Upcoming Crash: Star Lord vs. Gamora

pheregas
pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
Firstly, I'd like to state my happiness regarding the Legendary Tokens, CP, and aiding in the 4* transition. I now have 8 cover maxed 4's, have championed all that I am going to champion in the 2/3 realm (except for one 2*, and that'll happen tomorrow, then I'll be able to focus on bringing up my 4's), and have been able to successfully complete every DDQ 4* challenge, thus far, in this repeat of the cycle (which certainly wasn't the case the first time through). Even the ISO increase has been a wonderful step in the right direction.

That being said.

Star Lord.... I've got him covered at 5/5/2 at level 131. If it were any other DDQ Crash (except Mr. F - see below), with any other 4*, that would probably be more than enough to win the battle. But being a support character, facing a way overpowered first strike 3* who's black power is bestial when she's fighting alone... It's going to be another ugly day in DDQ.

I'm not sure if the devs have made any plans or not, but is Gamora going to have her level reduced for this second try? Or are we getting a different opponent?

And on a similar note, if you can do the changes for this DDQ Crash, would you also do it for Mr. Fantastic when his turn comes around?
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  • Daiches
    Daiches Posts: 1,252 Chairperson of the Boards
    Both his purple and red deal plenty of damage. StarLord is more than his yellow.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    It's definitely one of the tougher DDQ fights. I had a tough time last time with a well covered Starlord around level 200. This time he's a champion...
    I'm hoping they'll go with Rocket and Groot instead of Gamora. Sure, they have more life and can regenerate, but that's part of the puzzle and Star-Lord may be able to use his explosives to bring them down.
    They probably won't, but you never know...
  • LordXberk
    LordXberk Posts: 252 Mover and Shaker
    Had zero chance last time, but have gotten some additional covers and now have a 4/4/2 SL. Problem is that he is sitting at Level 70 and I don't think it's worth the ISO to bring him up to Level 190. I've pulled off the Antman and Elektra DDQs with lower Levels (110 and 100, respectively), but I don't think a Level 100something SL is gonna cut it at 4/4/2, so I'll probably just sit this one out...
  • ZeiramMR
    ZeiramMR Posts: 1,357 Chairperson of the Boards
    I wasn't able to pull it off last time with my low cover count. This time around, I am at 3/2/5 and level 136, which should make things more feasible.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    Daiches wrote:
    Both his purple and red deal plenty of damage. StarLord is more than his yellow.
    You sound like someone who didn't try this battle the last time around...
  • Orion
    Orion Posts: 1,295 Chairperson of the Boards
    My StarLord was something like 2/3/1 last time and had no chance. Now he's 4/5/4, but at level 131, he still doesn't have a chance.

    I just don't think he's worth putting any more ISO into when I have a ton of more worthy 4*s to level up.
  • I've not been looking forward to this... got a lvl 150 Starlord now but there is no real tactic here except deny all 3 colours and pray for a good board.
  • pheregas
    pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think this is a much more feasible battle if you have red maxed. Since you're going to spend all your time making red, green, and black matches for denial, my plan is to Oldest Trick her 1k at a time, all the while hoping she doesn't match it.

    Should only take doing that like 15 times. :/
  • This is definitely one of the toughest DDQ4 battles. Not only is star-lord primarily a support character, but Gamora excels when she is the only one on her team. Last time my Star Lord was L150, 4/2/3 and it still took me quite a few tries. I think I have 5 purple and 5 red now which will make it easier, but I'm not planning on putting any ISO into leveling him beyond 150, so this will still probably be a challenge - I'll try to remember to report back on Friday.
  • Well if she gets off black... I'm dead.
    If she gets off red... I can take one of these, 2 at most before match damage kills me.
    If she gets off green... I'm stunned, so she is free to collect red and black, then see previous points.

    All the while my attacks each take 4 turns to hurt her after I activate them (not cheap in the first place).

    I didn't have the covers to even look at it last time, but I'll certainly give it a good attempt this week!
  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,640 Chairperson of the Boards
    I have a fully developed 4* roster, but due to draws and bad luck in getting to his 1000s, my Star Lord is 4/1/3, level 127...

    Yeah, I don't think this one is happening. I'll probably enter it a few times for tinykitty and giggles, but I won't expend any resources on this one. I'm not sure what they were thinking - Gamora is a reasonable foe under normal circumstances (she's a lot more impressive with 15 covers than 13 - all her powers are noticably better at 5 covers,) outright powerful when she's by herself, and against Star Lord she's practically a goddess.

    Incidentally, my Mr F. is 2/4/5 level 166 and I actually didn't have too much trouble with Doctor Doom - I managed it in two or three tries. It's very doable, you just need a decent board. I don't know how reasonable it is with less than 5 black, though...
  • Tatercat
    Tatercat Posts: 930 Critical Contributor
    Been dreading this one, as last time I had a 4/2/2 Starlord at lvl 168 and went through 20 health packs, never did beat her. It's a combination of a support character with long countdowns vs a character that's pretty dominating 1 on 1. (How does Skullcracker still stun if there's no teammates to bang his head against or be thrown at? Grrrrr).

    My Starlord is now 5/3/4 at 192, and I've reluctantly resigned myself into dumping iso on him to get to 200 by Friday. But even at that level, people were having trouble with this last time, so this is still iffy.
  • Cousin Simpson
    Cousin Simpson Posts: 1,086 Chairperson of the Boards
    Tatercat wrote:
    (How does Skullcracker still stun if there's no teammates to bang his head against or be thrown at? Grrrrr).

    Maybe she uses her own head when no others are handy.

    My guy is unleveled but at 4/2/3, I suppose I'll decide what to do with him the day of.
  • Tatercat
    Tatercat Posts: 930 Critical Contributor
    Tatercat wrote:
    (How does Skullcracker still stun if there's no teammates to bang his head against or be thrown at? Grrrrr).

    Maybe she uses her own head when no others are handy.


    I would forgive everything about this match up if that animation just switched to Gamora drop kicking Starlord's , uh, little lord. THAT would be an understandable stun and appropriate to the player experience in this Crash.
  • Cousin Simpson
    Cousin Simpson Posts: 1,086 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2016
    Tatercat wrote:
    I would forgive everything about this match up if that animation just switched to Gamora drop kicking Starlord's , uh, little lord. THAT would be an understandable stun and appropriate to the player experience in this Crash.

    Gamora grabs two of her enemies and smashes their heads together before throwing them into a third enemy. Gamora deals 1148 damage, and stuns up to 2 enemies for 2 turns. If the enemy team has only 1 opponent, this power becomes Nutcracker.
  • Wil88
    Wil88 Posts: 159 Tile Toppler
    I wish I had read this before levelling my 4/4/5 Starlord to lvl 135. Maybe I'll have enough ISO to get him high enough by Friday but I would rather spend it elsewhere.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    Wil88 wrote:
    I wish I had read this before levelling my 4/4/5 Starlord to lvl 135. Maybe I'll have enough ISO to get him high enough by Friday but I would rather spend it elsewhere.
    I've taken all my 4s that I think have a chance at their ddq day to 145. that has been pretty successful for me without going crazy with the iso. I think the only one that might need more is MFer. some don't need as much, but that seems like a good level and while I didn't know it at the time, puts them just ahead of my max champed 2*s. towards the end of this run i'll have to work on GR, X23, cho and falcap. we'll see how far I get on miles, and my venom is still stuck at 1 cover.

    last run I had 4/2/2 level 145 and got it in 2 tries, but got pretty lucky on my board I think.
  • cletus1985
    cletus1985 Posts: 276 Mover and Shaker
    Last time around my SL was 5/0/1 and I pulled it off. Now he's 5/2/5 so it should be much easier. The key to this match is really his purple, it packs a pretty good punch and it's placeable. Red is a shot in the dark since it's random placement, but since you have to deny red anyways it can come in very useful. Is this the only Clash where the opponents don't share 2 colors?
  • pabasa130
    pabasa130 Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
    cletus1985 wrote:
    Last time around my SL was 5/0/1 and I pulled it off. Now he's 5/2/5 so it should be much easier. The key to this match is really his purple, it packs a pretty good punch and it's placeable. Red is a shot in the dark since it's random placement, but since you have to deny red anyways it can come in very useful. Is this the only Clash where the opponents don't share 2 colors?

    About your first time, I'm in a similar situation currently (SL 5/1/0, and had 2 other effing purple covers drop randomly as well over the past year). Can you elaborate how you did it? Levelled up fully? Etc?

    Really appreciate the tips and hints.
  • cletus1985
    cletus1985 Posts: 276 Mover and Shaker
    pabasa130 wrote:
    cletus1985 wrote:
    Last time around my SL was 5/0/1 and I pulled it off. Now he's 5/2/5 so it should be much easier. The key to this match is really his purple, it packs a pretty good punch and it's placeable. Red is a shot in the dark since it's random placement, but since you have to deny red anyways it can come in very useful. Is this the only Clash where the opponents don't share 2 colors?

    About your first time, I'm in a similar situation currently (SL 5/1/0, and had 2 other effing purple covers drop randomly as well over the past year). Can you elaborate how you did it? Levelled up fully? Etc?

    Really appreciate the tips and hints.

    I had him leveled as I high as I could (168 I believe), it took quite a few tries and a good board. Not having a red cover will hurt as that was at least secondary damage for denying Gamora (which you'll have to do anyways).