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I just noticed I have Colognoisseur in my main bracket

I'm beyond fazed at how much money he must have spent on this game.


edit: ...and Hulksgreenpoo is in my hard sub-bracket. Boy, did I ever time this one. Stick a knife in me.

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Zhirrzh wrote:

It's kind of silly really, that how hard the missions are is based on what time of day you're playing.

It's consistent. You always had to get up at 04:00 to get more points than the other guy for doing the same thing. Now the difficulty depends arbitrarily on timing, too.

Phantron wrote:

What I'm doing now on the hard Daken mission is just defend until I can steal a Threaten tile. When you consider the length and the difficulty of that fight, getting 17 black isn't actually very long compared to all the other alternatives.

This is also why Cap so often gets wheeled out for PvE - obviously also that he keeps getting buffed, but in these long attrition matches his efficiency matters and you can even use his yellow. I've been having Loki flip strike tiles because he has the outrageous buff on this sub. But that's the temporary guest buff, so Moonstone's getting high ISO priority for later. With the tapering buff that seems to be a permanent PvE fixture now she can tank pretty well even at mid-sixties, and I've always liked her purple more than most seem to.

I missed one refresh completely on this and only skimmed a few of the highest hard mode values on the next, so unless everyone I'm bracketed with simultaneously contracts a mysterious illness preventing phone or mouse use, I think I've taken myself out of the running already. Will still keep doing what I can, since the return of entertaining PvE has novelty value in itself.

cleptomaniac

My group's overall leader has like 30000 points. Is everyone's brackets pretty similar?

Mawtful

cleptomaniac wrote:

My group's overall leader has like 30000 points. Is everyone's brackets pretty similar?

My main bracket leader is at 26405 - oh, it's Jozier?! Hi Jozier!

I'm currently at #11 with 20248.

NorthernPolarity

Leading my bracket at 28k. Second place is at 21k, although I spy a Vector Mangler lurking in 4th, whom I suspect will grind heavily tomorrow.

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Veracity wrote:

Zhirrzh wrote:

It's kind of silly really, that how hard the missions are is based on what time of day you're playing.

It's consistent. You always had to get up at 04:00 to get more points than the other guy for doing the same thing. Now the difficulty depends arbitrarily on timing, too.

Phantron wrote:

What I'm doing now on the hard Daken mission is just defend until I can steal a Threaten tile. When you consider the length and the difficulty of that fight, getting 17 black isn't actually very long compared to all the other alternatives.

This is also why Cap so often gets wheeled out for PvE - obviously also that he keeps getting buffed, but in these long attrition matches his efficiency matters and you can even use his yellow. I've been having Loki flip strike tiles because he has the outrageous buff on this sub. But that's the temporary guest buff, so Moonstone's getting high ISO priority for later. With the tapering buff that seems to be a permanent PvE fixture now she can tank pretty well even at mid-sixties, and I've always liked her purple more than most seem to.

I missed one refresh completely on this and only skimmed a few of the highest hard mode values on the next, so unless everyone I'm bracketed with simultaneously contracts a mysterious illness preventing phone or mouse use, I think I've taken myself out of the running already. Will still keep doing what I can, since the return of entertaining PvE has novelty value in itself.

I get this picture of Captain America just keep on throwing his shields once you get enough AP to do blue/red back to back, or even more than one blue/red. And yeah it'd actually work well for that fight because it takes a long time to wear down their health since you cannot use Patch so even with a stunlock you should think about damage options that take longer to ramp up.

Moonstone doesn't get enough credit I think because Gravity Warp requires you to think about what's going on. But in a clean board it's pretty much damage + 4 free AP. On a one color special tile board, it functions as virtually guaranteed special tile removal. Sure, it doesn't work well when there are 3 colors of countdowns, but anyone else would struggle with it too except Magneto Classic (overwrite any tile for 5 blue is pretty insane if you think about it just from a defense point of view).

I think due to rubberbanding it doesn't matter too much if you miss a refresh. Well, you won't catch the guy who does everything every refresh, but you probably aren't catching him anyway. As far as I can tell in all my bracket/sub brackets, I'm definitely not competing against the guy who does everything on every refresh here. I lead my hard bracket by about 1K and I can get almost the 10X modifier on my missions still.

Thanos

I'm first at 26k, 2nd is at 23k. Only going to play enough to stay on top since the progression rewards aren't worth losing my sanity grinding for. Overall a much better experience than recent PvE's. Now if only i would stop getting the 20 iso booby prize when i've only gotten 1/4 rewards.

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Moral wrote:

I'm leading with 20k in the main bracket so far. The Daken fight (simulation 4) is now level 223.

I haven't read the entire thread, but who are you guys using for this fight??? I've used Loki/Spidey/IM40 for the first time and it took FOREVER. Want to try it again and hopefully beat it a few more times.

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nicholasjohnconger wrote:

Moral wrote:

I'm leading with 20k in the main bracket so far. The Daken fight (simulation 4) is now level 223.

I haven't read the entire thread, but who are you guys using for this fight??? I've used Loki/Spidey/IM40 for the first time and it took FOREVER. Want to try it again and hopefully beat it a few more times.

Loki/Moonstone/Spiderman.

Generaly strategy:

Stun Daken before matching green. Match all green immediately (after stun) because you can't leave them up and take chances, even though my team makes no use of green.

Do NOT stun Wolverine 4* early on because you want him to waste their yellow on recovery tiles instead of Threaten tiles, because you won't have stun lock for a while. Damage should be directed to Wolverine 4* though, in case you accidentally killed him somehow and then you can quickly stun lock Daken, but don't worry if he manages to heal himself.

Use Gravity Warp/stuns to defend against the Muscle's uber CD tiles.

Steal the Threaten tile when you have 17 black (make sure it's only Threaten tiles on) and collect profit.

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cleptomaniac wrote:

My group's overall leader has like 30000 points. Is everyone's brackets pretty similar?

My main bracket leader sitting on 36K with a lead of about 8K.

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Phantron wrote:

nicholasjohnconger wrote:

Moral wrote:

I'm leading with 20k in the main bracket so far. The Daken fight (simulation 4) is now level 223.

I haven't read the entire thread, but who are you guys using for this fight??? I've used Loki/Spidey/IM40 for the first time and it took FOREVER. Want to try it again and hopefully beat it a few more times.

Loki/Moonstone/Spiderman.

Generaly strategy:

Stun Daken before matching green. Match all green immediately (after stun) because you can't leave them up and take chances, even though my team makes no use of green.

Do NOT stun Wolverine 4* early on because you want him to waste their yellow on recovery tiles instead of Threaten tiles, because you won't have stun lock for a while. Damage should be directed to Wolverine 4* though, in case you accidentally killed him somehow and then you can quickly stun lock Daken, but don't worry if he manages to heal himself.

Use Gravity Warp/stuns to defend against the Muscle's uber CD tiles.

Steal the Threaten tile when you have 17 black (make sure it's only Threaten tiles on) and collect profit.

Okay, more or less the same strategy I am using (sub IM40 Recharge and Unibeam for all Moonstone's abilities). Interesting how reliant I am on Patch for the quick matches nowadays. Used to be Thorverine, but now it's patch LoL

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nicholasjohnconger wrote:

Okay, more or less the same strategy I am using (sub IM40 Recharge and Unibeam for all Moonstone's abilities). Interesting how reliant I am on Patch for the quick matches nowadays. Used to be Thorverine, but now it's patch LoL

Yeah, I think in the first time I killed Wolverine 4* fine, and then was like 'hey how come I don't have Patch?' without realizing that he's the same person as Wolverine 4*, and then suddenly had a light bulb moment that Control Shift works on Threaten.

kensterr

nicholasjohnconger wrote:

Okay, more or less the same strategy I am using (sub IM40 Recharge and Unibeam for all Moonstone's abilities). Interesting how reliant I am on Patch for the quick matches nowadays. Used to be Thorverine, but now it's patch LoL

So you're using Patch, IM40 and ...? Reading up on everyone's strategy so that I can stop whining and see what can be done instead. I only have 1 spidey blue, so not too sure how to go about it.

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kensterr wrote:

nicholasjohnconger wrote:

Okay, more or less the same strategy I am using (sub IM40 Recharge and Unibeam for all Moonstone's abilities). Interesting how reliant I am on Patch for the quick matches nowadays. Used to be Thorverine, but now it's patch LoL

So you're using Patch, IM40 and ...? Reading up on everyone's strategy so that I can stop whining and see what can be done instead. I only have 1 spidey blue, so not too sure how to go about it.

Can't use Patch. He's the same guy as Wolverine 4*!

If you don't have Moonstone at a high level, might want to try to infinite combo with either Storms. Use IM40/Captain America to tank while you collect enough black to use Trickery, and with Trickery on board you should be mostly immune to damage (especially if you get the Threaten tiles). Without Spiderman, you'll have a hard time overcoming Daken's regen but that's what infinite combos are for. You should have plenty of time to collect tiles if you steal enough strike tiles.

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Madjam wrote:

I can understand scaling difficulty to stop grinding but i dont understand scaling difficulty to stop you playing.

The missions will end up giving 1 point towards the 8th+. If they want to prevent us from grinding that '1' point, then let them change it to 0.
No need to level scale or nothing!

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Phantron wrote:

kensterr wrote:

nicholasjohnconger wrote:

Okay, more or less the same strategy I am using (sub IM40 Recharge and Unibeam for all Moonstone's abilities). Interesting how reliant I am on Patch for the quick matches nowadays. Used to be Thorverine, but now it's patch LoL

So you're using Patch, IM40 and ...? Reading up on everyone's strategy so that I can stop whining and see what can be done instead. I only have 1 spidey blue, so not too sure how to go about it.

Can't use Patch. He's the same guy as Wolverine 4*!

If you don't have Moonstone at a high level, might want to try to infinite combo with either Storms. Use IM40/Captain America to tank while you collect enough black to use Trickery, and with Trickery on board you should be mostly immune to damage (especially if you get the Threaten tiles). Without Spiderman, you'll have a hard time overcoming Daken's regen but that's what infinite combos are for. You should have plenty of time to collect tiles if you steal enough strike tiles.

Typo LoL....beaten it a few times now, just takes forever. Ah well

kensterr

Phantron wrote:

Can't use Patch. He's the same guy as Wolverine 4*!

If you don't have Moonstone at a high level, might want to try to infinite combo with either Storms. Use IM40/Captain America to tank while you collect enough black to use Trickery, and with Trickery on board you should be mostly immune to damage (especially if you get the Threaten tiles). Without Spiderman, you'll have a hard time overcoming Daken's regen but that's what infinite combos are for. You should have plenty of time to collect tiles if you steal enough strike tiles.

Thanks! Help like this is infinitely more useful than me whining.

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Hi all,
I am stuck with the lvl 230 Daken/X/Muscle guys and I have no idea how I can clear this.
Appreciate if I can get some tips from you guys who have done it.
My current roster is:

lvl 85 Ares 4/4/5
lvl 85 Thor 5/5/3
lvl 80 Punisher 5/3/5
lvl 77 Hulk 4/2/2
lvl 75 Spidy 2/5/4
lvl 70 Capt 3/5/5
lvl 70 C Storm 5/5/3
lvl 61 OBW 3/2/5
lvl 50 Hood 4/4/1
lvl 30 IM 1/1/3
lvl 30 Loki 3/1
lvl 25 Rag 5/1
lvl 20 GSBW 1/1/1
lvl 19 Moonstone 5/4/4

Which combination should I use and what is the best sequence to down the mobs?
I only have about 17k ISO now and do I need to commit any ISO into my characters above? If so, which one?

Thanks!

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cweiguan wrote:

Hi all,
I am stuck with the lvl 230 Daken/X/Muscle guys and I have no idea how I can clear this.
Appreciate if I can get some tips from you guys who have done it.
My current roster is:

lvl 85 Ares 4/4/5
lvl 85 Thor 5/5/3
lvl 80 Punisher 5/3/5
lvl 77 Hulk 4/2/2
lvl 75 Spidy 2/5/4
lvl 70 Capt 3/5/5
lvl 70 C Storm 5/5/3
lvl 61 OBW 3/2/5
lvl 50 Hood 4/4/1
lvl 30 IM 1/1/3
lvl 30 Loki 3/1
lvl 25 Rag 5/1
lvl 20 GSBW 1/1/1
lvl 19 Moonstone 5/4/4

Which combination should I use and what is the best sequence to down the mobs?
I only have about 17k ISO now and do I need to commit any ISO into my characters above? If so, which one?

Thanks!

spidey/punisher/ares would be my choice
stun lock daken so he cant generate attack tiles, use ares and punisher to down muscle guy first.

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Agreed. Spidey to stun, punisher to 1 shot them when they're below 40%. Ares would make a heavy damage 3rd, it'd take too long for you to use Loki's tickery (though omg that's useful). Could sub in obw or hood. Save X-force for last. Daken -> muscle - X. Use boosts. Blue+pink, g/b and +mutant damage (or +3 all if you have the iso or have them stocked). Keep daken tied up when green can be matched. grab yellow to heal/kill daken.