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  • gahudahu wrote:
    gahudahu wrote:
    Sorry if the question has been asked and answered before... I do not understand how this event works: previously the level of enemies went up after each win. Now it seems that the level goes up based on time.

    1) Am I right?
    2) If I am right, could someone tell me what is the time span during which the level of enemies will remain the same?
    3) If I join the event late (say 12 hours before the end for instance), will I get the maxed enemies, or will they start at their lowest level?

    Thanks!

    We currently think that the levels of the enemies increase based on how many times a particular level has been beaten by everyone in the entire community. The earlier you join, the lower the levels will be, so do all the hard fights today before they become impossible. Joining late will have enemies at a higher level because the community has already beaten them a lot by that time.

    Thanks a lot NorthernPolarity & Phantron! Still a bit confused though: should not everyone face the same level of enemy in this case? As we all know, some people with very low roster seem to be successfull and reach top 10, but it seems impossible if they have to face 230ish ennemy. Thanks again for the quick answer!

    So scaling is based off a ton of random stuff that we aren't entirely sure of. Given the current information, it seems like the scaling has 2 main factors: one is based off of how many time the community has beaten a node as i said, and another one seems to somehow take into account how strong your roster is. We don't know if it's either based off of the total levels you have or how often you win in PvP or whatever, but this second factor is why lowbies are able to face sub 230s. I don't think the devs would tell us because they don't want us to game the system or complain about how silly their algorithm is.

    Alright I see... hopefully we can make it clearer along the way, it is kind of infuriating to get wiped out with a strong roster and see lowbies doing fine haha. Thanks again for the quick response, really cool.
  • My levels start out in a reasonable range, but they increase over time. The Hard IW mission is currently lvl 133, but judging by round 2, they will probably be lvl 230 in 24 hours. Maybe the scaling algorithm directly looks at what kind of Spiderman you have.
  • Pawkeshup wrote:
    Ugh, I just fought my little **** off in this, managed to struggle to a 15th place finish, and was super excited to get a reward token. Except, no reward token. At all. I was hoping to be able to use it to possibly field a better team but guess not. Support ticket is already in for it, but likely won't be resolved in time to affect the results.

    It can take a while to get your token depending on when you entered. I haven't received mine either, and believe I got mine maybe 45 minutes after last time.

    They said when the servers are hammered the rewards get handed out slower. I had some reward that took 1.5 hours to arrive before.
  • Phantron wrote:
    Pawkeshup wrote:
    Ugh, I just fought my little **** off in this, managed to struggle to a 15th place finish, and was super excited to get a reward token. Except, no reward token. At all. I was hoping to be able to use it to possibly field a better team but guess not. Support ticket is already in for it, but likely won't be resolved in time to affect the results.

    It can take a while to get your token depending on when you entered. I haven't received mine either, and believe I got mine maybe 45 minutes after last time.

    They said when the servers are hammered the rewards get handed out slower. I had some reward that took 1.5 hours to arrive before.

    I don't think that's it. I've never had rewards handed out separately like that from connected events. Hard mode reward was received and regular wasn't. I bet a lot of people are having issues with their regular reward. Who knows though.
  • Unity wrote:
    No fair! How dare you put me against classic storm and obw! Thats my own team! /.\ Since i cant use them , I can't win!

    Have fun with the one after that ... CMags + Loki + Rags

    Oh yeah... The IW "Special character required" mission is back and "funblanced". Frigging frakking tinykitty....
  • I haven't received the second set of rewards either.
  • Lyrian wrote:
    Unity wrote:
    No fair! How dare you put me against classic storm and obw! Thats my own team! /.\ Since i cant use them , I can't win!

    Have fun with the one after that ... CMags + Loki + Rags

    Oh yeah... The IW "Special character required" mission is back and "funblanced". Frigging frakking tinykitty....


    I can beat easy mode without a problem, it's hard mode that i cant .
  • So scaling is based off a ton of random stuff that we aren't entirely sure of. Given the current information, it seems like the scaling has 2 main factors: one is based off of how many time the community has beaten a node as i said, and another one seems to somehow take into account how strong your roster is. We don't know if it's either based off of the total levels you have or how often you win in PvP or whatever, but this second factor is why lowbies are able to face sub 230s. I don't think the devs would tell us because they don't want us to game the system or complain about how silly their algorithm is.
    Heaven forbid we complain that it isn't working and never did. We would obviously exploit it any way possible if they actually told us how it works, though. Or how they think it does.

    I don't think it looks at roster because DU_Will said it doesn't (which doesn't necessarily mean it still doesn't, but it's more of an answer than we usually have), and because a lot of people complaining are saying their eligible roster can't do what the clever algorithm thinks it should be able to - this was obviously emphasized in Oscorp by the incredibly limited eligible roster. Can't very well test without deleting all your covers to see what happens, though. All we know for sure is that a new account sees very low levels, no matter how many people beat up IW before them.
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    Wow. Just looked at hard mode.

    Lvl 230 hulk / Thor / ares = .........

    How's that different from easy mode?

    Although Thor is the central character and there is a hammer symbol for the mission on easy mode and Hulk is centre with the radiation symbol for the mission on hard mode.
  • Did anyone notice that base point values of 3rd round are about 5x the 2nd round? That's 12500 for the last hard mode mission at max rubberbanding.

    Good news, everyone can still race for the top! 4th round might be even crazier. Sucks to be me but whatever, at least that 8k iso progression looks easy (relatively easy, my EASY mode first mission was already 230 from the beginning lol)

    At least most of the opponents in my main bracket don't have a clue about how to maximize the point gain. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    Il Palazzo wrote:
    Did anyone notice that base point values of 3rd round are about 5x the 2nd round? That's 12500 for the last hard mode mission at max rubberbanding.

    Good news, everyone can still race for the top! 4th round might be even crazier. Sucks to be me but whatever, at least that 8k iso progression looks easy (relatively easy, my EASY mode first mission was already 230 from the beginning lol)

    At least most of the opponents in my main bracket don't have a clue about how to maximize the point gain. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Seriously? Damn it, there goes my cushy lead. I guess it was to be expected.
  • Seriously? Damn it, there goes my cushy lead. I guess it was to be expected.

    We are not allowed to slack yet. Or maye we are, I mean, IW YELLOW.
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yay I can reach the progression rewards again.

    Boo, it's patch.
  • Lyrian wrote:
    Unity wrote:
    No fair! How dare you put me against classic storm and obw! Thats my own team! /.\ Since i cant use them , I can't win!

    Have fun with the one after that ... CMags + Loki + Rags

    Oh yeah... The IW "Special character required" mission is back and "funblanced". Frigging frakking tinykitty....

    Took me a couple of tries to get pasted classic storm/OBW/Wolverine. Now its max lvl CMag/Loki/Rags oh fun. I think I might just throw the towel in it now worth the time
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    Il Palazzo wrote:
    Seriously? Damn it, there goes my cushy lead. I guess it was to be expected.

    We are not allowed to slack yet. Or maye we are, I mean, IW YELLOW.

    T.T. I wasn't really even aiming for #1 main bracket progression awards to be honest: I was just grinding the subs to get those 3 tokens, and the main bracket was more of a bonus. My IW is at 3 yellow so I could care less about that stupid IW cover: where are the x-force yellows and IW blues?
  • Anyone else still missing hard mode rewards? Its alrdy 1hour since the round finished.
  • Unknown
    edited February 2014
    Sumilea wrote:
    Took me a couple of tries to get pasted classic storm/OBW/Wolverine. Now its max lvl CMag/Loki/Rags oh fun. I think I might just throw the towel in it now worth the time

    Pretty much all enemies level 230 too (apart from 2 fights in easy that are 200), and you see people who already have 10x your points with teams that are half the levels of yours.
    CapceH wrote:
    Anyone else still missing hard mode rewards? Its alrdy 1hour since the round finished.
    Got mine 5-10 mins after it ended.

    Anyone know how much are the large iso rewards for easy and hard missions?
  • CapceH wrote:
    Anyone else still missing hard mode rewards? Its alrdy 1hour since the round finished.

    Got my hard mode reward but still nothing from easy mode brackets
  • akboyce
    akboyce Posts: 285 Mover and Shaker
    Unity wrote:
    No fair! How dare you put me against classic storm and obw! Thats my own team! /.\ Since i cant use them , I can't win!

    I am using Doom, Spidey, and Punisher. Got to Devil Dino mission for this round and went yea... Nope. Not fighting high level dinosaur without Punisher AND Spidey.

    Bagmans greatest power is stopping me from using Spidey...
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    Oh my, first set of my rewards came in: Green Hulk (which I'm going to save for respec), Blue Mags (5/3/2 now), and red cap. Pretty sweet if you ask me.