Is this a mistake? (1.10.2 cost of entering TotP, new packs)

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  • Sorin81
    Sorin81 Posts: 558 Critical Contributor
    Hey devs,

    See all the names at the bottom of the screen telling you who's on and reading this thread? I rarely see this many people at one time.
    I guarantee that most of them aren't here because they are happy.
  • Monkeynutts
    Monkeynutts Posts: 566 Critical Contributor
    Ummmm anyone just get 100 jewels in their inbox???
  • UweTellkampf
    UweTellkampf Posts: 376 Mover and Shaker
    Monkeynutts wrote:
    Ummmm anyone just get 100 jewels in their inbox???

    "Maybe that will calm them down a bit."
  • Sorin81
    Sorin81 Posts: 558 Critical Contributor
    Yep. Not worth much imo.

    What am I going to do with 100 iso8.png ?
  • Flaricus
    Flaricus Posts: 102 Tile Toppler
    Ya, just got the 100 with a thanks for playing. This was a start in my opinion, but still doesnt help too much. I cant in good conscience buy a pack for 50 bucks for the iso8.png knowing that I have a 50/50 chance of getting a dupe of a mythic I already have.....
  • killwind
    killwind Posts: 116 Tile Toppler
    I have paid my 60 Crystal. I cant wait to see all of you guys in this event!
  • MightyKrakyn
    MightyKrakyn Posts: 64
    edited March 2017
    Monkeynutts wrote:
    Ummmm anyone just get 100 jewels in their inbox???

    Sure did! Now I only have to do 8 weeks of battles to get a single Masterpiece purchase unless I drop $40 on what amounts to less than one of the old BBs!

    I refuse to let these changes normalize. They have decreased the value of purchases and then increased the incentive to purchase at the same time. Why couldn't they increase the incentive to purchase AND increase the value of our money? Those two things are not mutually exclusive!

    The publisher seems to be going to Apple route, where they're banking on loyalty to keep higher sales for less going, but Apples iPhones are driven by status. Status only goes so far in a digital card game. Apple has mass appeal, you have who you have, which is a mix of randos. You'd be better off with the McDonald's approach of more value equaling more customers making purchases instead of solely relying on whales. You won't see the McDonald's crowd start paying with this update. You'll see them leave.
  • andrewvanmarle
    andrewvanmarle Posts: 978 Critical Contributor
    @brigby, just like Alve, you're a nice person with nothing to do about this other than keeping our language clean. Please dont inbolve yourself too much since the outcry is not meant for you and i dont want you to get targeted.

    That aside: devs are you off your rocker!?

    Remember a year ago when we could buy 1150 gem big boxes with a guaranteed mythic of a certain color?

    This at platinum level costs 1300 gems for the chance, nothing more, to earn a single mythic without any of the 70 other cards.
    And even the there is the chance to catch a dupe! The idea was less dupes wasn't it??

    The announcement implied ONE mythic in rotation giving you the choice to spend or not.

    And ornitbopter should be removed, especially now

    This and the more expensive (per card) big boxes are an affront!!!
  • losdamianos
    losdamianos Posts: 429 Mover and Shaker
    MightyKrakyn wrote:
    unless I drop $40
    Bingo!!!!
  • Sorin81
    Sorin81 Posts: 558 Critical Contributor
    killwind wrote:
    I have paid my 60 Crystal. I cant wait to see all of you guys in this event!

    I think you may be a little lonely.
  • Azerack
    Azerack Posts: 501 Critical Contributor
    Agree with above. I'm Gold Tier and the draw for the Masterpiece/Mana Jewels doesn't really seem viable to me when I could save up the crystals and just try to get masterpieces in the Kaladesh decks and at least I would have something more to show for it (even if it's a dupe rare, which I got, this morning with a Premium pack's "guaranteed rare" icon_e_wink.gif ).
    I was hoping you could at least get crystals AND jewels in the events or have other events cover the cost, but nope.
    Oddly, this DOES feel like PTW for me because you will need to spend a lot of crystals for the events JUST FOR A CHANCE to get jewels, since the nodes don't refresh so if the AI happens to get a lucky cascade and you get all "support" (not actual support cards, you understand) cards in the first few rounds, you're already done and out 60 crystals.

    I read in one post that 60 crystal cost was for the whole week? or is it JUST for this one day? Too expensive for my tastes if it's the latter. icon_e_sad.gif

    EDIT: Aheh... okay, so I just saw you are giving us 100 jewels to start... Neat, but we still need 300.. more.. for one attempt.. Going by MTG_Mage's math, that's still quite a ways off..
    Oh, but wait, if I buy the Mythic card exclusive for $39.99 USD and the EPIC starter pack for another $39.99, why I can get a chance at a Masterpiece right now!...
    @MTG_Mage, what was that you were saying about it not being PTW? icon_e_wink.gif

    (Man, I really need to start trying to be more positive... icon_e_confused.gif )
  • Amadeus
    Amadeus Posts: 57 Match Maker
    If the point of this was to turn off your player base bravo!
  • Yvendros
    Yvendros Posts: 202 Tile Toppler
    As far as making money for the devs: I have a couple other games I play. And I've dropped a fair amount of money on them. Because the IAP's are small! I don't miss a dollar here or there, and so I keep spending a dollar at a time. I think this is your ticket to making more money. I know I would've spent $0.99 way more times than $30 once.
  • Ampmp11
    Ampmp11 Posts: 77 Match Maker
    I was very excited for a new event. The payouts on the other hand have left me feeling wanting more.

    Don't add scrub mythics to the masterpiece packs. I can't imagine how bad it will feel when spending 400 mana jewels to get a dupe or thornopters or whatever its called. Like I'm going into depression sadness for wasting however many crystals it will take to get 400 mana jewels, let alone time investment. Just thinking about it makes me nauseated.

    Definitely excited for the event though. Payouts though needs to be reconfigured.
  • rafalele
    rafalele Posts: 876 Critical Contributor
    I think this it not a mistake I think it is a real error.

    I don't like these new events where you have to spend cristals just to play three times in a day with only one color allowed.

    Last day I spent 600 cristals in 15 boosters (yes, and old fat pack). No mythic in them and no interesting card for me, I have not included any in my decks. What can I get in a single Booster?

    If I start today to play would be impossible to get were I am now. If the game were like this when I started to play I would have gone long ago.

    To be interesting (many different opponents) the game needs people that pay to play and also people who play for free. The way this game is going (new jewels, not fat packs, paying cristals to play not enough interesting events...) makes it impossible for new ones and will loose many old players.

    D3go are you there? Listen to us, we DON'T LIKE this way.
  • Yvendros
    Yvendros Posts: 202 Tile Toppler
    I would have nothing to complain about if personal rewards for ALL events topped off with 10 iso8.png instead of a pack. Maybe 20. icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • AettThorn
    AettThorn Posts: 125
    This change, along with the increased size of the game (it now takes up over a gig of memory on my phone) are pushing me away quite quickly. Almost sorry that I bought Baral and wasted that $30 if I leave.
  • Ampmp11
    Ampmp11 Posts: 77 Match Maker
    Azerack wrote:
    Agree with above. I'm Gold Tier and the draw for the Masterpiece/Mana Jewels doesn't really seem viable to me when I could save up the crystals and just try to get masterpieces in the Kaladesh decks and at least I would have something more to show for it (even if it's a dupe rare, which I got, this morning with a Premium pack's "guaranteed rare" icon_e_wink.gif ).
    I was hoping you could at least get crystals AND jewels in the events or have other events cover the cost, but nope.
    Oddly, this DOES feel like PTW for me because you will need to spend a lot of crystals for the events JUST FOR A CHANCE to get jewels, since the nodes don't refresh so if the AI happens to get a lucky cascade and you get all "support" (not actual support cards, you understand) cards in the first few rounds, you're already done and out 60 crystals.

    I read in one post that 60 crystal cost was for the whole week? or is it JUST for this one day? Too expensive for my tastes if it's the latter. icon_e_sad.gif

    EDIT: Aheh... okay, so I just saw you are giving us 100 jewels to start... Neat, but we still need 300.. more.. for one attempt.. Going by MTG_Mage's math, that's still quite a ways off..
    Oh, but wait, if I buy the Mythic card exclusive for $39.99 USD and the EPIC starter pack for another $39.99, why I can get a chance at a Masterpiece right now!...
    @MTG_Mage, what was that you were saying about it not being PTW? icon_e_wink.gif

    (Man, I really need to start trying to be more positive... icon_e_confused.gif )

    They should have at least started out with the good masterpiece cards so that some of the whales would've bit on the gamble ...
  • Dropspot
    Dropspot Posts: 200 Tile Toppler
    I am really sad with this update.

    When I read the pre-release I imagined that things were going to get worst for players. But I didn't think they were going to go this far.

    The new event is the worst value for your cristals. Even at higher tiers the prizes don't worth the money.

    If it was only the new event, it was OK. But no, at the same time they started charging for events, they reduced the prizes of the old events (look at the current OGW in silver it was 60 cristals + 3 boosters, now is 35 cristals + 2 boosters + 1 basic) and reduced the amount of cards you earn buying packs.

    Really this game was already a great time consuming in my life. And probably for everyone else ( I heard the demographic is heavy on 25-35 males with children). But OK it was fun and rewarding. But now it seems that tow they are charging is becoming a little bit to much. There must be other kind of game as challenging and rewarding as this out there.

    I really hope they reconsider all the changes they made. I feel that I am not the only one that is starting to consider quiting this game. And that is very sad, because I really liked this game.
  • MTG_Mage
    MTG_Mage Posts: 224 Tile Toppler
    Azerack wrote:
    I read in one post that 60 crystal cost was for the whole week? or is it JUST for this one day? Too expensive for my tastes if it's the latter. icon_e_sad.gif
    good point, how long does this event last? Does that make it so you can only get 3/5/8/16 mana jewels PER WEEK or per day at the cost of losing 50 crystals..and thats assuming you go the distance and get max rewards.

    Max daily rate it should be at least 10/15/20/25 plus a minimum of 60 crystals AND the cost per pack should be dropped to 300 or less (please read this whole line carefully)

    @Devs you can still do something about this since the events have not started yet and its not really possible for anyone to buy the packs at 400 (technically if someone is crazy enough to spend $55 x 2 plus the 100 free they could have got one pack, but those few can just put in a ticket to get reimbursed). The 100 jewel gift does nothing for the long term and that must be addressed.

    Please change the numbers before the event goes live or a lot of people are going to be very upset (I have never seen over 30 people browsing the general forum at once until today!)

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