generalTsobot wrote: Thanks for the feedback. Makes sense that he would thrive with strike tile makers. Unfortunately, my 5/1/5 X23 and 3/2/3 Nova aren't yet ready for prime-time (and it doesn't seem like any of the top tier 4*'s create strike tiles, other than Jean's random ones), which would leave me to pair him with my weak OML or 3* champs. I may wait on leveling him and just play with him in PVE to get a better feel and to see if I can find some synergy there (and more covers for Nova and X23).
Vhailorx wrote: generalTsobot wrote: Thanks for the feedback. Makes sense that he would thrive with strike tile makers. Unfortunately, my 5/1/5 X23 and 3/2/3 Nova aren't yet ready for prime-time (and it doesn't seem like any of the top tier 4*'s create strike tiles, other than Jean's random ones), which would leave me to pair him with my weak OML or 3* champs. I may wait on leveling him and just play with him in PVE to get a better feel and to see if I can find some synergy there (and more covers for Nova and X23). I think nova may actually be a top tier 4* when the dust settles. But it's moot for you tsobot, if you don't have a usable version of him. I am even more theoretical than crookedknight as I have just 2 covers for punisher, but I think the key to his value is that his damage for black isn't capped, and may other characters make strike tiles at a relatively low cost. So in that respect he is like 4* thor: a team built to maximize that feature can do some serious single target damage. And unlike 4*thor, his aoe seems fairly useful.
Quebbster wrote: Vhailorx wrote: generalTsobot wrote: Thanks for the feedback. Makes sense that he would thrive with strike tile makers. Unfortunately, my 5/1/5 X23 and 3/2/3 Nova aren't yet ready for prime-time (and it doesn't seem like any of the top tier 4*'s create strike tiles, other than Jean's random ones), which would leave me to pair him with my weak OML or 3* champs. I may wait on leveling him and just play with him in PVE to get a better feel and to see if I can find some synergy there (and more covers for Nova and X23). I think nova may actually be a top tier 4* when the dust settles. But it's moot for you tsobot, if you don't have a usable version of him. I am even more theoretical than crookedknight as I have just 2 covers for punisher, but I think the key to his value is that his damage for black isn't capped, and may other characters make strike tiles at a relatively low cost. So in that respect he is like 4* thor: a team built to maximize that feature can do some serious single target damage. And unlike 4*thor, his aoe seems fairly useful. I have a maxed Nova, and I'd say he's a tier 2 fourstar - he's very good, but not good enough to dethrone the current top 5. As for Punisher, mine is 3/5/2 and level 94, so he's far from ready from the big Leagues, but I have tried him out in trivial PvE nodes and was very pleased with the result. I want to level him up as soon as possible, though I have more immediate priorities for my ISO as well. I Think he can do very well fully covered though.
Polares wrote: In 4 land Nova is probably his best pal, and if you go 3/5/5 with x23 she can be also very good with him. In 5 land both OML and Phoenix.
Quebbster wrote: Polares wrote: In 4 land Nova is probably his best pal, and if you go 3/5/5 with x23 she can be also very good with him. In 5 land both OML and Phoenix. I'm looking at Rulk as a potential 4* partner too to accelerate green - their greens do similar base damage, but obviously Punisher's damage goes up when an enemy goes down. Could be Worth considering, though Nova is probably a better pick.
Vhailorx wrote: They should lick **** in pve though.
stochasticism wrote: What's the consensus on his best build. I've seen arguments in this thread for all skills being at 3 (though personally I think 5 in green is just silly). I have a 5/3/5 that seems to be really nice to use with other strike tile makers and still preserves his big nuke. Any reason to think 5/5/3 is better.
wymtime wrote: I have a question about his black ability. Does he make the strike tiles first then deal extra damage on the new tiles made or does he deal damage first on the strike tiles on the board then create the strike tiles.
Vhailorx wrote: wymtime wrote: I have a question about his black ability. Does he make the strike tiles first then deal extra damage on the new tiles made or does he deal damage first on the strike tiles on the board then create the strike tiles. The description for army of one clearly says creates strikes "then" deal damage. So it seems like you get to use the new strike tiles when calculating the direct damage.