Upcoming Crash: Star Lord vs. Gamora

Buret0

Was this the first fight that didn't have two overlapping colors?

Because I found it super annoying that the board was green/black and I couldn't stop her from getting both.

PeterGibbons316

Buret0 wrote:

Was this the first fight that didn't have two overlapping colors?

Because I found it super annoying that the board was green/black and I couldn't stop her from getting both.

XPool v XFW only shares black.

TxMoose

different kind of fight, but px/carnage has no overlap at all.

Unknown

This fight is why we need a 4* Drax.

Less so because it's deserved and moreso to give Star Lord somebody else to fight.

Really, I can't think of anybody who'd really be an interesting match up with Star Lord's mechanics. Best I can think of is OBW's tile elimination, but that just leaves AP denial on anything but blue not THAT important with her lack of offense.

Falcon and Bag-Man also have anti-countdown tactics but they're both obviously not suited for one on one either.

Can Star Lord's purple swap Tetris Ultron's bombs? Careful time management would be kinda interesting there, maybe?

He's a hard one to match up. So he gets the Loreish fight that sucks.

woopie

Took me 6 tries with a 167 535 SL. On 3 of the tries, I got Gamora down to sub 200 health and she got off Bad Rep along with a cascade. The other one I got whupped after she got 10 red after about 4 turns. She got her green off on 4 of 6 rounds too. Just wasn't pretty, but it was better than before when I had a 531 SL, I don't think I cleared it then

GTannen73

I did it with 5/2/3 at level 147. Boosted damage, AP, all damage. Took about six tries, because the first few boards were flush with green and black. Finally got a cooperative board and was able to deny enough to take her down with two purple fires and a red. Got for my trouble, so, yay for that

Buret0

colwag wrote:

This fight is why we need a 4* Drax.

Less so because it's deserved and moreso to give Star Lord somebody else to fight.

Really, I can't think of anybody who'd really be an interesting match up with Star Lord's mechanics. Best I can think of is OBW's tile elimination, but that just leaves AP denial on anything but blue not THAT important with her lack of offense.

Falcon and Bag-Man also have anti-countdown tactics but they're both obviously not suited for one on one either.

Can Star Lord's purple swap Tetris Ultron's bombs? Careful time management would be kinda interesting there, maybe?

He's a hard one to match up. So he gets the Loreish fight that sucks.

IM40 would be interesting once they make the changes. Share yellow and red, different blue/purple. The blue AoE isn't the big deal, it is repeated uses of the Red that comes with any of the yellow tiles going off that will kill in 1 v 1. Denying yellow means that if IM40 ever gets 6 AP, you aren't going to be in a good position to match away his yellows. Failure to deny yellow means you don't have EWM and give IM40 the opportunity to fire off recharge early (and maybe often). Matching 2 of his CD tiles will put him in a stun state, but still leave him with 4 Red/Blue.

I think that would be a better match than Gamora going forward, though they may assign him to someone like Nova when his 1 v 1 comes up.

Unknown

Buret0 wrote:

IM40 would be interesting once they make the changes. Share yellow and red, different blue/purple. The blue AoE isn't the big deal, it is repeated uses of the Red that comes with any of the yellow tiles going off that will kill in 1 v 1. Denying yellow means that if IM40 ever gets 6 AP, you aren't going to be in a good position to match away his yellows. Failure to deny yellow means you don't have EWM and give IM40 the opportunity to fire off recharge early (and maybe often). Matching 2 of his CD tiles will put him in a stun state, but still leave him with 4 Red/Blue.

I think that would be a better match than Gamora going forward, though they may assign him to someone like Nova when his 1 v 1 comes up.

I don't disagree that'd work well color-wise. (And S-L can Slight of Hand away a CD tile), although I get the feeling that for most people one Unibeam would off them.

I just kinda hope there'd be a matchup that matches up mechanics better, but that's tricky to do with Star Lord's.

I can imagine Oldest Trick in the Book being a good counter-ish to super cheap powers (Like Gamora's red) but without any AP Steal/Destruction attached to it, it's just staling for a few turns.

Going off topic a bit, this makes me think about what sort of buffs Star Lord should get.

Everybody With Me is kinda never worth the cost of firing it, you'd need to cast like, 5 abilities to even come out AP-positive on them. It'd need to be either really cheap (Like, 3AP, because I'm dreaming big) or even a passive (Probably at -1 AP instead of -2). If it's still a countdown, resolving it could maybe put a Strike tile on the board for the Inspriationaly Leadership stuff.

Oldest Trick in the Book has "Make enemy powers more expensive", but as mentioned, it ain't going to last very long. The Star Lord player may even want it to go away, so it can resolve and do it's big hunk o damage. As a power meant to stall other powers, it kinda feels like it needs more then a few turns of AP Cost Increase for that. How about when you get the punch off, you knock em out of their senses too, and destroy 3 or so AP in their 3 strongest colors?

Sleight of Hand seems alright as is. Only thing I might add to it is, since it's an explosive, maybe destroy a 3x3 set of tiles around it, but that might be a bit much cause man Board Destruction is pretty valued around here.

Those would fit what those sorts of abilities and/or concepts should do better, I'd think.

Xenoberyll

Took me 5 or 6 tries but it worked the first try i used buffs (match damage +2 red, +2 purple). Was worth the effort though as I got a red Old Man from that token.

This one was far from Mr Failtastic. You need the featured guy covered pretty well but as long as it's beatable I think it's fine to have a challenge.

rainkingucd

Managed to get very luck with my L127 2/2/2 .

+2 R/Y, +2 all, + 100% all

Matched yellow. Matched / denied red. Used yellow. Was at the point where I fired off red twice, matched purple until I fired that off twice too. Really lucky bored, she never got off a power.

Akari

Tried 8x with a 4/1/3 Starlord, and took him to 130. Never got anything going, and always ending up eating a Bad Reputation due to cascades. Theoretically I could do it with good denial, but AI luck trumps that, so I give up this time. That's 0/2 for Starlord, hopefully I get enough covers to win next time.

OnesOwnGrief

17 tries... 3/5/3 Level 115 Star-Lord. I swear to god, if I don't have a 5/3/5 Star-Lord by the time this rolls around again, I'm gonna quit.

beyonderbub

SL lvl 139 3/3/3 took about 12 tries and max boosts: +b/p, + all AP; + 100 % dmg. All that and a Nick Fury purple from the leg token

Moon Roach

Moon Roach's level 180 5/5/3 managed it 3rd time. Hulkbuster black from the token.

Wolveroach's level 150 4/1/3 managed it 7th time. 5* Spider-Man purple from the token.

This one relies much more on luck than skill.

OzarkBoatswain

3/2/3 max level. 8 tries and I never got more than half of her life. I give up.

Cousin Simpson

Giving up after using up all my good boosts. NEXT TIME, GAMORA.

Arimis_Thorn

Moon Roach wrote:

Moon Roach's level 180 5/5/3 managed it 3rd time. Hulkbuster black from the token.

Wolveroach's level 150 4/1/3 managed it 7th time. 5* Spider-Man purple from the token.

This one relies much more on luck than skill.

I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again, but fights that REQUIRE luck to win are garbage/lazy game design.

Most of the other fights you have a decent chance with a half covered character. In this thread I've seen fully covered SL's that took several attempts.

It's basically a big eff you and gratz to those who win the magic board lottery. Seriously I'd rather they just told me I didn't have enough covers/levels to try this challenge yet.

Cousin Simpson

Cousin Simpson wrote:

Giving up after using up all my good boosts. NEXT TIME, GAMORA.

I lied! Leveled him again to 153, and this time bit the bullet and equipped my +150% all-color match damage (of which I had 15 left, so I was giving myself no more than three final attempts), +3 red/yellow, and +3 blue/purple (once again, yay retired boosts!).

Got closer to beating her on the first two tries, and finally got her on the last. She actually got Bad Reputation off near the end -- thankfully I already had one of my yellow CDs out to block one, and two of her strikes were on a match 3 that I immediately grabbed. I took 4-digit damage on the next turn, but that set up a match-4 that would wipe another strike tile, AND I had enough to cast my purple, which I used to overwrite the final strike tile. From there it was just about hanging on to dear life until my purple could explode and finish her off.

So I'm pretty much out of the useful boosts, but I did pull another black XFDP, which coupled with the one I pulled from 20 CP, makes him 4/4/3 -- I think that's a fair trade off!

snlf25

This will forever and always be a sit this one out situation for me. I don't ever see myself putting iso into starlord and to put him up against gamora is asinine. Right up there with winged craptain vs Carol.

CT1888

Thanks to Peter Gibbons DDQ4 strategy guide over in Tips and Guides, I was inspired to have a go with my 212 level 100 Starlord; 3 attempts with +2r/y, +50%r/y, +100% all gave me Shadowy Acrobatics for my efforts