GrumpySmurf1002 wrote: Storm is the ultimate niche character. All of her skills are pretty good, so optimal can be pretty relative based on the situation. If I were to use her with mMags + Mystique, I'd want 5/5/3 hands down, the board is constantly resetting so Hailstorm is useless. Using her with decent greens or for minimal board destruction, I'd definitely want 3/5/5. I think most utility comes from 5/5/3, but I don't think there's a wrong answer for this one. How you use her defines her.
Ben Grimm wrote: I think of her as bottom two 3*s. There's nothing she does well that somebody else doesn't do better, except maybe spam up the board with tiles. I only use her when she's required, and only reluctantly then - even though mine is 166, I was still using the loaner frequently in my final push in her PVP. She's terrible, she shares all colors with X-Force, she's incredibly fragile, and she needs to be completely redesigned, maybe with a passive like Hawkeye's Avoid used to be to keep her from dying immediately all the time.
Mattfal wrote: She had more health? I feel like i would because she has great board shake, hailstorm super annoying, and all powers pretty low ap. Comments are appreciated and please don't move this to the 3* Mohawk storm (gold) topic because not many people look at them.
NorthernPolarity wrote: We all get that you guys think that if they aren't X-Force / LadyThor tier, they're trash. But to go to the lengths that you two are going is just absurd. Here is a list of characters that I would rather have Storm over in PvE: Beast, Doc Ock, Spidey, Ragnarok, Squirrel Girl, Gamora, DareDevil, Psylocke, Colossus, Sentry. This places Mohawk in at least solidly mid-tier in PvE, which is a lot better than you can say for actual trash characters like Beast.
NorthernPolarity wrote: Ben Grimm wrote: I think of her as bottom two 3*s. There's nothing she does well that somebody else doesn't do better, except maybe spam up the board with tiles. I only use her when she's required, and only reluctantly then - even though mine is 166, I was still using the loaner frequently in my final push in her PVP. She's terrible, she shares all colors with X-Force, she's incredibly fragile, and she needs to be completely redesigned, maybe with a passive like Hawkeye's Avoid used to be to keep her from dying immediately all the time. We all get that you guys think that if they aren't X-Force / LadyThor tier, they're trash. But to go to the lengths that you two are going is just absurd. Here is a list of characters that I would rather have Storm over in PvE: Beast, Doc Ock, Spidey, Ragnarok, Squirrel Girl, Gamora, DareDevil, Psylocke, Colossus, Sentry. This places Mohawk in at least solidly mid-tier in PvE, which is a lot better than you can say for actual trash characters like Beast.
dkffiv wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: Ben Grimm wrote: I think of her as bottom two 3*s. There's nothing she does well that somebody else doesn't do better, except maybe spam up the board with tiles. I only use her when she's required, and only reluctantly then - even though mine is 166, I was still using the loaner frequently in my final push in her PVP. She's terrible, she shares all colors with X-Force, she's incredibly fragile, and she needs to be completely redesigned, maybe with a passive like Hawkeye's Avoid used to be to keep her from dying immediately all the time. We all get that you guys think that if they aren't X-Force / LadyThor tier, they're trash. But to go to the lengths that you two are going is just absurd. Here is a list of characters that I would rather have Storm over in PvE: Beast, Doc Ock, Spidey, Ragnarok, Squirrel Girl, Gamora, DareDevil, Psylocke, Colossus, Sentry. This places Mohawk in at least solidly mid-tier in PvE, which is a lot better than you can say for actual trash characters like Beast. Doc Oc is decent with Falcon, Spidey is great against Moonstone (used him a lot that PvE ago when he was featured but Cage pretty much does everything he does but better), Rag will probably be decent once he gets his third shortly, I don't have a maxed SG but I could see her being better than Storm, Gamora I don't have a maxed one but she seems like a decent b-team candidate, I'd take DD's stun over Storm's kit any day, I use Psylocke on my b-team a lot, Sentry I would consider using for his yellow if I didn't care about the health of the remaining 2 members (in the event I also need to use his other abilities). Colossus isn't so great unless you build a team around him (I could see CapAm or Nick Fury doing well with him. Just need some type of green outlet) and everyone acknowledges that Beast is terrible. I think Storm, Spidey, Beast, Rag, and Doc Oc are most in need of kit adjustments. She-Hulk could use a QoL adjustment on her blue and Hulk an adjustment on his red, Marvel could use a slight tweak on her red. Psylocke needs a rework on her blue and some number tweaks on red and black (would love to see red changed to purple).
NorthernPolarity wrote: I think you're seriously grasping at straws if you think that Psylocke is more powerful than Storm in situations that actually matter. All Psylocke is good for is seed killing and a quick attack tile if you even have room on your team for that. Storm actually supports the dominant character in this metagame (LadyThor) extremely well in PvE. Bring a LadyThor / Storm / Loki team in against a 395 node in PvP. Storm probably ends up taking a third of her health in match damage, but mistress / lightning storm probably ends up accelerating LadyThor greatly and helping a ton at winning you the game. Bring Psylocke along in a node like that, she'll deal 2k damage to a 16k HP Juggernaut, and fall over and die. Yes, the HP is clearly a weakness in Storm, but the AP generation on her abilities makes her far more useful in situations that actually matter (not stomping level 30 seed teams) than the characters that I've listed above.