Why would I want to convert dups into dups??
A crafting system that allows you to specify a card you want to craft is a much better solution. The slot machine mechanics are ... very tiring.
I really hope this is not a dup for dups system.
Regarding the currency. I don't mind a new currency. However I recommend they provide a runes to new currency based on the same exchange rate as the card to rune rate so people who played the game as designed (ie converted to runes) are not punished. The game makes those convert buttons so big with no are you sure prompt I know many people hording fat fingered it. At the very least allow the rune to booster currency to be available for a period of time so people who did convert have an opportunity to get the booster currency. Personally I think it would be good to keep a runes to booster currency since runes are a dead end game currency. This would finally give us a rune sink.
madwren said: It's a bit ridiculous that Kaladesh and Aether Revolt dupes will not be converted into Standard. @Brigby It'd be great if the devs could reassure the cynical masses that "guaranteed new cards" does not mean "with the possibility of duplicates still". I mean, I get guaranteed new cards right now. I just need to buy an outrageously large number of boosters in order to do so. So, the simple question is:Will the crafted booster packs contain cards you already own? If no--they do not contain cards we own--then yay. That's really all anyone wants, I think: to stop getting duplicates.If yes--they do contain cards we own--then this is much ado about nothing, and will go over as well as, say, duplicates in elite packs.
madwren said: It's a bit ridiculous that Kaladesh and Aether Revolt dupes will not be converted into Standard.
murtagon said: Why would I want to convert dups into dups??A crafting system that allows you to specify a card you want to craft is a much better solution. The slot machine mechanics are ... very tiring.I really hope this is not a dup for dups system.
PersonMan said: But if the conversion rate is bad, people will just feel even more frustrated.
shteev said: madwren said: It's a bit ridiculous that Kaladesh and Aether Revolt dupes will not be converted into Standard. @Brigby It'd be great if the devs could reassure the cynical masses that "guaranteed new cards" does not mean "with the possibility of duplicates still". I mean, I get guaranteed new cards right now. I just need to buy an outrageously large number of boosters in order to do so. So, the simple question is:Will the crafted booster packs contain cards you already own? If no--they do not contain cards we own--then yay. That's really all anyone wants, I think: to stop getting duplicates.If yes--they do contain cards we own--then this is much ado about nothing, and will go over as well as, say, duplicates in elite packs. I can't see them letting us open 5 card boosters with all new cards. How would you feel about opening a booster which contains at least one guaranteed new card that you currently do not own?
zaann85 said: NOT ACCEPTABLE! Existing cards all need to be converted to runes! It is no way fair to people who have played since before you stole all of our duplicates! This game is on a tight rope and here you go putting the nail in the coffin! I should have thousands of duplicates laying around, but instead I have nothing to show for my countless duplicates but runes. To make this fair for everyone, you must convert everyones duplicates before this new system launches, or you'll have screwed your loyal players for the last time.
Nope,
many of us guessed there would have to be a crafting system on the way and the devs have been alluding to it for months
you chose to convert your dupes to runes, I chose to grind QB and events for additional runs so I didn't have to convert and I have all PW and all lvld to 60 and I've never converted a single dupe. I still have runes to spare.
If the devs decide to mass convert all dupes to runes before the new system is introduced I'm okay with this. I'm still going to open packs and get dupes, I'm still going to be able to draft new boosters it'll just take a bit longer to see results.
I've also opened all my packs. the winners in this will potentially be the ones who are still hoarding packs but then they have sacrificed chances of opening new cards slim though that chance may be.
shteev said: PersonMan said: But if the conversion rate is bad, people will just feel even more frustrated. OF COURSE the conversion rate will be bad. There's no way that this will be a system to allow mid to upper mid tier cash spenders to complete their collections. I'd even be quite surprised if it allowed $1000+ players to complete their collections.Also, it's not going to be a system which allows players to get their hands on that one mythic that they've been wanting for ages, because if it allows us to get specific things, we'll all go for Hixus and TSN.
The conversion rate is going to be terrible.
The current conversion rate to runes is appalling.... what is it 2000 runes for a mythic.
I'm expecting something along the lines of 1 mythic equals 1 token, 10 rares = 1 token,100 uncs = a token, 1000 commons = a token.
it will be absolutely ****...................
and there's no way I'll be able to swap my 6 dupes of minds dilation for Olivia as much as I may want to
Sequious said: you chose to convert your dupes to runes, I chose to grind QB and events for additional runs so I didn't have to convert and I have all PW and all lvld to 60 and I've never converted a single dupe. I still have runes to spare. I disagree. Some of us accidentally hit the stupid button that has *no confirmation step*. All of my planeswalkers are level 60 too and I had absolutely no reason to convert 49 rares and 3 mythics a few days ago. But I did 100% by accident and I know I'm not the only one that this has happened to either.
Brigby said: Hi Everyone. Unfortunately I can't guarantee that the plan to convert duplicates to tokens is 100% set in stone, however as of right now the chances are very high that we will be sticking with that plan.
Brigby said: @PersonMan I can understand the concern, which is why we added this line at the bottom:Booster Crafting is still in the early phases of development, so some details may change along the way. Having said that though, we wanted to let you know about the feature as soon as we could!Increasing the line of communication between the players and the developers is something I've heard time and time again as being desired from players, and it's something I'm striving to improve with early announcements like these. Unfortunately it's an inherent risk that details might change after announcing them so early in development.We've spent many a meeting discussing how to address the issue of hoarded duplicates, and this was the result of those discussions. At this point, there is a very high chance we are sticking with the original announced plan, but we just can't 100% guarantee it. If for some unforeseen reason we need to change that plan, I will do my best to communicate that ahead of time.
nexus13 said: zaann85 said: NOT ACCEPTABLE! Existing cards all need to be converted to runes! It is no way fair to people who have played since before you stole all of our duplicates! This game is on a tight rope and here you go putting the nail in the coffin! I should have thousands of duplicates laying around, but instead I have nothing to show for my countless duplicates but runes. To make this fair for everyone, you must convert everyones duplicates before this new system launches, or you'll have screwed your loyal players for the last time. No one ever has ever had to convert their dups. It's always been your choice. Nobody was pleased with the dup for runes system when it was implemented and they said maybe some time in the future it would be revised but that was what we had for now. I for one decided to take the chance and wait. I've paid the opportunity cost of not having those runes available for leveling planeswalkers. From my perspective it would be unacceptable to force me to convert to runes now with no compensation for waiting the current system out. There was a choice, I chose to wait. Your proposition screws me and it's likely I've been playing this game longer than you.