F2P Veterans Alliance

quadiak

Disappointing day for me yesterday, as I didn't finish well in any of the events. I just could not find the time to get back to it in the last couple hours of the events. 100's in the simulator events and 50 in god of thunder. Sorry fellas. The only thing good that happened was an invisible woman cover reward from my daily reward heroic token.

Fluffyudders wrote:

Real quick post cos I know time is short, but if you want to avoid being attacked in the lone star pvp and can't afford a shield, go iron man venom jugs combo, no-one will touch you if they're all max level, too tanky!

This may be a dumb question, but is it possible to influence which defense team the game picks for you? I have always just assumed it was at the games discretion. That is one of the reasons I have avoided having characters like Daken in my roster, as he is quite often on the defense teams and I know I will never back down from a match with him on it.

Fluffyudders wrote:

Just spotted that in the simulator we are currently a few ranks behind an alliance called "Big Spenders" who have 13 members.

I think we just found our arch-nemesis.

Lol, definitely sounds like the ideal arch-nemesis if there ever was one. This brings up a point that bothers me with this game. The fact is that there is a serious lack of stats available, and as much fun as it would be to compete against other specific alliances, it just is not possible.

Unknown

Don't worry about your results too much, it's not like we're a hardcore serious alliance! I majorly bombed the thor tournament myself because I was focusing on the simulator, trying to push to 200k to get that extra daredevil cover...

Personally I steer clear of Daken matches, and I actually use him a lot. I think he's really good, and the recent news of the impending Lazy Daken has me quite excited. I'm gonna want that hard! As for your defense team, I'm pretty sure it uses whatever team you last used to win a fight. Personally I think this is silly and needs fixing, but maybe check the tips subforum.

Yeah more stats on such things would be nice...

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I actually did OK in the Thor tournament so my Patch is fully covered now. Congrats on the Invisible Woman quadiak, I still don't have any of her covers.

Just started the last round of the simulator. My enemy levels have crept up to 230 levels in some nodes... C'mon Spidey, don't fail me now.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure your defensive team is the last one you won a fight with. So sometimes I 'save' an easier fight for my last fight of a play session so that I can put a defensive team out there.

quadiak

Thanks for the tips guys. The defense teams have never made much sense to me. Either way I was still hooped on the lone star touney with having to rebuild my 1* roster. Most pvp matches are battled now with Ares and OBW both level 85 and whoever is currently buffed. Seems like a pretty well rounded team but maybe I should consider ending my last battle with something different. Any recommendations for a general defense team

lazer wrote:

Congrats on the Invisible Woman quadiak, I still don't have any of her covers.

Thanks Lazer. This is actually my second invisible woman. I shielded my way to a first place in some pvp event shortly after she was made manadatory for a node in a pve tourny, which one I dont recall.

Wil88

I would use Hulk for your defensive team if you don't want to get attacked. Most people would skip over a Lvl 90 Hulk looking for easier prey - especially since you have some decent black covers. You could go with either Ares or OBW as your other - I think it would depend on how levelled your opponents are - Ares is more tanky, OBW squishy but is good for stealing (not that the AI does a good job of that).

On another note, any further/alternative thoughts about expanding the alliance? I'm happy with it being casual, but it is kind of disappointing seeing us drop out of the Top200 and likely missing a cover simply because most other alliances are bigger. Our average score per player is really quite high (IMO). As of now, our average Simulator score is 186379 per person. If you multiplied that by 20 we'd be in 6th place for this event. I am by no means hardcore, and am fine if we stay at 5 people, but just wondered if anyone else's opinions had changed.

I don't know if the devs have any designs on changing the current alliance structure (is there any benefit to them to do so? I don't think F2P players are their target market).

HailMary

Good to see you in my PvE main bracket, Fluffyudders!

I just dropped in to say that. Stay awesome, people!

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Wil88 wrote:

I would use Hulk for your defensive team if you don't want to get attacked. Most people would skip over a Lvl 90 Hulk looking for easier prey - especially since you have some decent black covers. You could go with either Ares or OBW as your other - I think it would depend on how levelled your opponents are - Ares is more tanky, OBW squishy but is good for stealing (not that the AI does a good job of that).

On another note, any further/alternative thoughts about expanding the alliance? I'm happy with it being casual, but it is kind of disappointing seeing us drop out of the Top200 and likely missing a cover simply because most other alliances are bigger. Our average score per player is really quite high (IMO). As of now, our average Simulator score is 186379 per person. If you multiplied that by 20 we'd be in 6th place for this event. I am by no means hardcore, and am fine if we stay at 5 people, but just wondered if anyone else's opinions had changed.

I don't know if the devs have any designs on changing the current alliance structure (is there any benefit to them to do so? I don't think F2P players are their target market).

Hulk is a good deterrent on defense, though often I find sheer levels help too. Personally I know I pretty much always skip a team with hulk but only if he has black...

I hear you on the team size. It is quite disheartening, but there's no guarantee new members would score as high as we do currently. The devs have already made a small alliance tweak, but the problem as it currently stands isn't just a F2P problem. There are still a lot of complaints floating around and I saw something not long ago from IceIX saying that improving the alliance setup was the devs current priority, so I'm hopeful that the next update will fix the issues. I've hoarded some hp so we can expand when the time is right, I think as a deadline if they don't fix the alliance issues in the next big update then we'll have to take the plunge.

For now though, we just need to try to hold on to the top 250. I may buy a sixth slot and invite a 'freelancer' to kick us up to top 250, as that would benefit all of us...

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quadiak wrote:

Thanks for the tips guys. The defense teams have never made much sense to me. Either way I was still hooped on the lone star touney with having to rebuild my 1* roster. Most pvp matches are battled now with Ares and OBW both level 85 and whoever is currently buffed. Seems like a pretty well rounded team but maybe I should consider ending my last battle with something different. Any recommendations for a general defense team

As the others already mentioned, Hulk is a decent defensive option. If you can get him to 100, that would help. I think there is a psychological factor to seeing a three digit 100 that will help deter attackers. If you get eventually get Daken, you can also put him out there. On defense the AI is likely to match green for Hulk which will generate strike tiles. OBW is another a good option. I know I've lost matches before when OBW gets her stealing and healing cycle into gear.

I'd also be open to expanding the alliance. I wouldn't mind donating HP to the cause.

quadiak

Sounds like good advice guys, thanks again. I should have close to 30000 iso-8 saved up by the end of the PVE event, maybe I will level hulk up some more. Personally I dont usually avoid him, I just save him for last and make sure I have saved up enough ap to take him out in one shot. However I do understand how some would rather avoid him. What about a hulk/punisher combo for defense? I am more likely to avoid punisher, especially when paired with OBW. If OBW hits her purple when paired with punishers low ap requirements I find I'm pretty much toast.

As for the alliance I too beleive changes are coming. The F2P squeaky wheel may not get the grease, but the P2W voices will be heard and the same update tweaks should help us. If your willing to fork out some HP fluffy, there is really no down side. I would just make sure the new recruit is willing buy a slot when the time comes.

I am still happy to buy a slot, problem being that I have had to use my hoard of HP to by roster slots to get my personal team back up to par. I know this new strategy will pay off in the end but I'm finding it tough knowing I don't have the HP available for shielding or alliance slots or even new covers until I save it. Currently sitting at 240 so should be ok to get a slot for lazy Cap.

Speaking of Captain America, has anyone else noticed that they stopped giving his covers away? Since this lastest lazy Cap announcement, I have problem won 30 cover tokens but not a single Captain America.

Unknown

Yeah I'm going to buy a freelance slot to try and get us above the 250 mark, ultimately I have to buy it at some point even when looking for new members so I might as well do it now. Then I'll wait for the R50 update and we'll expand the alliance when we reach that point.

RemoDestroyer

I just burned the 41k Iso from the past week on recruit tokens. 104 total after reinvesting. Only 1 3* and it wasn't Thor. The only available character I don't have. Went from 1.1.1 at the end of the last round to 119.144.149 pretty quick.

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RemoDestroyer wrote:

I just burned the 41k Iso from the past week on recruit tokens. 104 total after reinvesting. Only 1 3* and it wasn't Thor. The only available character I don't have. Went from 1.1.1 at the end of the last round to 119.144.149 pretty quick.

Damn that sucks, guessing you burnt it trying to get the cover? I hate the required character mechanic, and I've argued multiple times on the forums that if it's not scrapped, it should at least be changed so that the nodes aren't so much easier and worth so many more points.

Wil88

Thanks to Fluffyudders for opening up another spot in the alliance. Hopefully we'll get someone to help us out.
Nice to get some more HP for the Unholy Outlaw event, although I have to admit I didn't' get much chance to play it, so only got just enough to squeak out that BP cover.

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RemoDestroyer wrote:

I just burned the 41k Iso from the past week on recruit tokens. 104 total after reinvesting. Only 1 3* and it wasn't Thor. The only available character I don't have. Went from 1.1.1 at the end of the last round to 119.144.149 pretty quick.

Aw man, that sucks. They really should loan people a one cover hero so everyone can at least attempt each mission.

The Simulator is ending during working hours for me. I'll try to sneak in a few matches at lunch, hopefully I'll be able to hang on for some Steve Rogers covers.

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RemoDestroyer wrote:

I just burned the 41k Iso from the past week on recruit tokens. 104 total after reinvesting.

Don't do that. Really, don't, you'll eventually regret it. Iso is far too precious to waste on recruit tokens, additional levels will serve you much better in the long run than the one or two somewhat useful random covers you might get. Rather grind PvE missions for their recruit token and attempt to place well in the tournaments that hand out the covers you need.

quadiak

Moghwyn wrote:

RemoDestroyer wrote:

I just burned the 41k Iso from the past week on recruit tokens. 104 total after reinvesting.

Don't do that. Really, don't, you'll eventually regret it. Iso is far too precious to waste on recruIt tokens, additional levels will serve you much better in the long run than the one or two somewhat useful random covers you might get. Rather grind PvE missions for their recruit token and attempt to place well in the tournaments that hand out the covers you need.

I think we have all learned from his mistake, no need to be hard on him. I'm not sure you realize he was just doing the only thing he could to gain a lazy thor so that he could attempt to place well in the PVE. Pretty much screwed without lazy thor in this one. Don't sweat it RemoDestroyer, iso-8 is replaceable, however if you burned off that much HP, I might have you shot.

RemoDestroyer

Llike I'll finish the main event with a little over 200k. should have been top 10. Iso seems to be easier to come by now especially in PvE. Fearless Defenders should be better, LThor is easier than I expected in PvE. I can actually use some black hulk covers.

quadiak

I did ok, wish I had done better though, as always.

Top 10 in one heat, Top 50 in other heat(I was at 5th and 10th going into last match ) and top 50 in main event. I topped out around 240,000. The only really good thing is that I acquired just enough HP to get a slot for the 2 Lazy Cap Covers I earned.

It seems that all events will be alliance events now, and with that in mind I agree we need to start increasing the size of our alliance. I find it quite disappointing that we are all reasonably strong players, yet we missed out on that 3rd Lazy Cap cover due to sheer numbers. As soon I have enough HP saved up I would like to purchase a slot to replace the one I am occupying. As long as it works for you guys. I feel its the least I can do, and if I need to be responsible for a new recruit that is ok with me. Maybe we could somehow set it up so that we each sponsor a new recruit and hold responsibility for their conduct within the alliance for a trial period.

Wil88

I did pretty well - finished top 5 in main, top 5 in hard, and I think I missed out on top 5 for the easy (still waiting for my rewards). I had about 260K by the end. I see we have 2 new members in our alliance but they didn't show up on my game until after the event finished (maybe the devs instituted something so alliances can't add at the last minute - which seems fair in my books).

Fluffyudders, it doesn't seem fair that you have to chip in for all the roster spots. I have some HP which I can contribute for roster spots, but I also want to ensure that the Alliance still meets Fluffyudders requirements. Some alliances have been having someone buy a spot, then kicking them (so they aren't commander) and then inviting back. The only problem with that is there is always the possibility of that person getting kicked again down the road even though they have paid for a spot.

Unknown

Lots to update here:

First off I managed to finish the simulator with just over 250k, and opened up a sixth slot for the alliance. I posted in general discussion to ask for a freelancer, and let in the first responder. However his points weren't great and it wasn't enough to bring us above the 250 mark, so I burnt my hp stockpile to buy a 7th slot and get another member in. We were well into the top 250 5 minutes from the end so we should be fine. I will message both freelancers to negotiate what to do now, I know the better scorer is at least F2P and may be eligible for the alliance.

Secondly, after a few different incarnations we finally have our finished version of the alliance sig! Thanks again to quadiak for that. Does anyone know if it's possible to make our sig also a link to this thread? That would be a pretty cool icing on the cake!

Remo, don't worry about the iso, I know what you were trying to do and it was worth a shot. You'll make it back in no time, but I wouldn't recommend doing it again!

I've noticed a couple of posts from 'outsiders', of course this isn't a problem but I do wonder what's attracting people to our little corner of the forum

Lastly, can everyone post a rough estimate of what they scored in the simulator? No-one's gonna get kicked, it's just to get a handle on how much our freelancers may have contributed.