New Store - Heroes for Hire (4/11/17)
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The only thing that made the 2500 hp offer worth considering was the inclusion of the 3* covers.0
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A small defense for this: Players have been angry about vaulting. Give us all our 4's! So they tried Vintage Heroic. Fail to us, fail for devs (prob not many sales). Then they start this store. Yes, knowing you are being charged more for a cover sucks. Really sucks. But: if we assume they are trying to determine the right price point (aka what the market will pay) they had two options. 1. A poll, which means delayed implementation. (Gather results, analyze, launch, and evaluate). 2. Put a store up with different pricing, see what happens. Allow players to start buying covers that appeal to them.
Remember that prior to VIP there was a poll. The forumites quickly saw that there were two prices being presented to different people. I think the lower cost option is what we have, probably because we shared that information. But we had to wait for VIP to go live.
I would rather have a live store that lets me directly speak with my money than wait for a longer process. I assume the 3600 option is not getting many takers...0 -
Getting the 3600 "deal" for IMHB. Danny was way too expensive at 3600 with known 3*. This is just ludicrous.
There is a serious misalignment between how much a single known cover is worth to me and the devs. I actually did use my hp stock to get 2 HB covers back in the day at 2500hp/cover but he was the best back then. There are more 4* than 3* at this point, he's barely top five in the tier and there is a whole tier ahead of him... And now you want me to pay more? Stop acting like there are three 4* like two years ago.3 -
3600 ($27.00) for this? Ya'll have lost your tinykitty greedy little minds. Players get more for one month of V.I.P. for almost a 1/3 of the cost.
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bluewolf said:A small defense for this: Players have been angry about vaulting. Give us all our 4's! So they tried Vintage Heroic. Fail to us, fail for devs (prob not many sales). Then they start this store.
At least that's what I hope, if this was supposed to be the solution to vaulting, I'd have to question someone's grasp on reality.
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Realistically what needs to be done is that they need to just add the 4's back to the classic packs. Simple solution fixed. They could change the ratios of draw rates around and have older champs at a lower draw rate. Personally I would like to see what statistics their marketing person looks at, and feedback from players, because the solutions offered to what players are asking keep missing the mark; by a lot....
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Why can't they just do three packs?
Current, recent, and classics. There's 40-some 4 stars (let's say 42 for the sake of argument).
14 in each. Draw from whatever pack you want. Done. Nothing vaulted.
Add in an ability to buy characters at a reasonable price. 1500 HP for 4 star (or whatever). Done. No need for vaulting again.
Whales are happy they can buy their way to victory. Casuals are happy they can buy and/or save their way to covers they need. Free players are happy they can save/work for what they want.
Focus on more ISO as prizes and less HP (hey, they have to make money somehow). That way we're fighting to advance our characters, which honestly makes in-game sense.
I would VIP AND buy HP in a more player-friendly solution like this.
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Well, at 2500 HP I bit the bullet and bought the Medusa cover. He's almost fully covered and I have one of her covers dying on the vine, so might as well speed up the process so I can champ her and utilize that cover on the vine.
But it's definitely not something I'd do often or spend and inordinate amount of money on. In this case, it was HP I had saved up anyway.
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kyo28 said:
Well, at 2500 HP I bit the bullet and bought the Medusa cover. He's almost fully covered and I have one of her covers dying on the vine, so might as well speed up the process so I can champ her and utilize that cover on the vine.
But it's definitely not something I'd do often or spend and inordinate amount of money on. In this case, it was HP I had saved up anyway.
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Why is the cost 3600 hp for some and 2500 hp for others?0
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RhodeyWM said:Why is the cost 3600 hp for some and 2500 hp for others?
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I was hoping day 2 might give me the chance to see some of these 2500HP deals but it seems I'm locked into the 3600HP club. Ridiculous.0
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keitterman said:kyo28 said:
Well, at 2500 HP I bit the bullet and bought the Medusa cover. He's almost fully covered and I have one of her covers dying on the vine, so might as well speed up the process so I can champ her and utilize that cover on the vine.
But it's definitely not something I'd do often or spend and inordinate amount of money on. In this case, it was HP I had saved up anyway.
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Allow me to start off by saying I DO NOT endorse or agree with all these recent developments: vaulting, ridiculous Bonus Character pull rates, OML nerf, or the ludicrous Vintage Heroics.
However, with the current track record of the Dev's, I have to be realistic. At this time I have no desire to CHAMPION any of my 4* characters since vaulting has clearly destroyed the 4* champion system. I plan on completing their builds and bring them along with my 3* as they climb above Level 200. With that said, if the Heroes For Hire store was set at 2500 HP, for everyone, it may not be a bad deal. Please allow me to explain:
• 9800 HP for a 40 pack in a standard event vault with 80 slots.
• Vault contains that one classic 4* character and color you desire or really need.
• Vaultkng has taken away all classics and the Bonus Hero % is pathetic, and you are in hands of RNG if you are lucky enough to land one.
• ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE you will get that cover, and you just wasted 9800 HP if RNG is not kind to you.
• If I added an additional 200 HP to 9800 that I would be gambling with, would 10000 HP.
• Those 10000 HP would allow me to obtain (4) GUARANTEED covers that I want or need at my discretion (and not leaving it up to RNG).
As stated earlier, unfortunately I have to be realistic with all the developments. It is sad to see any solutions to our concerns ending up as a cash grab. Please note that I am certainly not a whale, and would only use this on a limited basis. Just my opinion.
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I read somewhere in this last 15 pages about 3 stores. I liked it and wanted to piggyback on it. 3 command point stores, who cares what they are called. One for 10 CP, one for 20 and one for 30. In reverse, newest 3 5* and 12 4*, next 5 5* and 12 4*, and the last, all others. Elite tokens have all 2* and select 3*, Heroic have latest 4* and select 3* and no 2*. Standard have all 1* and 2* and non select 3*.1
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lol heroic as 3*/4* token that is a funny one; they give it out a lot so i doubt then would consider that.
but changing elites to 3*/4* token is a better solution cause 1) u can't buy them, 2) harder to get them as prizes.
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killerkoala said:lol heroic as 3*/4* token that is a funny one; they give it out a lot so i doubt then would consider that.
but changing elites to 3*/4* token is a better solution cause 1) u can't buy them, 2) harder to get them as prizes.0 -
nick_chicane said:Its definitely a silly idea the pricing. The minute I realised people were seeing an offer 1100HP less than what I was seeing, that ruled me out of ever purchasing anything at the 3600HP price tag. Its the 4* cover you are buying more than anything else, I'm not paying 1100HP more for that than what someone else can get that cover for.
While I keep seeing the price tag at 3600HP, it will be an instant non purchase for me now.
They did A/B testing on this for event vaults vs the older event tokens back when vaults were a new thing, too. Apparently event vaults won out.0 -
that is weird, i get more heroics than elites. my ratio is 1:4.
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