The Simulator: April 29 - May 6

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kermitk50 wrote:

Im assuming you are in the middle of your 2* transition right now. Dont focus too much on moonstone (not a great 2*) and Rags (bad 3*). Just keep pumping your iso into thor/ares/daken/OWB/cstorm/mnMags - your choice really. Any of those will do you better in the long run

yeah but ares is stuck atm, thor i can still work on, owb and classic storm will be stuck in the 40s until i can get their covers which wont be for a long time unless i get lucky from tokens or future pve pvp events (or buy HP's later). Daken i have to like, get his other covers in the prologue as well as maybe rank in this event at the end if i can't make it to the top 75 for falcon.

For now i'll keep moonstone and rangerock for this buff event and maybe get rid of them for iso.

Dreylin

So I pulled a Blue Spidey cover out of a Standard token this morning - will bring him up to 2/2/0 (still unusable), but I'm seriously considering not upgrading him incase it causes my scaling to go through the roof ... this can't be intended, can it!?

daveomite

Dreylin wrote:

So I pulled a Blue Spidey cover out of a Standard token this morning - will bring him up to 2/2/0 (still unusable), but I'm seriously considering not upgrading him incase it causes my scaling to go through the roof ... this can't be intended, can it!?

In my case, in the event before the Hunt, max I think I had some 190 levels by the end of it. I managed to get HT in that.

I got lucky and pulled a red cover, so had him at 1/0/1. Then pulled another green cover, and another one from Hot Shot. I had extra iso/hp, so I decided to buy some covers, got him to 5/0/5 and leveled him to 115.

Around the same time, I managed to get another blue Spidey cover, which at the time, had me at 1/3/0 with him. Then lucked up and got another yellow for him. I bought two blue covers, making him 2/5/0, then leveled him to 66, which was as high as I could go.

I did not use spidey in the hunt at all, each day got worse and worse, until about day 3-4, I had level 300 nodes. By 2 days before the end, bullseye 1,2 & 3 were level 395, Ares in Florida was 395, at least 2 other nodes were at or close to that, with the rest being 300+.

So, if it means anything, it is completely possible that because I bought covers for both HT and Spidey, leveled them with iso, that then lead to being faced with astronomical scaling.

EDIT: I should note that even though I did not use spidey in the hunt originally, once I was faced with 395 nodes, I didn't have much of a choice those last two days but to use him at times.

scottee

Hmm, maybe that's why my scaling is completely not an issue. See nodes all under 100 even though I place top 10 in all PVP events. My Spidey is completely unlucky at 0/0/5. I wonder if once I finally find a Spidey blue if my scale will start jacking up, even if I don't use him. The rest of my roster is 85 and under, except for Hulk/Pun that I just pushed above 100 last week.

daveomite

scottee wrote:

Hmm, maybe that's why my scaling is completely not an issue. See nodes all under 100 even though I place top 10 in all PVP events. My Spidey is completely unlucky at 0/0/5. I wonder if once I finally find a Spidey blue if my scale will start jacking up, even if I don't use him. The rest of my roster is 85 and under, except for Hulk/Pun that I just pushed above 100 last week.

it's possible. Believe me, I've considered selling off Spidey countless times now if that would actually help. I think it may be the combination of getting my first over 100 character, and then Spidey with max blue, all within a short period of time. Had I have known then it would have that type of ramification, I would not have bought covers/leveled them like the way that I did.

Unknown

yikes i have a deadly node in the hard mode o-o dont know if i can do it i mean i think i can i mean my thor is buffed at 100 and my falcon is 105 but my other buffed characters are only under 50. Any ideas?

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daveomite wrote:

it's possible. Believe me, I've considered selling off Spidey countless times now if that would actually help.

No it's not. Quit being silly.

mohio

So I'm not sure what happened, but I didn't join for 2 days and all of a sudden I look and my levels dropped by 100! I guess they had messed up something for me and subsequently fixed it. So weird. These are times I wish they were more communicative so we knew what the tinykitty was going on.

mags1587

I can't see how having Spidey covers (or cMags covers) affects scaling. My levels are pretty low (around 50 for both easy/hard) despite having a fully covered Spidey and an almost complete cMags. I think that whatever effect roster plays in scaling, the level of your characters matters more than what characters you have in your roster. If you don't use either character in PvE I think you'll be fine.

daveomite

Pamizard wrote:

yikes i have a deadly node in the hard mode o-o dont know if i can do it i mean i think i can i mean my thor is buffed at 100 and my falcon is 105 but my other buffed characters are only under 50. Any ideas?

most matches can be almost decided on what the first board you get is, and/or, what the first 3-4 boards are. If enemy leaning, they can start spamming you within 3 moves, maybe even move too if the get really lucky, which the AI generally does have a massive helping of luck on its side.

try to prevent them from getting certain colors, depending on who your up against. If you use boosts, only boost the color you need most, like maybe thor's red. However, using boosts is a crutch, and will actually affect scaling long term.

it really depends on who you are going up against though, and what available characters you have powers for. I'm sure many of the others here may have even more tips too.

daveomite

Toxicadam wrote:

daveomite wrote:

it's possible. Believe me, I've considered selling off Spidey countless times now if that would actually help.

No it's not. Quit being silly.

lol....well, not planning any bake sales soon, believe me.

Dreylin

Pamizard wrote:

yikes i have a deadly node in the hard mode o-o dont know if i can do it i mean i think i can i mean my thor is buffed at 100 and my falcon is 105 but my other buffed characters are only under 50. Any ideas?

Which node (what's the enemy combo)? Buffed Thor is good & Falcon will soak damage - If you've got a Storm (m or c) that could be a good partner.

My philosophy would be to finish all the other node you plan in a particular refresh and then throw a couple of teams against it and try things out even with some underleveled characters. It can give you some good ideas for combos to use when everyone's up and running again, and you might get lucky. I ran 3 different teams against the OBW/Patch/Hulk node the first night and ended up with half my roster sleeping next to me, but the next day I got somewhat lucky on the first try and came out relatively unscathed.

@daveomite: I've got a pretty well-developed roster now with a couple >100 (maxed Patch o'course). The Hunt scaled to the point where I stopped trying the top nodes (I don't think they quite reached 300) and made my points on the lower ones. Think I threw Spidey & cMags in a total of once each just for kicks, and have done similar in previous events. Same pattern for previous events - start at mid-level & generally ramp upwards until I can't complete the top nodes and so I haven't. Maybe it's the extra step of breaking out the Spidey/Mags at that point that tips people over the edge...?

daveomite

mags1587 wrote:

I can't see how having Spidey covers (or cMags covers) affects scaling. My levels are pretty low (around 50 for both easy/hard) despite having a fully covered Spidey and an almost complete cMags. I think that whatever effect roster plays in scaling, the level of your characters matters more than what characters you have in your roster. If you don't use either character in PvE I think you'll be fine.

I agree with you. I was just listing out how I got for having nodes starting in 20-50 averages in unstable and hunt, to having nodes averaging 90-140/easy, 140-200/hard.

that's all without grinding nodes, only doing one pass, etc. And they still got over 300 before I even used spidey once in the hunt pve

Unknown

Dreylin wrote:

Pamizard wrote:

yikes i have a deadly node in the hard mode o-o dont know if i can do it i mean i think i can i mean my thor is buffed at 100 and my falcon is 105 but my other buffed characters are only under 50. Any ideas?

Which node (what's the enemy combo)? Buffed Thor is good & Falcon will soak damage - If you've got a Storm (m or c) that could be a good partner.

My philosophy would be to finish all the other node you plan in a particular refresh and then throw a couple of teams against it and try things out even with some underleveled characters. It can give you some good ideas for combos to use when everyone's up and running again, and you might get lucky. I ran 3 different teams against the OBW/Patch/Hulk node the first night and ended up with half my roster sleeping next to me, but the next day I got somewhat lucky on the first try and came out relatively unscathed.

for me its not any of the nodes with the heroes, its the one with the don, analysist, and the new character i think the control or emperlycist or however you spell it. its after the one with Black Panther Wolvie and the Muscle node

daveomite

Dreylin wrote:

Pamizard wrote:

yikes i have a deadly node in the hard mode o-o dont know if i can do it i mean i think i can i mean my thor is buffed at 100 and my falcon is 105 but my other buffed characters are only under 50. Any ideas?

Which node (what's the enemy combo)? Buffed Thor is good & Falcon will soak damage - If you've got a Storm (m or c) that could be a good partner.

My philosophy would be to finish all the other node you plan in a particular refresh and then throw a couple of teams against it and try things out even with some underleveled characters. It can give you some good ideas for combos to use when everyone's up and running again, and you might get lucky. I ran 3 different teams against the OBW/Patch/Hulk node the first night and ended up with half my roster sleeping next to me, but the next day I got somewhat lucky on the first try and came out relatively unscathed.

@daveomite: I've got a pretty well-developed roster now with a couple >100 (maxed Patch o'course). The Hunt scaled to the point where I stopped trying the top nodes (I don't think they quite reached 300) and made my points on the lower ones. Think I threw Spidey & cMags in a total of once each just for kicks, and have done similar in previous events. Same pattern for previous events - start at mid-level & generally ramp upwards until I can't complete the top nodes and so I haven't. Maybe it's the extra step of breaking out the Spidey/Mags at that point that tips people over the edge...?

I have 3 85's, mThor, OBW and aWolvie. I have the 115 HT, 90 Psy, 89 Punisher. LThor 77, etc, etc.

I have patch...just one cover though. Same with gsbw. CMags, literally just got my first red/blue cover for him, so just have those two.

So, I can't break out my cMags, or Patch for any of these at the moment.

Dreylin

Pamizard wrote:

for me its not any of the nodes with the heroes, its the one with the don, analysist, and the new character i think the control or emperlycist or however you spell it. its after the one with Black Panther Wolvie and the Muscle node

So it's a countdown control node - you want to lean on board control characters. Storms are good for shaking things up, if you've got a well-covered Cap (either) that can target countdowns he's a no-brainer, I saw in another post that you've got a Moonstone - she can be very useful. Buffed Thor will supply the damage.

Even though it's listed as "Deadly" it's probably easier than most hero nodes because you have complete control of the board movements ... not that that can make up for a bad board! Also, with the possible exception of the Subject, there's not a lot of damage going to happen if you can keep the Don's black from triggering. I went for the Subject first - but make sure you can finish him off from half health as his detonate is not fun - then Analyst, Don iirc.

Dreylin

daveomite wrote:

Dreylin wrote:

@daveomite: I've got a pretty well-developed roster now with a couple >100 (maxed Patch o'course). The Hunt scaled to the point where I stopped trying the top nodes (I don't think they quite reached 300) and made my points on the lower ones. Think I threw Spidey & cMags in a total of once each just for kicks, and have done similar in previous events. Same pattern for previous events - start at mid-level & generally ramp upwards until I can't complete the top nodes and so I haven't. Maybe it's the extra step of breaking out the Spidey/Mags at that point that tips people over the edge...?

I have 3 85's, mThor, OBW and aWolvie. I have the 115 HT, 90 Psy, 89 Punisher. LThor 77, etc, etc.

I have patch...just one cover though. Same with gsbw. CMags, literally just got my first red/blue cover for him, so just have those two.

So, I can't break out my cMags, or Patch for any of these at the moment.

So our rosters are fairly equal. I've put a bit of money in on occasions and bought a handful of covers (last 2 OBW Black & a BP Black), so really the only difference has to be in playstyles and maybe the use of Spidey. Sad that that's where the game is.

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Dreylin wrote:

Pamizard wrote:

for me its not any of the nodes with the heroes, its the one with the don, analysist, and the new character i think the control or emperlycist or however you spell it. its after the one with Black Panther Wolvie and the Muscle node

So it's a countdown control node - you want to lean on board control characters. Storms are good for shaking things up, if you've got a well-covered Cap (either) that can target countdowns he's a no-brainer, I saw in another post that you've got a Moonstone - she can be very useful. Buffed Thor will supply the damage.

Even though it's listed as "Deadly" it's probably easier than most hero nodes because you have complete control of the board movements ... not that that can make up for a bad board! Also, with the possible exception of the Subject, there's not a lot of damage going to happen if you can keep the Don's black from triggering. I went for the Subject first - but make sure you can finish him off from half health as his detonate is not fun - then Analyst, Don iirc.

well i did it with falcon, wolverine and thor and i barely won. my captain america isn't well covered. He onlly has two covers, one yellow and one red so.

now ares, OBW and IM 40 are hard at 86. I"ll probably work on them later once i can work on getting the top 5 at the end. Seems like i probably need to work on getting covers and level up more characters to win. Having alot of low levels in my roster isn't so helpful at all

Frubzy

locked wrote:

I got a reply from Support as well.

Here, quoting myself:

I do have characters that are considered broken tier for PvE, but I would gladly forego using them if my levels didn't start that high without me doing anything in the first place.

and their reply:

The nodes for this event are based on your PvE matchmaking rating, and you will have to participate in the event in order for this ranking to change.
Part of the reason you have encountered these is because of your characters that are very powerful in PvE, and the game is trying to provide you with a challenge.

I felt challenged enough at level 230! Honest! I only try to break out Magneto and Spidey when there's no other way for me to beat a mission. Hopefully my scaling gets lower by the next event, because I am way too chicken to beat lvl 330 oBW in Hard (beat the easy one with cMagneto though).


Is that the perfect way to win a battle, D3?


^ I purposefully suicided with Ares' Sunder lol

I have a feeling that the only way to never see the dreaded lvl 395 enemies is to delete your cMagneto and Spider-Man covers.

Tnx for sharing this...
So if they say the only way to lower this is to actually play, and well... do the opposite of what increased it in the first place..
What do we actual do then? Or as someone else said just skip this and it will reset itself?

Unknown

Wait, you guys think there is a conspiracy theory to scale high all the accounts with a high level Spidey, is that the gist of what I'm reading here...?

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