Leader board positions changing

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  • Greistal
    Greistal Posts: 10 Just Dropped In
    Greistal said:
    Just a quick note to inform Brigby that the same problem is happening in other events as well.

    In Emergency Ordinance I was the first to post a 146 points score. I've checked now and I'm last of the group... I'm 42nd right but there is a lot of people before me at 146...  :/

    Sorry to bother you again, with a low score and worse rewards by respect to Rishkar's Expertise... but every reward counts!  :)

    Thank you and bye,
    Greistal

    Just ended up 58th...  :'(

    Greistal
  • PhoenixRisen
    PhoenixRisen Posts: 102 Tile Toppler
    Nezumi said:
    I wanted to chime in on this thread that I also got 266. I was with @PhoenixRisen in being in the top 50. Then I saw him get bumped out. Then I have no idea what happened to me. I was 46th when a few minutes left, assume I maybe got to 50 before the event ended, bu ended up with a blank rewards screen and did not get the mythic.

    I have to agree with him on this one. Based on how the event went down with tie breaks, the best approach for compensation is that everyone that scored 266+ should receive the mythic. It's clear there were more than 50 people with that score, but I don't see another fair way to fix this.
    Clearly this is the best approach, @Brigby... and if Nezumi receives the reward and I do not there will be a blazing hellstorm on these forums and in support tickets considering I finished 3 1/2 hours before him: 05:19 vs 08:47 EST.
  • PhoenixRisen
    PhoenixRisen Posts: 102 Tile Toppler
    edited May 2017
    Any updates regarding this and coalition rewards? Support has failed to say anything regarding Rishkar's, while they have notified that the missing coalition rewards are under investigation. @Brigby @Hibernum_JC @LakeStone
  • Thuran
    Thuran Posts: 456 Mover and Shaker
    edited May 2017
    It seems this issue persists....In the current event I was the first to reach my current score, now sitting as the 4th person amongst those scores, so first come first serve is clearly gone for good.

    Btw, since we are discussing whether it now measures based on when the event as a whole is joined: I joined the moment it began. 
  • Brigby
    Brigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 7,757 Site Admin
    Hi Everyone. I've posted an announcement regarding the Coalition Rewards issue. Long story short, the development team is compiling the information of all affected individuals, and crediting them with their appropriate rewards. Please keep in mind that this takes time, so please be patient as these rewards are credited later in the week.

    When it comes to Leaderboard Ranks, the development team has identified the issue and is currently working on a fix for it, which will be rolled out in an upcoming hotfix.
  • THEMAGICkMAN
    THEMAGICkMAN Posts: 697 Critical Contributor
    You know that's literally every player in the game right @Brigby? Honestly there are so many other ways to credit people quicker, but I suppose you don't want people getting more than 100 crystals a week for free do ya? 
  • Nezumi
    Nezumi Posts: 19 Just Dropped In
    Thanks for quick responses @Brigby Do you know if compensation to the players affected by the leaderboard ranking bug is coming as well, or just a hotfix to the ranking system?
  • PhoenixRisen
    PhoenixRisen Posts: 102 Tile Toppler
    Brigby said:
    Hi Everyone. I've posted an announcement regarding the Coalition Rewards issue. Long story short, the development team is compiling the information of all affected individuals, and crediting them with their appropriate rewards. Please keep in mind that this takes time, so please be patient as these rewards are credited later in the week.

    When it comes to Leaderboard Ranks, the development team has identified the issue and is currently working on a fix for it, which will be rolled out in an upcoming hotfix.
    I have received this information from support as well. But regarding a hotfix, what's currently being worked on thereby explaining Nodes being pulled in favour for Terrors, what is that going to do to address those screwed out of Rishkar's?

    A previous inquiry regarding a progression reward, albeit slightly different, that I would've received barring being completely locked out of an Avacyn's Madness event was met with lacklustre response. Support cannot compensate for what would have been won (keep in mind tinykitty barred me from playing a single match). Now, they could certainly claim that in this situation as well... but a) I was able to play, b) I finished all my nodes, c) I pointed high enough to obtain the award and was first to do so, and d) the bug was no fault of mine own, and if this change were intentional, no proper communication was made available to the player base in the update notes. Do you understand the full scale of the dilemma here? Is support really going to check that many player accounts (2 platinum brackets alone) and correctly, appropriately rank them by time of event completion? Or will they hotfix solely for future events, and say, "Go get 'em next time!"?*** Though, there is no next time. This event had an exclusive mythic reward and such a broken exclusive at that.

    ***Keep in mind they have 2 coalition events to address and correctly reward all players on their plate to boot.

    Thank you in advance for your response and for all responses up until this point. You're doing as finea  job as I imagine you can in addressing these things for us more "hardcore" players. Bravo!
  • PhoenixRisen
    PhoenixRisen Posts: 102 Tile Toppler
    Thuran said:
    It seems this issue persists....In the current event I was the first to reach my current score, now sitting as the 4th person amongst those scores, so first come first serve is clearly gone for good.

    Btw, since we are discussing whether it now measures based on when the event as a whole is joined: I joined the moment it began. 
    There is no rhyme or reason to this leaderboard bug / update fail. To try to determine the source or reasoning behind it would be an exercise in futility, my friend. There have been several theories, but nothing fits for the whole of the player base.
  • CrimsonNinroot
    CrimsonNinroot Posts: 9 Just Dropped In
    @Brigby so what does determine who gets bumped?  I'm also perfect in my pool. I was 3rd and now Ohboy is in first and I'm 15th. He wasn't even in the top 10 when I was at my last refresh 
  • bk1234
    bk1234 Posts: 2,924 Chairperson of the Boards
    CrimsonNinroot said:
    @Brigby so what does determine who gets bumped?  I'm also perfect in my pool. I was 3rd and now Ohboy is in first and I'm 15th. He wasn't even in the top 10 when I was at my last refresh 
    Again -- no rhyme and reason to it -- I was last in my score bracket when I finished my nodes last night -- I was first in the same score bracket when I finished my nodes this morning. 
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    edited May 2017
    Brigby said:
    Hi Everyone. I've posted an announcement regarding the Coalition Rewards issue. Long story short, the development team is compiling the information of all affected individuals, and crediting them with their appropriate rewards. Please keep in mind that this takes time, so please be patient as these rewards are credited later in the week.

    When it comes to Leaderboard Ranks, the development team has identified the issue and is currently working on a fix for it, which will be rolled out in an upcoming hotfix.


    @Brigby : two friendly tips:

    1) Stop running PvP events until this has been fixed, else the devs will be way head under all the reclamations they need to do.

    2) As I and several other players suggested a long time ago, provided EVERY player with the SAME score the SAME rewards. This solves the tiebreaking issues and would have prevented this mess.

    I was ranked 2nd after playing my last **** node with a perfect score with one player above me and two below me with the same score. Seems totally random. Now I'm ranked 15th or so. Just saying...

  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards

     So with @Ohboy atop the leaderboards I can only speculate that D3 determines leaderboard rank by how much you support D3's game ruining austerity measures that have removed worthwhile rewards and the sense of competition.

    I guess @shteev is totally and utterly screwed :p 

  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    babar3355 said:

     So with @Ohboy atop the leaderboards I can only speculate that D3 determines leaderboard rank by how much you support D3's game ruining austerity measures that have removed worthwhile rewards and the sense of competition.

    I guess @shteev is totally and utterly screwed :p 



    Really? That's kinda low. 

    Not to mention completely hypocritical. 
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Machine said:
    2) As I and several other players suggested a long time ago, provided EVERY player with the SAME score the SAME rewards. This solves the tiebreaking issues and would have prevented this mess.
    Dude, I'd give up on that. Do you honestly think that the reason this hasn't been introduced within the last year is because they just haven't thought of doing it?
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2017
    Ohboy said:
    babar3355 said:

     So with @Ohboy atop the leaderboards I can only speculate that D3 determines leaderboard rank by how much you support D3's game ruining austerity measures that have removed worthwhile rewards and the sense of competition.

    I guess @shteev is totally and utterly screwed :p 



    Really? That's kinda low. 

    Not to mention completely hypocritical. 
    It was a joke buddy, sorry if you took offense.  You are one of the few that seems to support the removal of mythics from coalition awards and spreading the wealth around more to help newer players. At least I thought that was your stance based on your posts.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    babar3355 said:
    Ohboy said:
    babar3355 said:

     So with @Ohboy atop the leaderboards I can only speculate that D3 determines leaderboard rank by how much you support D3's game ruining austerity measures that have removed worthwhile rewards and the sense of competition.

    I guess @shteev is totally and utterly screwed :p 



    Really? That's kinda low. 

    Not to mention completely hypocritical. 
    It was a joke buddy, sorry if you took offense.  You are one of the few that seems to support the removal of mythics from coalition awards and spreading the wealth around more to help newer players. At least I thought that was your stance based on your posts.

    My stance was a removal of unlimited mythics long ago so that we didn't have to face such severe consequences. 

    The game gave out too much to a select handful(yes, me too)  and now it's correcting in the most painful way. 

    Yeah I support it, only in the sense of "I support it because we deserve it, and it's really the only logical path left to take". 

    What... You think I don't want free mythics if there wasn't a price to pay? Lol. 
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Just so y'all know, I get a notification that you're talking about me for each and every post in which you quote that tag :)
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy said:

    My stance was a removal of unlimited mythics long ago so that we didn't have to face such severe consequences. 

    The game gave out too much to a select handful(yes, me too)  and now it's correcting in the most painful way. 

    Yeah I support it, only in the sense of "I support it because we deserve it, and it's really the only logical path left to take". 

    What... You think I don't want free mythics if there wasn't a price to pay? Lol. 

    This is exactly why I used you as the example in my cheeky post about D3 screwing up event rankings.  You might not love it but you support their austerity package.

    I side with the group that says that are dozens of ways to accomplish the goals of making the game more accessible to newer players including but not limited to:

    1. Balance the cards so that mythics aren't so powerful relative to rares. (Specifically certain cards)

    2. Structure the "tiers" in such a way that ranks players and pairs them against those with similar levels of success in events.  Meaning you and I would play each other (yes, for more mythics), but we wouldn't be paired against someone with 10 mythics who just pinged into platinum due to arbitrary color mastery.(that guy can win his own mythic in his own bracket).

    3. Provide catch up programs to newer players to give them a higher chance to actually get mythic cards. (Rather than deflate the currency and reduce their chances of doing so).

    I would go on, but I am realizing I'm a bit off topic and this might get removed.  My point is... If the game doesn't have an incentive strong enough to cause me to try my best to win, I will quickly lose interest and find another game.  There are plenty of ways to make the game more fair and accessible without destroying the incentive to compete.

  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    edited May 2017
    shteev said:
    Machine said:
    2) As I and several other players suggested a long time ago, provided EVERY player with the SAME score the SAME rewards. This solves the tiebreaking issues and would have prevented this mess.
    Dude, I'd give up on that. Do you honestly think that the reason this hasn't been introduced within the last year is because they just haven't thought of doing it?

    Dude, I don't. As long as players are screwed over this nonsense, there will be unhappy players. And the only way to express the unhappiness and try to reach something is to voice your feelings. And right now I am very unhappy by being screwed twice with this system back to back (BP and ****).

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