mythic, Mox Amber, which is worse than most rares.

trade ya for a hunk-a-junk Traxos

but seriously though, my first elite pack from the new Dominaria set and my 400 pinks gets me a card that's worse than an uncommon from the same set (11 mana for 9/3 frog is better than 12 mana for 8/8 with conditions to attack).

I feel like a victim.

Well, I should have 400 pink gems by the weekend and the only card I have is Traxos from the available 10 cards in the current elite pack. If I pull Traxos , I'll be back. Maybe if I pull Bombardment..., too.

whad'ja get?

DBJones

I also had an annoying match Timestream Navigator. I used no gem changers, but she managed an insane cascade on her third turn anyway. As in, enough loyalty to use her ability every turn for the four more turns before I killed her. That match really needs to be tweaked (along with several others), not for me, but so new players can have at least one match they can take down. Also because level really ought to be a good indication of how strong the PvE opponents are, several of the BoFT matches don't fit. Lannery, Azor's Gateway (that monster ought to be level 500 or so), and the fact Elenda is more dangerous than Azor all don't fit off the top of my head.

Gunmix25

Rhasget said:

Gunmix25 said:

bken1234 said:

Rhasget said:

Against better judgement I bought another DOM PP (8 in total). And still no more than the guaranteed rare. Forget about mythics, I haven't got a single extra rare yet.

So I decided to buy a Rare+ purple pack instead to see of I could get one of the rares I would like to try.
And I pulled a mythic, Mox Amber, which is worse than most rares.

Mox Amber is actually insane. 

I second this. If you read the text it says historic cards and reinforcements; note that reinforcements means any reinforcement on anything you control. If you have H2 and are familiar in how she works, you treat this card exactly the same. Mox is insanely powerful if you're using tokens or even better if you are capitalizing on the nyx effect relating to flipped cards from IXN and RIX. That card is a mana steamroller if you build for it. If you don't, then yeah it is a pointless card as it won't appear to do much if anything.

Apparently I don't know how H2 works since I don't see how Mox Amber and her abilities are alike.
Mox still requires an activation (although Activate3 gives more chances)h and in some games I bathe in mana and some it barely activates.
With Elspeth/Vamp tokens it was good but not really necessary since the stacks I produce, giving mana, wins the fight anyway.

H2 1st ability[lvl60]: "Create a support with “Whenever you match 3 or more White or Green gems, gain X Loyalty where X is 3 plus the number of creatures and creature reinforcements you control."

 So, 3 creatures on the board and 10 reinforcements for one creature will produce 16 loyalty in one swap with green or white gems.

Mox Amber: "Activate 3: Gain X mana, where X is the amount of Historic cards and reinforcements you control."

Say you have Capt Lannery out and your treasures are stacking at 3 a piece. That alone is 9 mana per activation or 27 if you hit all three in one turn. if 2 stacks a piece then it is 5 an activation. This set up is simple to achieve if you have Lannery.

If you're playing vamps, best to have legions landing, if not, skip using Mox… no point. If you are, then use Nyx. The combo flows mana in like a river.

If you have Tendershoot or are playing a saproling build Mox is insane (the best for Mox that I have found so far considering that green uses ramp to get a head start as it is.)

The whole point of this post is that Mox is something you have to build for. It's certainly not some easy peasy mana replacement like Hibernium milled out and that we've become accustomed to. It requires a bit of finesse and strategic deck building. I will admit that if you do not build for this Mythic... you will get absolutely diddly squat.

That is one of the best things I love about DOM so far, is that Oktagon put a lot of thought into how these cards work, the synergy involved,  and the effects they generate. With the exit of the larger part of cycling, we have returned to tweaking and fine tuning builds to see what works and what doesn't. I am loving it!

Aeroplane

FindingHeart8 said:

Aeroplane said:

FindingHeart8 said:

Rhasget said:

Against better judgement I bought another DOM PP (8 in total). And still no more than the guaranteed rare. Forget about mythics, I haven't got a single extra rare yet.

So I decided to buy a Rare+ purple pack instead to see of I could get one of the rares I would like to try.
And I pulled a mythic, Mox Amber, which is worse than most rares.

trade ya for a hunk-a-junk Traxos

but seriously though, my first elite pack from the new Dominaria set and my 400 pinks gets me a card that's worse than an uncommon from the same set (11 mana for 9/3 frog is better than 12 mana for 8/8 with conditions to attack).

I feel like a victim.

Well, I should have 400 pink gems by the weekend and the only card I have is Traxos from the available 10 cards in the current elite pack. If I pull Traxos , I'll be back. Maybe if I pull Bombardment..., too.

whad'ja get?

Torgaar... Actual not bad in a graveyard deck teamed with token vampires or saprolings(slimefoot) I pulled Primevals' Glorious Rebirth with my first mythic. Teamed with Growing rites and Gather the pack it can destroy an oppponent in one turn if you have dumped enough Torgarr in the graveyard. He'll count himself as a reinforcement count if you have one other creature on the board. Slimefoot will add 2 dmg also with every Torg you bring out. Karn works well as you can add HUF to cast all those tokens and Rebirth pops up eventually.

Rhasget

Getting cascadescrewed over and over is great fun and a really good way to increase difficulty.

First game against Zacama node today was a total rout with total mana gained in the match:
34 for me (7 rounds) 365 for Zacama.

Second game against Elenda ended with a cascade, putting my 21 support shield wedged between the two indestructible ones, ending in a 189 mana turn, emptying her hand, cleaning out my three creatures and filling up hers with reinforced creatures and there was no coming back.

Bil

Damn, 21 shields in a single swap ... You might get a record here ... ^^"

Rhasget

I got a bit greedy there

Antiquities War Saga gives your first creature +x/x where x is the shieldcount of the highest support. I had gotten 4 Blightcaster out which has 6 shields/cast. 
Knowing about the possibility of the above happening I usually save one or two in reserve since my deck is built around it.

Mojo

I have got 6 x Twilight Prophets, it is 1 of 3 mythics I have from that set.  The others, Immortal sun and Zatalpa.  The devs should come clean that when a Mythic is rolled it looks at you exisiting cards to determine which one it gives. 

Aeroplane

Rhasget said:

Getting cascadescrewed over and over is great fun and a really good way to increase difficulty.

First game against Zacama node today was a total rout with total mana gained in the match:
34 for me (7 rounds) 365 for Zacama.

Second game against Elenda ended with a cascade, putting my 21 support shield wedged between the two indestructible ones, ending in a 189 mana turn, emptying her hand, cleaning out my three creatures and filling up hers with reinforced creatures and there was no coming back.

I usually can overcome the cascade nightmare after collecting enough cards and being in Platinum , but my friend is in bronze and the he can only watch as Brass takes his creatures, cascades 5 matches 4 in a row, fill the board with her cards then getting bricked right after her turn. The Bo4T is not for beginners or dumbed down to make it even possible to win after the 1st node. I guess they don't have the resources to tier the difficulty between levels.

Quantius

I've never had such a bad Bo4T run. So many AI cascades it's putting me on massive tilt.

FindingHeart8

Quantius said:

I've never had such a bad Bo4T run. So many AI cascades it's putting me on massive tilt.

we had the Amonkhet cut (which even outside of cycling had some powerful cards) and Dominaria doesn't quite fill those shoes (if not in general lower power, than in difficulty of acquiring the more powerful cards).

The Dominaria event was scaled down to match the overall power-decrease, which was great.  If they're going to make it where we can't use cards from the Amonkhet set in the Rivals event (where Amonkhet was still standard) than they should lower the boss difficulty to be more appropriate.

Quantius

The only boss I used cycling on was Gateway. All my other decks remain the same. I only started playing in HOD so I didn't have many AMK cards. 

FindingHeart8

Quantius said:

The only boss I used cycling on was Gateway. All my other decks remain the same. I only started playing in HOD so I didn't have many AMK cards. 

aaah, well that's good to hear at least.

Amonkhet had some really good fast red/white beatdown, as well as Sandwurm Convergence (one of the most multifaceted and solid green supports yet).  There are roundabout ways to create the same effects, but they take more time....something you don't have when facing Elenda, the Dusk Rose and her endless stream of kill spells.

bk1234

Freeze from the card art feature. Viewing through battle log. I don’t understand why this is active during matches. 

Bil

   I also think this full art display feature was the most annoying part of that boft ... It cost me 4 games on the two last nodes ... And the time spent before having to abort them ...
  With a decent collection of cards, the event wasn't really harder than before, but i can imagine the nightmare for the players with smaller pool of cards ...

FindingHeart8

Yeah I tip-toe around clicking on the center of a card when I'm looking through my hand, just out of fear that I'll click on the art accidentally and it'll freeze my game

Quantius

Since this last weekend (and part of why I was so salty about Bo4T) was that this was happening a lot, and by a lot I mean consistently and to the point where I think Hour of Promise only matched gems a couple of times for the entire weekend.

https://imgur.com/a/5ZsmAIh

This morning, here it is again. Maybe it's 5+ days of bad RNG, but I really think they changed something, I'm beginning to feel like it's a liability to include because the AI just eats all those cascades the following turn.