the scAvengers - [20/20] - You have Hulk. We have Phantron.

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Emeryt wrote:

Spider-man 6234 wrote:

Uh oh. I'm ahead of some scAvengers in the season standings.

@Emeryt: will you hate me forever if we place above you?

I see that in the end You were too afraid to check it

Good job anyway! Such a new alliance and top10 already! Gratz!

No I saw it just haven't been on here yet. Im happy that we placed top 10. Above scAvengers was just a personal little goal for me

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Isn't season running for several weeks yet? With shield training holding 2k potential per person the aggregate will be pretty meaningless even with 4 days left.

Also I doubt most of use hold any interest in season prizes beyond the Fury cover. So you're welcome to chase the hanging carrot

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My thoughts on the Alliance, reflecting on the poll.

I really joined up for the cool company and the prize expectation was just to get the 3rd cover -- compared to that we outperformed by enormous margin. And I have to say it was pretty cool to grab the top2 and top1 places and other goodies, outstanding job, everyone.

OTOH as the time passed many things changed. For one my roster improved over the level of much interest to go more ahead and more importantly the game itself failed us on about every area possible. So I don't think that rash is needed anymore, even it may be better to actively hold back to avoid burnout and save the spirit for times it might actually improve. (I don't expect it within a month time but may actually happen in 3, when most delayed effects start to kick in and D3 will reevaluate the situation).

For changing members I think it would be both rude and unfair to kick anyone, as we all contributed much to all the accomplishments. If someone is fed up enough with the game and have no plans really can be asked to leave voluntarily but that is the most.

Current PVE sucks and not worth the effort. PVP still stands but looks boring and the prizes are not interesting at all -- last few events I went for #11 as I needed only the lower color. The 2+ballast type tournaments became too similar and even playing with Mags kinda exhausted the fun. The season stuff looks no better really, the only thing in the whole prize structure that is marginally interesting is the Fury cover -- but even that will be probably redundant: if it is offered only in season, will not create any difference. If it becomes a regular prize elsewhere it will be easily obtained in short run. So no reason to get killed over it at all -- and I think we can get it even going on the back burner.

So I think for now it's best to preserve us for the future and avoid things that would overstretch us. Just as we stated before, if everyone just goes for whatever he thinks reasonable personally, the alliance aggregate will work out fine whatever the result is. I'm confident we will not fall out of the cover range that matters for some time and if we do it will have some really good reason -- and we can look at it at that time.

Also if someone is in actual need of the alliance cover and sees it in danger is welcome to send an alert here, guess most of us will be happy to apply some sweat if the result is actually enjoyed by someone we know. Otherwise selling good *** covers for 500 ISO I will not even spend for weeks still leaves me uneasy.

On chat Emeryt said he sent the poll in PM for better delivery so I see no reason to not discuss it here, we'll be better off if learn each others' view.

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Rumors say the retreat-tanking is either gone or seriously nerfed (like making one such loss count as one or a few passive losses rather than several). Not confirmed but plausible for LR and Shield. Possibly still good inside the same tournament.

In retrospect I'd say the last week matches were the result of clearing everyone's global MMR and by now it caught up.

As the base idea requires losses to work some form must count -- safe bet the passive tanking must work. (Impact of offensive full losses need data collected). I expect tank teams to start popping up and if you see one, rather than easy points consider it as chance to plant your tank team. Having the game running at tournament start so picking up the seed teams will have increased value too.

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pasa_ wrote:

As the base idea requires losses to work some form must count -- safe bet the passive tanking must work. (Impact of offensive full losses need data collected). I expect tank teams to start popping up and if you see one, rather than easy points consider it as chance to plant your tank team. Having the game running at tournament start so picking up the seed teams will have increased value too.

I've done some testing in that regard. Tank team set up around 150 points for half a dozen Lightning Rounds. Got hit very often, still no readily obvious change in the opponents I was matched up against. I'm not sure what the current matching formula is, win/loss ratio has a best a very insignificant part in it. I suspect it's your event score plus some fairly constant factor, maybe the sum of levels of the team with which you won the most recent fight. Would also explain why difficulty goes down for a single fight after tanking sessions.

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Moghwyn wrote:

I've done some testing in that regard. Tank team set up around 150 points for half a dozen Lightning Rounds. Got hit very often, still no readily obvious change in the opponents I was matched up against. I'm not sure what the current matching formula is, win/loss ratio has a best a very insignificant part in it. I suspect it's your event score plus some fairly constant factor, maybe the sum of levels of the team with which you won the most recent fight. Would also explain why difficulty goes down for a single fight after tanking sessions.

Someone just reported all-141 teams at 200 in doom. Though it may be an early-game artifact, maybe not the score itself counts but position on a global table.

I just entered doom and offers were similar level I last fought in loki (full-85s with a possible 1 120-ish). What more suggests global carryover.

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Emeryt wrote:

Hi there,
So it's almost 2 months now of this crazy Alliance stuff. We are doing great, much better than I would ever expect when together with Moghwyn we started the scAvengers. And, as I want everybody to be happy and satisfied, here's a couple of questions which I kindly ask You to answer. Hopefully based on the answers, we will be able to improve in any way necessary.

1. How do You find our place in rankings? You're satisfied with it? Don't care that much? Want us to achieve better places?

2. Did Your own in-game behaviour change in any way since You're in the alliance? If so - how?

3. Do You think we should improve by changing our members to better players?

4. What do You want (us) to focus more? PvE or PvP? Or should it be reward dependant?

Thanks for Your time,
Emeryt

1. I tap on event rewards, then alliance rank, then your rank. . I think we do very well. I''m happy as long as we''re getting the available cover.

2. At first i was a little obsessed with playing more than i should have, but it's curbed back some.

3. Only if there is someone not contributing at all on a regular basis. No one should ride on the coattails. If they miss and event here or there, no big deal if they're letting everyone know. But if they are only doing 1 fight a day just to reap the rewards, then maybe we should find a better fit.

4. I think it should be reward dependent. Also if someone is in need of a cover we should all pitch in.

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pasa_ wrote:

I just entered doom and offers were similar level I last fought in loki (full-85s with a possible 1 120-ish). What more suggests global carryover.

What's the level of your Loki and Doom?

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Moghwyn wrote:

pasa_ wrote:

I just entered doom and offers were similar level I last fought in loki (full-85s with a possible 1 120-ish). What more suggests global carryover.

What's the level of your Loki and Doom?

Loki 30, doom 51 before buff.

Phaserhawk

pasa_ wrote:

Rumors say the retreat-tanking is either gone or seriously nerfed (like making one such loss count as one or a few passive losses rather than several). Not confirmed but plausible for LR and Shield. Possibly still good inside the same tournament.

In retrospect I'd say the last week matches were the result of clearing everyone's global MMR and by now it caught up.

As the base idea requires losses to work some form must count -- safe bet the passive tanking must work. (Impact of offensive full losses need data collected). I expect tank teams to start popping up and if you see one, rather than easy points consider it as chance to plant your tank team. Having the game running at tournament start so picking up the seed teams will have increased value too.

I have kept my MMR relatively low with suicides. I have been using the SHIELD event as my death of choice. Basically I go in with 2* Thor, Ares, and 2* Wolverine, I just match enviro tiles or low dmg tiles to facilitate a faster match. Basically anybody with super high hit points that I don't use much I have die. With 2* wolvie I will match yellow to heal him to show even more health lost in a match. I do have a rule, if I get enough Enviro tiles to cast the full 250 tile portion I do that. I will use health packs to regen these guys and do it again. It takes longer but the rewards have been fantastic, I have kept my MMR very low, and have placed 1st 2 out of last 3 PvP's.

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I am so busy right now I can't find the time to play much anymore, definitely not competitively. I would rather bow out than drag the alliance down. I will still check the forums and if my schedule curbs down, I will be able to play more if a slot opens back up, but as is I just don't see myself being a consistent top finisher like before. If that sounds like the best idea for now, let me know if and when I should.

Either way I have had a blast. I have to admit I will regret missing out on that Nick Fury legendary, he looks awesome. That #2 placer last second finish when Emmy posted the "frakk yeah!!!" meme was one of the most exciting moments in gaming I have ever had!

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Sugarman wrote:

I am so busy right now I can't find the time to play much anymore, definitely not competitively. I would rather bow out than drag the alliance down. I will still check the forums and if my schedule curbs down, I will be able to play more if a slot opens back up, but as is I just don't see myself being a consistent top finisher like before. If that sounds like the best idea for now, let me know if and when I should.

Either way I have had a blast. I have to admit I will regret missing out on that Nick Fury legendary, he looks awesome. That #2 placer last second finish when Emmy posted the "frakk yeah!!!" meme was one of the most exciting moments in gaming I have ever had!

So far, from the replies I got, the scAvengers mostly want to stay in the current line-up. But on the other hard some said (and honestly I'm one of those) that if someone can't no longer play as hard as it used to be (for any reasons, RL being the most obvious. RL sucks in that matter ) and keeps on being on of the lowest ranked members, we should take into consideration that if not for that person, we would achieve better rewards tiers (obviously I'm not talking about top2 in PvP).

Dunno what others think, but I'd suggest You this - stay with us at least till the end of the Season 1, to get Yourself shiny Nick Cage. And then You'll see if Your RL allows You to play more or not. I'm not planning to kick anybody, but You have to be honest with Yourself and make the decision of either staying or leaving by Yourself.

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And now to all of the scAvengers:

You all are doing great. We constantly finish in top10 or in case of PvE even better. I want us to be competetive, but without going all hardcore. I'm not klingsor.
I think that if someone really enjoys this game, reads forums thus is up-to-date with current builds, tricks and tactics, and most importantly is dedicated (and shows it with His results), it's enough to be a valuable member of the scAvengers.

I don't expect You to be chatty, I'm fully aware that there are some lone wolves in our alliance. Just do Your part for the Alliance, so we could obtain good rewards. And sometimes we can try harder to be that one tier higher.

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Maybe we need a poll on Sugarman. I abstain, though would be happier with decision to keep him.

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He's already said it is difficult for him to play often. I think, because he has been a contributor, that we let him finish out season 1 and get the Nick Fury cover. Then if he still can't put in the time, we replace him.

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kevind722 wrote:

He's already said it is difficult for him to play often. I think, because he has been a contributor, that we let him finish out season 1 and get the Nick Fury cover. Then if he still can't put in the time, we replace him.

Sugarman is absent for a couple of days now. He hasn't logged on forums since monday, so he didn't even read my message to Him in this thread.

reingp just send a message that he might be absent for about a week. This puts us in a difficult situation of having two members not contributing in Oscorp Heroic.

Question to all of You - if at about 24hrs left till the end of Oscorp Heroic we would be out of top100 (thus not getting Daken cover), do You think we should not wait till the end of Season1 and just try to replace Sugarman?

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I'm not sure how much oscorp I will play. My thor, mags & cap are 22 and I'm not bullied to add them an ounce of ISO. And have no Hawk* at all. That leaves 4 characters that do something remotely useful with patch the only big guy, boring already. Enemies are insignificant right now but with 6 days to go I expect them to scale to the sky (especially for no way of tanking).

Again zero interesting rewards and Lazy Daken I hate violently from moment he was announced. If he gets a common opponent I'll probably consider the game a hopeless ruin.

I entered and played to 4k but don't be surprised if I might stop completely a few days in. And just no way I will play a Hunt-like death march with crippled resources.

The sub looks untimed -- does it go until the community target is passed?

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Emeryt wrote:

Question to all of You - if at about 24hrs left till the end of Oscorp Heroic we would be out of top100 (thus not getting Daken cover), do You think we should not wait till the end of Season1 and just try to replace Sugarman?

I think we're people alliance not prize-grab one and should stick with principal values. We saw that covers come and go, a single *** will hardly make a big difference even in 2 weeks run, and in the described situation chances would be good to drop out even with change.

(disclaimer: I'm moving toward 'who cares' mode wrt MPQ, all recent changes turn it more and more repulsive to play, and provide less value for more time; quite the only fun remains is in forums/alliance chat.)


I think the more important question would be WHO is in line to take as new member really. I would not trade Sugarman for a random unknown big-roster but might change opinion for someone really cool we know from here.

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pasa_ wrote:

I think the more important question would be WHO is in line to take as new member really. I would not trade Sugarman for a random unknown big-roster but might change opinion for someone really cool we know from here.

That's my principle - I would like someone who is very active on the forums. I even have some people in mind. We'll see.

(disclaimer: I'm moving toward 'who cares' mode wrt MPQ, all recent changes turn it more and more repulsive to play, and provide less value for more time; quite the only fun remains is in forums/alliance chat.)

I see nothing wrong with such attitude, as long as You will keep playing. "Who cares" mode allows for having more fun from the game I guess.

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Emeryt wrote:

"Who cares" mode allows for having more fun from the game I guess.

Actually yes it is.

I'm not sure how oscorp is supposed to be played -- just harvested the nodes until point value is above 120. That put me to ~5k points and #12 in sub. Marked the time for 12h pause. The bar was around 35% so guess the sub will be around.


EDIT... reading the oscorp topic, especially post like this viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7026&start=160#p133681 it looks like a royal f-up. People in rage requesting restart that will likely not happen. My condolences to anyone who actually wanted to take it seriously and eager to win maximum amount of dakens. Wonder if the hour-long outage of forum was also a down for the game servers and what it left behind.

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could someone explain what happened in this PvE with the points. i'm a little lost and confused