Simulator Basics part 2: Electric Boogaloo (Mar 21-30)

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  • Bacon Pants
    Bacon Pants Posts: 1,012
    Ghast wrote:
    Broke 150,000 just now. I pumped Black Panther up to his soft cap level 89 now that I have four black covers for him, so that helped. He just languidly leans over from his tree branch and swats all of my enemies for 3500+.

    He's crepuscular!

    You better be an Archer fan.
  • Unknown
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    Ghast wrote:
    Broke 150,000 just now. I pumped Black Panther up to his soft cap level 89 now that I have four black covers for him, so that helped. He just languidly leans over from his tree branch and swats all of my enemies for 3500+.

    He's crepuscular!

    His black skill was a "kill entire enemy team" button when I went through the first time, and I just have it at 3 covers. He's a monster boosted. And I"m developing an appreciation for his other two skills.
  • Unknown
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    Bacon Pants wrote:
    Ghast wrote:
    Broke 150,000 just now. I pumped Black Panther up to his soft cap level 89 now that I have four black covers for him, so that helped. He just languidly leans over from his tree branch and swats all of my enemies for 3500+.

    He's crepuscular!

    You better be an Archer fan.

    I went to a live table reading/ Q&A in San Francisco before season 4 premiered. Lucky Yates shot me with a t-shirt cannon.
  • Bacon Pants
    Bacon Pants Posts: 1,012
    Ghast wrote:
    Bacon Pants wrote:
    Ghast wrote:
    Broke 150,000 just now. I pumped Black Panther up to his soft cap level 89 now that I have four black covers for him, so that helped. He just languidly leans over from his tree branch and swats all of my enemies for 3500+.

    He's crepuscular!

    You better be an Archer fan.

    I went to a live table reading/ Q&A in San Francisco before season 4 premiered. Lucky Yates shot me with a t-shirt cannon.

    Yup, I'm jel.

    That's awesome. I usually have it on in the background while I play.
  • Unknown
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    Ben Grimm wrote:
    His black skill was a "kill entire enemy team" button when I went through the first time, and I just have it at 3 covers. He's a monster boosted. And I"m developing an appreciation for his other two skills.

    How is that possible? Share your revelations!

    I cant stand the other two skills, I think they are complete garbage and unplayable. I prefer Loki's purple because it does something sometimes, maybe.
  • Nemek
    Nemek Posts: 1,511
    Eddiemon wrote:
    For those who care about such things, I did the math last night and rubberbanding seems to kick in at about 1900 and you hit 10x bonus at about 19,000 behind. The actual figure I was getting seemed to be about 1870.

    The reason the number is inaccurate is that I cannot see the global leader, so I had to calculate it by looking at the score for a known mission and calculating its multiplier. Then I completed a different mission and calculated the points multiplier for the new score for that known mission. The ratio of difference between my scores and the multiplier gave me the rough number.

    While I was doing the testing I believe the global leader may have been increaseing their score, because I never got a consistant result, but they were all in the 1870 ballpark.

    I also only did this testing on hard mode, so easy mode may use different numbers.

    That seems...high. Did you base it off just a single simulator (either easy or hard) or on the main? I'd think 19K is close to top scores out there in an individual simulator (I haven't actually started, so I don't know)...
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Chimaera wrote:
    Ben Grimm wrote:
    His black skill was a "kill entire enemy team" button when I went through the first time, and I just have it at 3 covers. He's a monster boosted. And I"m developing an appreciation for his other two skills.

    How is that possible? Share your revelations!

    I cant stand the other two skills, I think they are complete garbage and unplayable. I prefer Loki's purple because it does something sometimes, maybe.

    The problem both of them have is that they're easy to take out, but they're cheap, and when they work (and aren't in a vulnerable place) they work well. I've been using them since I've hesitant to use Sunder and I don't have any more blue skills (I"m using BP/Ares/Hood) and they've been handy a few times. I think the trick is making sure there aren't any ready matches for the colors before placing them. Almost every time there's a ready match they get placed on it.
  • Unknown
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    I love Sunder, especially with intimidation. You know what you are getting, and it is probably a downed opponent.

    I think the main problem I have with his yellow is that there is no initial damage ala 2* Wolfie. He throws a tile down, sometimes screwing you out of needed environment tiles (mileage may vary) and they do not seem to have any impact. I don't even know the damage of the tiles to be honest because every time I use it it doesn't seem to make any difference during the match. Wolfie's/Daken's/Punisher's/Patche's...obviously, those tiles hurt. As a result id almost always rather Twin Pistol or Sunder, depending on team composition. The blue is pretty awful, even when I manage to land it in a corner out of danger it somehow always gets destroyed. Like a law of nature. So no idea how much it actually prevents, its hard to get going unlike other damage prevention tiles of other covers. I don't consider either ability to be that cheap though, 9/8 each for low impact non immediate destroyable effects, not really thrilled.

    I think it is telling that I used Psylocke in literally every game in round one, I hate her blue too but the black was insane and the red worked well with her black when I desired. Doom I used on most nodes, he was beefy and got work done when I wanted him too. BP I generally only use on his required nodes barring unreasonable roster restrictions on the enemy team making him a better choice being boosted so high. My BP is 2/2/3 at maxed 64, I guess it could change but not feeling him. I also don't really want to push Psylocke higher than the 89 shes at, also capped at 2/2/5.

    I have issues putting large amount of ISO into covers that don't have three good powers. I want covers on my team that make me want to make matches to fire off their abilities. When I see myself knowingly avoiding Blue and Yellow for Psylocke and BP I know there's a problem long term for their usability.
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    daveomite wrote:

    I just think they really need to reevaluate that whole situation as it just seems like some overlapping requirements, if you want to keep scaling manageable, don't play any matches. If you want to grind to get all the rewards, prepare to not be able to win numerous nodes due to scaling.

    It isn't overlapping requirements. It's called choice.

    The ideal path is you play the matches to get enough points to win the tournament, and all the mission rewards you get are lucky bonuses. That is the design. With ISO 20 in there you won't get every bonus from every mission if you just play to win. That is how it is intended to work.

    Now if you choose to try and grind out every bonus like it is mandatory, well that is your choice but nobody is forcing it on you. You will have to play more matches than are required and so your scaling will be negatively affected. But you are not required to play like this. It gives you no real advantage in the event and the regular ISO 20 rewards will annoy you no end. But you are not prevented from chasing this dream if you so choose.
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    Chimaera wrote:
    Ben Grimm wrote:
    His black skill was a "kill entire enemy team" button when I went through the first time, and I just have it at 3 covers. He's a monster boosted. And I"m developing an appreciation for his other two skills.

    How is that possible? Share your revelations!

    I cant stand the other two skills, I think they are complete garbage and unplayable. I prefer Loki's purple because it does something sometimes, maybe.

    Play a mission in Latveria..
    Wait for the AI player to use environmental tiles.
    Say 'you call that a knife'?
    Pop his yellow ability.

    There are only 2-3 environments with useful tiles. Jungle, desert and maybe lab. The others are pure poverty and candidates for strike tiling.
  • Unknown
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    Eddiemon wrote:
    Play a mission in Latveria..
    Wait for the AI player to use environmental tiles.
    Say 'you call that a knife'?
    Pop his yellow ability.

    There are only 2-3 environments with useful tiles. Jungle, desert and maybe lab. The others are pure poverty and candidates for strike tiling.

    Comparing a toothpick with a butter knife isn't ideal. Id rather have a Machete or a Katana.

    Collecting yellow for BP just doesn't win me games dunno man. Just make it do some initial damage like Psychic Knives, or change the animation for him to tell me how great of a person I am or how good I look in that dress today, I may like it more.
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    Chimaera wrote:
    Eddiemon wrote:
    Play a mission in Latveria..
    Wait for the AI player to use environmental tiles.
    Say 'you call that a knife'?
    Pop his yellow ability.

    There are only 2-3 environments with useful tiles. Jungle, desert and maybe lab. The others are pure poverty and candidates for strike tiling.

    Comparing a toothpick with a butter knife isn't ideal. Id rather have a Machete or a Katana.

    Collecting yellow for BP just doesn't win me games dunno man. Just make it do some initial damage like Psychic Knives, or change the animation for him to tell me how great of a person I am or how good I look in that dress today, I may like it more.

    I had one of the nodes where my Patch got instagibbed. I think it was Desert and IM40 red beamed him into dust. I had no other green users so I popped yellow. Getting 3 111 strike tiles isn't butter knife territory. It's definitely Punisher green territory.
  • Unknown
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    Eddiemon wrote:
    Chimaera wrote:
    Ben Grimm wrote:
    His black skill was a "kill entire enemy team" button when I went through the first time, and I just have it at 3 covers. He's a monster boosted. And I"m developing an appreciation for his other two skills.

    How is that possible? Share your revelations!

    I cant stand the other two skills, I think they are complete garbage and unplayable. I prefer Loki's purple because it does something sometimes, maybe.

    Play a mission in Latveria..
    Wait for the AI player to use environmental tiles.
    Say 'you call that a knife'?
    Pop his yellow ability.

    There are only 2-3 environments with useful tiles. Jungle, desert and maybe lab. The others are pure poverty and candidates for strike tiling.

    Eh. Snow is useful. It's a one turn stun that takes away AP. But what makes it shine is that its the easiest to get the second ability for. If you get at least one crit enviro match, it only takes a few more to get the second ability, which is obviously one of the best.
  • Unknown
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    Reminds me of one of my matches this morning same thing, think I retreated with one half health character though. What level's your BP and yellow cover? 111 is certainly decent. Requires so much more setup than Punisher though.
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    LoreNYC wrote:
    I thought so at first also as 2 of my 141s are punisher and patch. Then I just stuck 2* Mags with spiderman and relaxed. If I'm going to be fighting enemies near 200, I'll try to out-cheese their cheese.
    Yeah I also go Magneto MN often these days, good thing his purple covers are offered recently. Even at only 4 purple, he's the bee knees for Spidey.
    Eddiemon wrote:
    There are only 2-3 environments with useful tiles. Jungle, desert and maybe lab. The others are pure poverty and candidates for strike tiling.
    Winter is incredibly useful too. Both Winter abilities are very good and even achievable (since the fights are often long) and not completely broken like Desert.
  • Bacon Pants
    Bacon Pants Posts: 1,012
    I was able to get the second ability off in the desert today. Wow was that a fun moment.
  • fedlex20
    fedlex20 Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker
    Bacon Pants wrote:
    I was able to get the second ability off in the desert today. Wow was that a fun moment.

    By the time you get there its kind of overkill right?
  • fedlex20
    fedlex20 Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker
    Good ol' rubberbanding left me first for now

    RubberBandCatapult.jpg

    2 more refreshes to go, right?
  • Bacon Pants
    Bacon Pants Posts: 1,012
    ichijuan wrote:
    Bacon Pants wrote:
    I was able to get the second ability off in the desert today. Wow was that a fun moment.

    By the time you get there its kind of overkill right?

    Pretty much, Hawkeye and Criterion were already downed. It wiped out IM40 who had a little over 8000 health left. Welcomed Overkill.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    ichijuan wrote:
    By the time you get there its kind of overkill right?

    I find second WInter to be overkill too, but it's one of my favorite moments in the match when it goes off.

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