New Store - Heroes for Hire (4/11/17)

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  • Yoik
    Yoik Posts: 251 Mover and Shaker

    I feel a little like a mini Pariah as I took the offer. Shield rank 93 , playing 1209 days. I am not a whale.

     

    The offer I was offered was for a Blue Danny Rand, a few 3 stars some cp and 10k iso for 3,600. I’ve only recently started shield hopping again in PVP due to an increase in my alliance PVP mins so I have a surplus of HP. So I brought the offer. With a few champ levels from the tokens and what I sold that was unusable I ended up with more then 15k iso and a blue danny cover I needed. Pricey but not too world ending.

     

    The next 5 or 6 offers I have( HB, Med, WM, Wasp, SL, MK ) are all 3600 hp but are only 1 cover, 3 cp and 10k iso. I won’t be making this purchase regularly. I think I would only ever do it if in the same position of surplus HP. I wont do it if I already have them champed e.g. ( HB, Med, WM, Wasp, SL, MK )

     

    I think 3,600 is too pricey however. 2,500 for a cover you need and a bit of iso is fine ………..but only just and only every now and then.

     

    My mate has the 2,500 offer with less rewards. Lots of varying offers in my alliance too.

     

    I think the price of the offers should be contested however, especially how it has been implemented, as there does not seem to be any rhyme or reason for the differences in the offers.

  • ejm04
    ejm04 Posts: 47 Just Dropped In
    If each store came with set 3*s instead of elite tokens, I would consider purchasing this occasionally. But not at 3600hp.
  • astrp3
    astrp3 Posts: 367 Mover and Shaker
    Qubort said:
    This is the bigger problem. Why is something rolled out with zero explanation? Why are we guessing the numerous different offers?

    Yeah. I am curious to see if people who got one offer will get a different one tomorrow or if they are stuck with the one they got forever (or, if this is a marketing test, until they settle on one). If the latter, I'm sure those who got the 3600 offer will be even more upset (at least the ones who know that others are getting a different offer).
  • Alkyoneus
    Alkyoneus Posts: 116 Tile Toppler
    I'm really confused as to why there are 2 prices being offered players. I can absolutely understand offering 2500hp for a single character cover, this takes us back to before champions and CP were introduced and you could direct purchase a cover on your character for that amount. There's historical evidence to back up that price. But why offer that price to some people and 3600hp for the same thing to other people? This is so completely wacky nunu that I can't even wrap my head around it. In the past they offered store vs. vault for players when they first offered that gimmick, but trying to get certain people (VIP players, nonetheless!) to pay more for the exact same item is something I expect from the Trump administration!

    Come on, guys! Can you please take a step back before implementing new things in the game and actually make sure you know what you're doing? Between vaulting characters, nerfing Old Man Logan, threatening to end the cover swap program for Latest Legends, threatening to nerf the Taco store, and now this you're really not running a tight ship here.
  • DesertTortoise
    DesertTortoise Posts: 392 Mover and Shaker
    edited April 2017
    Alkyoneus said:
    But why offer that price to some people and 3600hp for the same thing to other people? 
    I don't think it's a good thing there are two different price points for two different offers, but they are not being provided the exact same thing for different costs. The 2500 HP packages and 3600 HP packages have different iso, CP and tokens. I'm not saying that's worth it, that's up to the players, but it's silly that we were randomly given the differently priced packages. 
  • UNC_Samurai
    UNC_Samurai Posts: 402 Mover and Shaker
    ejm04 said:
    If each store came with set 3*s instead of elite tokens, I would consider purchasing this occasionally. But not at 3600hp.
     I'd rather have the elites, because it's ultimately worth a few more XP,  and you have a chance at a bonus hero with the tokens.
  • Killians8
    Killians8 Posts: 134 Tile Toppler
    edited April 2017
    Just adding my info for the data collectors out there. I'm rank 66 and see a 2500HP price. Also, only the first cover of a blue Danny Rand includes 4 3* covers, 4000 iso, and 1 CP. The other fours include 4 Elite tokens, 4000 iso, and 1 CP.
  • Starfury
    Starfury Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    mohio said:
    Alky you don't quite have your facts straight. The increased price is for additional "goods". For the additional 1100 hp you are getting an extra 4 elite tokens, 2 cp, and 6000 iso. We can debate what all of that should be worth, maybe 1100 hp is far too much, but it's not simply more hp for the same thing.
    Technically correct, but when we're honest, noone would consider buying the pack for the other stuff.
    You're buying it for THAT 4*
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    DesertTortoise said:
    MirrorKnight said:
    My fervent hope is that the devs don't think this is a valid replacement for the DDQ vault.
    I like this addition, but not if it's just so they can take something else away.
    I view it as a replacement to the 3600 HP weekly character vaults. 

    Honestly if it is that, I see it as a better deal than those, especially at the 2000 HP mark.  Still not great, but I'd do this before those (unless they added a 1 pull option)
  • Wonko33
    Wonko33 Posts: 985 Critical Contributor
    Qubort said:
    Wonko33 said:
    I don't get all the complaining; they did not change game mechanics, did not nerf a character you invested in or anything. It's just a store item, you like it "buy",  you don't like it "don't buy". 

    A lot of stuff is legitimate complaints; vaulting, bugs and OML nerf to name a few,  but bringing up those things in every single thread makes us sound like a bunch of whinny little B...s and it's making this forum toxic and unreadable

    On top of it it's kind of a cool store too, completely different concept, tied to a featured character of that day, why not?




    Because I have alliance mates it costs them 2500 but mine is 3600. Also, some people have the choice of 4 star while I only have one option.
    yes that's the odd part about it. I think if they wanted to have better demographics they should have made both available to everyone and see which one we choose, ( remove both stores when one is purchased). That would really tell them which one people prefer
  • ejm04
    ejm04 Posts: 47 Just Dropped In
    UNC_Samurai said:
    ejm04 said:
    If each store came with set 3*s instead of elite tokens, I would consider purchasing this occasionally. But not at 3600hp.
     I'd rather have the elites, because it's ultimately worth a few more XP,  and you have a chance at a bonus hero with the tokens.

    But if the 3* have even one you need, it's better than 4 elites which will likely just give you 4 2*.
  • jgomes32
    jgomes32 Posts: 381 Mover and Shaker
    edited April 2017
    The offer i have is nice, 2500hp, actually even tempting.I have 7k HP (free player since day one) and my only hp expense is shields and i break even during the event anyway. But when i think about it there's no point really... Danny is at 3/3/4, i'm still 150k iso short on Medusa and after that i'm starting Carol. By the time i open classics in roughly 2 weeks he will likely get fully covered anyway.

    Point being, i have no rush to go out of my way to buy covers when i can barely keep up with my champ schedule from PvP and PvE placement/progression covers.
  • DesertTortoise
    DesertTortoise Posts: 392 Mover and Shaker
    broll said:
    DesertTortoise said:
    MirrorKnight said:
    My fervent hope is that the devs don't think this is a valid replacement for the DDQ vault.
    I like this addition, but not if it's just so they can take something else away.
    I view it as a replacement to the 3600 HP weekly character vaults. 

    Honestly if it is that, I see it as a better deal than those, especially at the 2000 HP mark.  Still not great, but I'd do this before those (unless they added a 1 pull option)
    Yeah, I feel the same. At the 2,500 HP price point, I'll happily spend on a specific cover I need. At 3,600 HP it was a bit more than I felt comfortable spending. 
  • Nepenthe
    Nepenthe Posts: 283 Mover and Shaker
    My offer is 2500 hp for: Blue Iron Fist, 4 3* covers, 4000 iso, and 1 cp.
    I think that pricing is pretty reasonable. If the 4* cover was one I wanted/needed, like maybe a yellow Coulson, I'd consider the purchase. (With earned HP only, I'm not spending money on this game until it gets less buggy and other issues are addressed.)
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2017
    All my offers are 3600HP : a 4* + 8 Elites + 10k iso + 3CP  (Heroes has 4 3* and 4 Elites)
    (Heroes, IMHB, Medusa, WarM, Wasp, GR, SL, MoonK)

    This one is a bit overpriced, 10k iso is cool, but it is too much (again much better value to spend 100$ on this than buying iso :P). 3k HP would be fair.

    The 2500HP I think is better, I would prefer to have that one.
  • Starfury
    Starfury Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    mohio said:

    Just one last thing - one of the (imo valid) complaints about the vaulting of older 4* was that it was unfair to newer players in regards to the DDQ nodes behemoth burrito and crash of the titans. This doesn't help much with the crash node, but this is a direct solution to the behemoth burrito issue people were complaining about. Yet one more thing overlooked in your criticisms.

    tl;dr - Feel free to say this isn't for you, but think some before you outright claim it's terrible and no one should ever buy it.
    This is absolutely correct, this store is a way to avoid the problem of required characters in DDQ by spending money. And from that perspective, the store is a good thing. (it can't be a bad thing, because if you don't buy, there's no impact on you whatsoever. So at worst it's a non-factor)

    The reactions in this thread are about three ongoing problems
    1. The store is being rolled out amateurishly with different people getting different pricetags for nearly the same product.
    2. People don't feel purchases in this game offer reasonable value for money (I totallly agree)
    3. it's been quite a long time since the last change that was received positively (revamped DDQ, unless I'm forgetting something) Since then, every new announcement was met with mixed reactions at best. Add to that several bugs that severely impact many aspects of gameplay/balance (cd doing damage, bug with wave nodes, many powers double-dipping strike tiles) that went unsolved for three patches and you've got a really bad time to release any new idea you want to (literally) sell.
  • Justice Jacks
    Justice Jacks Posts: 116 Tile Toppler
    Gari said:
    Quebbster said:
    Justice Jacks said:
    Why on earth would I buy anything in this game anymore when the devs have proven they'll just alter anything of any use and offer pennies on the dollar thereafter?  No more nonsense. No more ducking player feedback. It's just mind numbing how badly D3 has missed the mark at this point. 

    Over 1k days in this far, and I'm gonna give them 30 more to fix this major mistake or I'm outtie 5000. 

    If you don't like the offer, just vote with your wallet and don't buy it.
    Er, theres no proof that he even put in any money to begin with? 
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    You must be new around here. For those that actually pay, there's plenty of proof as we've been in many buys together. Not a whale, certainly, but not insignificant either.  And even if I were insignificant individually, I am certainly not alone in this thinking.  In fact, I know players that have gotten their spend from the last 90 days back for this change from Apple (and others I believe as well, though can't confirm that at the moment). 

    Appears to be a clear violation under most platform's TOS. This is no different than if a user bought a Beetles song on iTunes and thereafter the developers took away the original and gave you a remix version sung by 5 year olds. 

    For those that were given the initial song for free, there's no TOS issue. But for those of us that have paid (even if only for a random chance at one of the best songs available) . . .

    But no need to continue this discussion here. The point was already made. 
  • Steellatch
    Steellatch Posts: 86 Match Maker
    I am SL77 with the 2500 offer. I don't mind the price as its a easy buy if its a hero that 2 colors at 5 and the store has the missing color. But it needs to have a bit more ios. the amount of ios offered wont do a dent in training the hero. But other than that. 2500 for a cover, more iso, a couple elite tokens and a cp, sure why not. 

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