New Store - Heroes for Hire (4/11/17)

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  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,811 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2017
    I don't have an issue with it because like the other vaults I wouldn't use them even if it was for my 13th cover unless it was for the single best 4* in the game. Other than that what's the point, there are so many 4*s now you just finish then and are ISO starved anyway. Just finish a similar tier one instead and have a little patience for the one you want to drop.

    My 4* IF is almost there, that blue would have been helpful but is a champed IF really going to matter that much, I will also have MK, Prof X, War Machine, Winter Soldier, Wasp, Carol, carnage, on 12 and X force, Cap, IW, Fury, thing and agent venom on 13 off the top of my head. So really spending to rush a character that isn't Iceman is really pointless. Then thinking about it why would I spend 3000ish HP on Iceman because they can just as easily render him mid tier in the next round of buff and nerf.

    I'm not prepared to take the risk on spending on something that can be manipulated as worthless less than 3 weeks later and ISO flow isn't enough for me to keep pace with what I have and I have made choices based on how I like to play, so spending to increase that shortage doesn't seem very smart.
  • Knaaks
    Knaaks Posts: 40 Just Dropped In
    I would like that last War Machine cover to get him to 13, however, absolutely under no circumstances ever will I in a billion years spend 3600 on it when I know other people are getting the exact same cover for 2500.  The extra elite tokens and ISO are an absolutely embarrassing substitute for the extra 1100 HP.  In fact, bump it down to 1400, keep all your Moonstone tokens and the less ISO than a single level of a 4 star hero, and I would use this feature almost daily. 
  • rg72
    rg72 Posts: 120 Tile Toppler
    "These offers and pricing are unique to the specific user it is being displayed to and are not available universally to all users."

    unique
    juːˈniːk/
    adjective
    adjective: unique
    1.
    being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else.

    How are these unique in any way at all, if the covers being offered are all the same ?

  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,580 Chairperson of the Boards
    ejm04 said:
    If each store came with set 3*s instead of elite tokens, I would consider purchasing this occasionally. But not at 3600hp.
     I'd rather have the elites, because it's ultimately worth a few more XP,  and you have a chance at a bonus hero with the tokens.
    You also have a good chance of those 4 3*s becoming 4 2*s too though.

  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,580 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hulkbuster Red is tomorrow.

    If you buy, it let's you see it early.

    My better half, who can purchase this for 1100 less Hero Points than me for whatever reason, grabbed this and showed me after she got this pack.
    Actually, it doesn't depend on buying to see it, besides the HP price there is a second level of randomness with this stuff with some people being able to see the full week of offers right from the start.

  • Stussi
    Stussi Posts: 32 Just Dropped In
    Dear @Brigby, I will never ever ever ever pay for a 4* 1100HP more than another user based on NOTHING! Maybe a difference of 100\200 HP could be acceptable but this is something stupid. I feel offended as a user who has spent a lot of money and time on this game. Shame on you.
  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,419 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2017
    So it seems groups rotate as well.  Or the Iron Fist + 3* was a one time offer.  

    Yesterday I had the 4* Iron Fist Blue, plus 3* Hulk, Strange, Cage, 4K Iso, & 1CP for 2500 HP

    Today I have 4* Hulkbuster, 4 Elite Tokens, 4K ISO, & 1 CP for 2500 HP.  

    That is less than ideal.  
  • Starfury
    Starfury Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    So it seems groups rotate as well.  Or the Iron Fist + 3* was a one time offer.  

    Yesterday I had the 4* Iron Fist Blue, plus 3* Hulk, Strange, Cage, 4K Iso, & 1CP for 2500 HP

    Today I have 4* Hulkbuster, 4 Elite Tokens, 4K ISO, & 1 CP for 2500 HP.  

    That is less than ideal.  
    4 3* covers was the introductory offer, this is the regular package. (Brigby said as much in the OP)
  • Alsmir
    Alsmir Posts: 508 Critical Contributor
    New offer for Shield Level 7:
    3* Mrs. Marvel red
    Elite Token
    2500 ISO

    1000hp cost

    Is that a joke?

    Based on that we should be able to sell 4* covers not for 500ISO, but for ~2k hp.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,419 Chairperson of the Boards
    Starfury said:
    So it seems groups rotate as well.  Or the Iron Fist + 3* was a one time offer.  

    Yesterday I had the 4* Iron Fist Blue, plus 3* Hulk, Strange, Cage, 4K Iso, & 1CP for 2500 HP

    Today I have 4* Hulkbuster, 4 Elite Tokens, 4K ISO, & 1 CP for 2500 HP.  

    That is less than ideal.  
    4 3* covers was the introductory offer, this is the regular package. (Brigby said as much in the OP)
    Oh.  My bad, thank you!
  • killerkoala
    killerkoala Posts: 1,185 Chairperson of the Boards
    **** sale got worst  Day 02:



    HB red + 8 elites + 10k iso + 3cp

    3600HP

  • Diarchos
    Diarchos Posts: 48 Just Dropped In
    tinykitty sale got worst  Day 02:



    HB red + 8 elites + 10k iso + 3cp

    3600HP

    Got the same deal. Don't need the red HB cover and even if it would have been black or blue I would definitely never buy it for 3600 HP. The most **** deal ever!
  • LFChikarason
    LFChikarason Posts: 402 Mover and Shaker
    All of mine going forward are 4 elites, 4000 ISO and 1 CP for 2500 HP. I did it for the Iron Fist since I knew (and could use) what 3 stars I was getting. I scratched that itch and at these prices, I can pass on these going forward.
  • vinsensual
    vinsensual Posts: 458 Mover and Shaker
    The price for the 3 star cover package is 1000 HP?  It's hilarious that you're preying on new players who you think would rather want a single 3 star cover instead of the roster slots that 1000HP can buy at that early stage. 

    If all the low shield clearance levels were supposed to be a way to protect newer players, then this seems to go against that line of thinking.
  • Alsmir
    Alsmir Posts: 508 Critical Contributor
    The price for the 3 star cover package is 1000 HP?  It's hilarious that you're preying on new players who you think would rather want a single 3 star cover instead of the roster slots that 1000HP can buy at that early stage. 

    If all the low shield clearance levels were supposed to be a way to protect newer players, then this seems to go against that line of thinking.
    It's actually even worse than that. I might even make a thread about it soon, but just a few quick observations from my fresh new (mobile, while I'm a Steam player) account:
    1. Rewards are much worse than they used to be.
    2. Even CL1 Story mode has some guys with 3* champs fighting for placement. (top placement is 2* covers)
    3. Prologue is still annoying.
  • Qubort
    Qubort Posts: 203 Tile Toppler
    edited April 2017
    A lot of people here don't seem to understand what A/B testing is, and that it is standard and commonplace.

    That said, the developers also don't seem to understand that this was a foolish form of A/B testing to institute from a customer service standpoint. Testing pricing on a new store would have been less of a negative PR lightning rod if we all had the same price point each time, and you just alternated between price points from store to store over a longer period of time.

    Testing it this way would only work if we were all unaware of what the options were. Even if you don't use the forums, you'll find out in your alliance chat pretty quickly.


    My gripe isn't even the testing. It's the fact they rolled this out and remain completely silent that it's going on. They've done this numerous times. Roll something out that they knew would raise questions and then hide from us in silence.

    They still haven't technically told us this is A/B testing. Just a link that sometimes you may see different offers. Without telling us why, we can make assumptions. I got the **** offer for 3600 because I lowered my review of the game after vaulting. Does this make sense? Nope, but neither did nerfing OML.

    *Removed aggressive language

  • The Herald
    The Herald Posts: 463 Mover and Shaker
    edited April 2017
    Despite what someone said to me earlier in the thread, this seems like a attempt to push the worst possible deal. One of three things will happen:

    People pay 3600, and this becomes the price.

    People don't pay 3600, but do pay 2500, so that becomes the price. 

    Hardly anyone buys any of them. This could lead to a cheaper option, but would likely lead to the scheme being abandoned as value for money is a low priority on the Dev end.

    There is also an incredibly stupid 4th option I was going to leave off, but we're talking about D3 here. Both price brackets are a modest success showing a small spike in HP sales, so they add a new higher HP price for everyone.

    *Removed insult - Ducky
  • mpqr7
    mpqr7 Posts: 2,642 Chairperson of the Boards
    Diarchos said:
    tinykitty sale got worst  Day 02:



    HB red + 8 elites + 10k iso + 3cp

    3600HP

    Got the same deal. Don't need the red HB cover and even if it would have been black or blue I would definitely never buy it for 3600 HP. The most tinykitty deal ever!
    It's the exact same terrible deal for me as well. So one champion level, eight 2*s and some tiny iso and cp. If one champion level for HB gave me 4000 HP, then it would be worth it. But since a single champion level only gives me at most around 100 HP, then that's a net loss of 3500 HP.

    I don't even barely use most of the 4*s these days, so adding a champion level isn't worth it for me. If the vault gave a 5* cover, then...
  • veny
    veny Posts: 834 Critical Contributor
    edited April 2017
    Different prices for diffent players are discriminating no matter what (unless its tied to taxes, special discounts etc. which i doubt).

    Anyway, seems they removed 3*s completely and without decreasing the price, they offer one 4*, 8 elite tokens plus some ISO and CPs - what an "improvement" XD
  • ejm04
    ejm04 Posts: 47 Just Dropped In

    mpqr7 said:
    Diarchos said:
    tinykitty sale got worst  Day 02:



    HB red + 8 elites + 10k iso + 3cp

    3600HP

    Got the same deal. Don't need the red HB cover and even if it would have been black or blue I would definitely never buy it for 3600 HP. The most tinykitty deal ever!
    It's the exact same terrible deal for me as well. So one champion level, eight 2*s and some tiny iso and cp. If one champion level for HB gave me 4000 HP, then it would be worth it. But since a single champion level only gives me at most around 100 HP, then that's a net loss of 3500 HP.

    I don't even barely use most of the 4*s these days, so adding a champion level isn't worth it for me. If the vault gave a 5* cover, then...

    It's not for everyone. It's for people who are either a) building their 4* rosters or b) finishing Behemoth Burrito teams (although that seems like a terrible trade). The crazy thing is, the people this benefits the most are the least likely to have the HP to spend on it. The people with HP to spend probably don't need much by way of 4* covers or elite tokens.