ISIS DANGER ZONE!

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  • Unknown
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    V1rusHunter wrote:
    Red5StandingBy wrote:
    What is true healing? icon_question.gif
    viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10237

    true healing is going to prevent grinding in pve, because it "nerfes" group healing by OBW and spidey. It will make things very difficult in pvp for ppl playing with a 2* roster. It doent affect ppl with 3* rosters that much (but its still really tinykitty for pve ).
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    _hiddles_ wrote:
    V1rusHunter wrote:
    Red5StandingBy wrote:
    What is true healing? icon_question.gif
    viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10237

    true healing is going to prevent grinding in pve, because it "nerfes" group healing by OBW and spidey. It will make things very difficult in pvp for ppl playing with a 2* roster. It doent affect ppl with 3* rosters that much (but its still really tinykitty for pve ).

    More reason why we will be skipping PvE in the future.
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    It appears that suiciding allows the person to retal you. So far only one person. But I had only a small set with which I suicided. Will track in next PvP too.
  • Unknown
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    I'm pushing the PvE, but I don't expect to do better than 50th in my bracket, it's pretty competetive. And I'm pushing in the PvP as well for top 25. I have no life you guys. =/
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    Bamboomancer wrote:
    I'm pushing the PvE, but I don't expect to do better than 50th in my bracket, it's pretty competetive. And I'm pushing in the PvP as well for top 25. I have no life you guys. =/

    I don't expect us to get the alliance reward. Right now only playing the 6 highest nodes when I get time. Do it for the ISO and because it's fun to use different characters.

    Don't forget to get some vitamin D. Go outside and play MPQ! icon_e_smile.gif
  • Unknown
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    Ugh, I played the event for a bit today until my Thor and Storm died. No healing, no board manipulation, no quick kills, no anti-countdown measures. It was not fun at all and plus I had to rely on Thor who I now use in all my PvPs. Not sure how much will - or ability, even - I have to grind this one.
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    cyrus386 wrote:
    Ugh, I played the event for a bit today until my Thor and Storm died. No healing, no board manipulation, no quick kills, no anti-countdown measures. It was not fun at all and plus I had to rely on Thor who I now use in all my PvPs. Not sure how much will - or ability, even - I have to grind this one.

    You're talking about PvE? Yeah. It sucks. I wouldn't worry about it.
  • Unknown
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    You guys following the true healing discussion? This might be the nail in the coffin for me.

    viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10239
  • Unknown
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    Hmm. Well I guess Daredevil rewards mean I can sit this PvP out too and see if my motivation to play comes back by the end of the week...
  • Unknown
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    Just wanted to type up a bit of what I've been thinking, especially regarding some of the discussion we've been having.

    I get that we're only making SOME PvP's "Mandatory" but I think that there can and should be a minimum for all PvPs, as well as a minimum for 'required' PvP. I don't think we need to be the hardest core alliance out there, but we're a strong group with good players and we can get stronger.

    My proposal would be to start low, an expectation of 300 points in a non-mandatory PvP. 300 points isn't hard to get, you won't get hit often because you're not worth much, and can be done in 10 matches or so towards the end of a PvP. This will also keep those users progressing, as it'll get them to their first token and possibly more covers, as well as the iso that comes with the matches.

    For Mandatory PvP, I think we should be requiring at least 600 points if not 700.

    This is just to kick start a discussion, so let's hear it. What do you guys think? Fears about this?

    ISIS is a good group, let's show the rest of them that we are.
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    Thank you for kicking off a good discussion topic. I'm interested in hearing what this group has to say.
  • Unknown
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    I like it. It is frustrating to see 0-100 points in anybody's total. Especially since we were on the cusp of top 100 season 3. I'm all in for this idea
  • wade66
    wade66 Posts: 212 Tile Toppler
    This was what Kinal brought up in chat last night and I agreed then as well. Getting to 300 over the course of 2.5 days requires may an hours worth of effort, which is about 20 minutes a day. It shows you are there to hell us as we are helping you, and you aren't here just for an eash ride to awards you don't want to work towards yourself.
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    I'll opine after US wins its match against Germany. I haven't heard a counter argument yet or the one point I wanted to bring up.
  • wade66
    wade66 Posts: 212 Tile Toppler
    Does that mean we have to wait until the next world cup if Germany wins? icon_e_surprised.gif
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    wade66 wrote:
    Does that mean we have to wait until the next world cup if Germany wins? icon_e_surprised.gif

    Yup! Ha ha. Looks like there is flash flooding for US match so if that's the case, will provide it sooner.
  • Unknown
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    Ok... so... f this whole true healing stuff =/

    I don't have enough 3* covers to be useful, and i can no longer heal out pvp to keep up points. This makes me a sadddddd panda.
  • V1rusHunter
    V1rusHunter Posts: 201 Tile Toppler
    wade66 wrote:
    This was what Kinal brought up in chat last night and I agreed then as well. Getting to 300 over the course of 2.5 days requires may an hours worth of effort, which is about 20 minutes a day. It shows you are there to hell us as we are helping you, and you aren't here just for an eash ride to awards you don't want to work towards yourself.

    So here are my thoughts. I know we are trying to balance the fact that real life is necessary but we don't want any having free rides, especially when some of us are still trying to get good covers. So with this in mind here's what I'm recommending:

    1.) Our non-push PvPs have a 300 point minimum.
    1A.) Reason is as those voiced above that it's not hours of work but may 1-2 hours depending on roster strength. Even with true healing, I don't expect that any of us should have major difficulties. As our recruiting goes, we should all be roughly be in the transition to 3* more. And I have posted a tanking guide that should help if you are facing 141 covers (PM me if you need the link).
    1B.) If you aren't playing some of these non-pushing PvPs, it calls your drive to play this game. ISO is a premium in this game as well as cover chances. At 300 points, you give up one regular token, a heroic token, and about 840-1200 ISO (assumes 70-100 ISO for 12 matches at 25 points). To transition to 3*, you'll need free ISO every chance you get. Not obtaining the minimum reflects a different play style and drive.

    2.) I don't remember the bottom three scores of the last PvP push but I think it was between 300-500. I think the minim should be about 600 with the rosters we are having. I saw a lot of people in the 700s so that was good but to be worried about getting a cover if we have laggards, that won't be good. Let's aim for 600, and if anyone has serious concerns about making this, please reach out to me so I can understand what factors are preventing this from being achievable.

    Objections anyone?
  • Unknown
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    Here Here! Looks good to me.
  • Unknown
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    I agree on the minimum 300, although it's hard to tell what a reasonable score is going to be for a required push given the changes to healing. I used to be able to play when I had time for as long as I had time, now that's not the case; I can play a handful of matches when I have time assuming enemy cascades are relatively tame, if not then I'm able to play even less.

    I dunno, I'm feeling a bit discouraged about the state of the game now. Blah.

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