Malcrof wrote: so yah, i plan on using some Cmags and OBW, both are around lvl 180 + boost, i don't see it being an issue, once i get to 800, i can easily cake and bake all the way to 2k using 3*s.
Dragon_Nexus wrote: Malcrof wrote: so yah, i plan on using some Cmags and OBW, both are around lvl 180 + boost, i don't see it being an issue, once i get to 800, i can easily cake and bake all the way to 2k using 3*s. How? HOW? I get to 850 and my progress slams to a halt. I can sometimes squeak my way up to 950 but more often than not now I can't hit 1000 unless I'm insanely lucky on my fight timing since I'll beat that 45 point fight that was hard as nails and get back to find I got hit for 150 points or more. 1000 has become quite unobtainable for me for some time now, despite my complete 3* roster. Funnily enough I've been stomping PvE with my IM40/Thoress combo, so I might give that a go in PvP and see how I fare. Though Thoress is only level 185, so even that might not be enough.
udonomefoo wrote: "Cake & Bake" = hitting cupcakes. In other words, get in on gaming the broken system or sit on the outside looking in.
udonomefoo wrote: Malcrof wrote: *snip i have over a dozen 4*s fully covered 4* covers are not an issue at all, not even close, the 1 and only issue right now is ISO.
Malcrof wrote: *snip i have over a dozen 4*s fully covered 4* covers are not an issue at all, not even close, the 1 and only issue right now is ISO.
Dragon_Nexus wrote: udonomefoo wrote: "Cake & Bake" = hitting cupcakes. In other words, get in on gaming the broken system or sit on the outside looking in. Care to ellaborate a little further? I've heard those two terms before, but never seen them explained.
Malcrof wrote: 800, i can easily cake and bake all the way to 2k using 3*s. BTW, every time i throw Black widow, she sniper rifles ^^. Also, for a little Turn back time, before cupcaking, before i knew about line, before i even had any 4*s, barely had max 3*s, i hit my first 1k. Page 4 is when i finally did it, page or 2 before was my first 2k in SSim. All with 3*'s, and this accidental guide that was made, simply by me asking for help, is still useful!viewtopic.php?f=33&t=30912
Malcrof wrote: udonomefoo wrote: And with the introduction of the 20cp token, for every 4 25cp's you win, you get 5 pulls. Now with the 80 item vaults, more 4*s will be flooding out.. and none of the includes the rare happy accidents from non LT tokens.
udonomefoo wrote: And with the introduction of the 20cp token, for every 4 25cp's you win, you get 5 pulls. Now with the 80 item vaults, more 4*s will be flooding out.. and none of the includes the rare happy accidents from non LT tokens.
madok wrote: I was thinking about this nerf this morning and did come up with one positive side. In theory, this should be making the 4* DDQ easier than it was the first go for those matches where it is a boosted 3*. Of course, that still requires that you have a halfway decent roster of 4*s but does lower the floor a bit.
Lemminkäinen wrote: Dragon_Nexus wrote: udonomefoo wrote: "Cake & Bake" = hitting cupcakes. In other words, get in on gaming the broken system or sit on the outside looking in. Care to ellaborate a little further? I've heard those two terms before, but never seen them explained. You leave one seed and climb to 800+. Then you tell on LINE that you're making a cupcake, beat the seed team with a two-star team or whatever that's trivial to beat, sit tight for a while and let your LINE friends queue you up. Then you shield and tell them. They climb to whatever, beat your cupcake with a similarly bad team, tell everyone, wait, shield, and repeat. Since the cupcakes multiply exponentially you can climb using only them. This is how this game is supposed to be played, apparently. And then you can climb to 2k+ easy.
Dragon_Nexus wrote: That sounds...bonkers. That's a lot of coordination and timing and planning and execution and hopeful collaboration to achieve that. It seems to assume a lot, too. 1) People won't jerk you over. 2) You don't get sniped to hell by people not on Line in the mean time. 3) You don't end up losing what would normally be easy matches, or even taking too long, because of a bad board. Not to mention I feel kinda icky "manipulating" the game, so to speak, to advance. I'm happy if everyone else does this and fights amongst the top while I sneak in for the paltry 1000 prize (which used to happen but...somehow doesn't any more). I don't know if it's something I'd want to devote so much time and effort into...
Dragon_Nexus wrote: Not to mention I feel kinda icky "manipulating" the game, so to speak, to advance. I'm happy if everyone else does this and fights amongst the top while I sneak in for the paltry 1000 prize (which used to happen but...somehow doesn't any more). I don't know if it's something I'd want to devote so much time and effort into...
Dragon_Nexus wrote: That sounds...bonkers.
That's a lot of coordination and timing and planning and execution and hopeful collaboration to achieve that. It seems to assume a lot, too. 1) People won't jerk you over. 2) You don't get sniped to hell by people not on Line in the mean time. 3) You don't end up losing what would normally be easy matches, or even taking too long, because of a bad board.
You don't get to those points anymore without knowing etiquette and being on LINE.Not to mention I feel kinda icky "manipulating" the game, so to speak, to advance. I'm happy if everyone else does this and fights amongst the top while I sneak in for the paltry 1000 prize (which used to happen but...somehow doesn't any more). I don't know if it's something I'd want to devote so much time and effort into...
Phumade wrote: Don't take this the wrong way, but while your playing your or even D3 interpretation of MPQ should be played, The top 100 alliances in the entire MPQ universe is playing a much deeper meta version of MPQ. Feel free to play the game in the fashion that makes the most sense and fun to you (Nothing requires you to participate in high level play). But don't be surprised, that other people don't see a need to limit their play in such a fashion. That in a nutshell is why your advancement has slowed. At your stage of the game 800+ (vet brackets), the game becomes much more about coordination and cooperation with others. And that is true whether you view role as: baker, CC eater, sniper, enforcer, blah blah blah.