MPQ Sneak Peek: June 2017 Edition *Updated (6/28/17)

Mr_Aziz

TeamStewie said:

Mr_Aziz said:

fmftint said:

Any chance we could get a scaling test for Enemy of the State? 

oh yeah let's make the slog of a 7 day event even worse with another botchamania. that won't be tedious and frustrating at all!

Please no! If they test I won't be able to do SCL8 and get all the goodies

exactly. daddy wants his disgustingly huge pile of CP and Medusa covers.

in fact. let's just postpone the SCL scaling tests indefinitely until the year... 2099

zodiac339

Mr_Aziz said:

TeamStewie said:

Mr_Aziz said:

fmftint said:

Any chance we could get a scaling test for Enemy of the State? 

oh yeah let's make the slog of a 7 day event even worse with another botchamania. that won't be tedious and frustrating at all!

Please no! If they test I won't be able to do SCL8 and get all the goodies

exactly. daddy wants his disgustingly huge pile of CP and Medusa covers.

in fact. let's just postpone the SCL scaling tests indefinitely until the year... 2099

Do you mean... 5* Spider-Man 2099? I won't argue completely against SCL-difficulty, but the implementation had too wide jumps in difficulty and too much exploitability by strong rosters. I'd call it bad as previously presented.

Milk Jugz

zodiac339 said:

Mr_Aziz said:

TeamStewie said:

Mr_Aziz said:

fmftint said:

Any chance we could get a scaling test for Enemy of the State? 

oh yeah let's make the slog of a 7 day event even worse with another botchamania. that won't be tedious and frustrating at all!

Please no! If they test I won't be able to do SCL8 and get all the goodies

exactly. daddy wants his disgustingly huge pile of CP and Medusa covers.

in fact. let's just postpone the SCL scaling tests indefinitely until the year... 2099

Do you mean... 5* Spider-Man 2099? I won't argue completely against SCL-difficulty, but the implementation had too wide jumps in difficulty and too much exploitability by strong rosters. I'd call it bad as previously presented.

They need CLs 9 & 10 and minimum/maximum SR requirements for each CL for it to work properly

zodiac339

Aw, dang. Now what to do? I've been siting on the 13 cover Venom so long, but Cloak and Dagger is one cover shy and Placement from EotS. My brain!

astrp3

fmftint said:

Any chance we could get a scaling test for Enemy of the State? 

When I heard this was the next PvE, I assumed it was going to be a scaling test. Someone on Discord said they planned to do at least two more scaling tests, one of which was going to be a 7-day event.

DarthDeVo

astrp3 said:

fmftint said:

Any chance we could get a scaling test for Enemy of the State? 

When I heard this was the next PvE, I assumed it was going to be a scaling test. Someone on Discord said they planned to do at least two more scaling tests, one of which was going to be a 7-day event.

This may be slightly off topic, but what is this Discord I keep seeing people mention? Anytime it's mentioned, it's in the context of something a dev said directly, whether it's in regards to a new character release, changes to upcoming events or token stores, etc. 

It also almost always seems that this is information that is released before it's unveiled here, or extra information not released here, like extra context regarding their change to the Heroes for Hire store. 

It just strikes me as odd that they claim to be listening to us or want our feedback, then use a completely different avenue to disseminate information or engage with players. 

Jaedenkaal

DarthDeVo said:

This may be slightly off topic, but what is this Discord I keep seeing people mention? Anytime it's mentioned, it's in the context of something a dev said directly, whether it's in regards to a new character release, changes to upcoming events or token stores, etc. 

It also almost always seems that this is information that is released before it's unveiled here, or extra information not released here, like extra context regarding their change to the Heroes for Hire store. 

It just strikes me as odd that they claim to be listening to us or want our feedback, then use a completely different avenue to disseminate information or engage with players. 

This bothers me immensely as well. 

granne

Especially since people on discord got information about the last scaling test that was never officially posted to the forums. I think we had @Bowgentle to thank for letting us know that the SCL8 scaling was going to be +25 per clear, instead of the +15 from the first test.

jffdougan

DarthDeVo said:

astrp3 said:

fmftint said:

Any chance we could get a scaling test for Enemy of the State? 

When I heard this was the next PvE, I assumed it was going to be a scaling test. Someone on Discord said they planned to do at least two more scaling tests, one of which was going to be a 7-day event.

This may be slightly off topic, but what is this Discord I keep seeing people mention? Anytime it's mentioned, it's in the context of something a dev said directly, whether it's in regards to a new character release, changes to upcoming events or token stores, etc. 

Let me start by addressing the first question, and then head onward.

Discord is a chat/voice chat program. I think it grew out of the MMO community with people wanting to talk real-time during raids, but I learned about it through my interest in another superhero-themed property. A lot of video game streamers will use it when they're on, especially with guests, as an alternative to Skype.

I'm the administrator for the MPQ Discord server, because I took the initiative to create it as an alternative to LINE - LINE chat rooms apparently have a maximum number of people who can be on at once; Discord doesn't. There should be a link in my signature, unless the new forums ate it - in which case, you can also look at the MPQ Subreddit, where I'm also a moderator. Discord link is in the sidebar there.

Let's clarify: 98% of the discussion, maybe more, that happens in the Discord server is among fans & players. With specific respect to the scaling test questions, what was actually said - and I know, because I'm the one who said it - was that I expected them to do at least two more tests, one of which would be a 7-day. To complete my train of thought, the other would have been on a Heroic event, except that those seem to have been dropped from the rotation after they removed the limited roster restrictions.

As for news coming there before here: He's dialed back on it, but we've got one person over there who for a while was checking the helpshift website a couple times a day, and would notice when something had gone live there while the formal announcement was in its final drafting stages. (That's what happened with the pending-and-rescinded changes to token stores.) We have, in the past, been fortunate enough to have a couple of demiurge employees pop in from time to time, especially right after news goes live, and answer clarification questions - like about the SCL 8 bug from the first iteration of the scaling test or clarifications about new characters after the Marvel.com announcement goes live.- but it's generally not more than an hour or so every couple weeks.

Let me extend to you an invitation to come join us, provided that you are capable of observing the following two rules of conduct:

1. Heed the wisdom of Bill S. Preston, Esq: "Be Excellent to Each Other."
2. Spoilers regarding MPQ content that is not yet public-facing will not be tolerated except from d3/Demiurge employees, who are considered to be authorized leakers. I'm aware that if you play on Steam or Android, it's comparatively easy for people to get into the data and get sneak peeks. I don't care - back when turul's spoiler thread was active, there were one too many people who got snotty with me for trying to guess characters from the clues when I hadn't read the thread.

DarthDeVo

Thanks for the reply and explanation, @jffdougan. It was very informative, and I appreciate you taking the time to write a thorough and helpful post. 

I realize my initial query could be read a bit accusatory. I admit, I'm still rather worked up about the change to the Heroes for Hire store denying me a chance at a red Spider-Gwen cover, and that's coloring my opinion towards everything related to the game right now. 

It's just that this was probably at least the third or fourth time I've seen people casually mention information they learned while on Discord, information that was never revealed here on the official forum. And I just thought it odd (and yes, annoying/frustrating at times) that relevant info was being disseminated (sometimes by devs) outside the official forum. Almost kind of like, "Why have the forum if Discord is where true interaction happens?"

And thanks for the invite. Not sure if I'll join, but at least now I'll only have myself to blame if I miss out on Discord info in the future.

jffdougan

If it makes you feel any better, @DarthDeVo, everybody there was pretty irritated about it [clarification edit: the HfH store change], too - I'd been pretty close to dropping the HP to balance out my 3/1/5 HoboFist, and lost that chance in the data push.

Hopefully, those things you see mentioned would, as I asserted, fall into the category of "clarifications" - I put the +25 level instead of +15 level from the scaling test into that category, for reference. 

I'm closing in on three years of daily plan. I'll tell you that I've seen the official forums get progressively more hostile to the guys who do the actual programming. We used to get occasional posts on the forums from Demiurge folks; I don't think I've seen one here in more than a year, maybe more than 18 months. I don't know if that's the people who would post here no longer working with Demiurge, or if they've felt it's not worth their time.

During the time the Discord server has been running - which might be pushing a year now; I'd have to go back and try to look up when I created it - there has been exactly one instance of dev team folks coming to us for something instead of to the forums, and that was looking to get a second set of eyes on the character poll that happened earlier this week. It basically started as "Here's the list from last time. Which important people are missing from it?"

If you voted for Jessica Jones, Nebula, Mantis, Yondu, or Nico Minoru, then you have that particular interaction to thank for it. And that would have been really hard to do in real time on the forums, because the poll needed to go out.

Look forward to seeing you there, even if only intermittently.

zodiac339

It was really going to leave Jones and the three Guardians characters out? I wonder if that has more to do with them being in the works than actually missing?

smkspy

Pretty happy with eots being run, that'll get my medusa to 290 through their progression covers.

jffdougan

I think it was that he started with the results from the last poll and gave us the chance to comment. To be fair, I think we made sure all of those names were mentioned before that first draft was up, but they weren't on that first draft.

FWIW, my predictions for the next several months of new releases run something like this:

(announced 5* Spidey, presumably MCU, was not accounted for because no hint in current patch notes)

July release 1: Vulture  (confirmed for 7/13 later on Monday)

July release 2: Shocker

August release 1: either 4* Daredevil or 5* version of Sigourney Weaver's character from Defenders

August release 2: whichever of my predictions for August release 1 doesn't happen

September release 1: Jessica Jones

September release 2: Nebula (tied in to prep for Guardians home video release)

October release 1: new anniversary character

October release 2: Yondu

November release 1: 5* MCU Thor.

That was all before the poll was being worked on.

PresidentDoom2020

I generally don't like these MCU version characters. they're lame and kinda lazy as far as variants go.

either way yeeeeeeeeeee it's time for Enemy of the State. gotta gets me those sweet sweet Medusa covers

Brigby

*(6/28/17) Brigby - Updated Versus events

jgomes32

Brigby said:

*(6/28/17) Brigby - Updated Versus events

Are you sure Peggy is the reward for Iron Man pvp? She was a reward early last season and following the alphabetical pattern i think Star-Lord would be next.

Brigby

@jgomes32
Normally you would absolutely be correct, however due to the upcoming 4th of July American holiday, the development team has decided to celebrate it by offering Peggy Carter (Captain America) again as the placement reward!

PresidentDoom2020

interesting. does that mean there will be some sort of commemorative bonus on the 4th of July?

iron-n-wine

Behemoth Burrito:

• Iron Fist (Danny Rand), Luke Cage (Hero for Hire), Bullseye (Dark Avengers)

Good to see some of the new 4*'s being added to the Behemoth Burrito rotation!