No Holds Barred - Elite

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Also, keep in mind that Hulk and Patch share identical hit rating for Green and Red. So if you have Hulk in front to trigger Anger, you are basically rendering Patch's Red Ability useless. I personally like the the Hulk/Patch combo, but my lack of red for Hulk makes this a very limited combo. Despite the squishiness, I am really enjoying Patch/Spidey/Punisher. The rainbow makes every color useful in some way and you have a lot of options for offense and defense.

Spidey's stun lock is certainly useful, but unless they use the RagHammer on him, I think I'll still use his post-nerf. I really like having the ability to stun (even if only temporarily), heal, and put down protect tiles. I can't tell you how many times one or two stuns prevented a Recon or Wind Storm before I had enough AP to nuke. The protect tiles are suprisingly effective too. There is nothing more satisfying that Mag triggering a chain of cascades that cause -1 damage each.

Punisher is also very useful. When paired with Patch, his Molotov and Retribution are absolute game changers. Add in Spidey stuns and you have a recipe for death. However, I find that I rarely use his Green because because it's being saved for Beserker Rage. I regret putting 5 in Green over Black.

I really want to like Hulk. I do too, but it's mostly for his Anger due to the reasons I already mentioned. Despite his HP though, I find I'm using more packs with him on the crew rather than the other combo. I typically pull him out for defense, or when there is a "patch killer" on the board.

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Another bonus to Punisher is that you get to say "BANG!" as you are executing Hulk. This is a huge incentive, IMO.

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[/quote]Eh, I'm more of a defensive minded player so I guess I won't be going Patch then.[/quote]

Speed kills. Especially in these Elite tourney's where the sharks are constantly circling.

I still think a Maxed out Patch/IM40/Hulk collabo would be pretty damn devastating defense in this format. In a normal event, you could just stun lock with Spidey and take your sweet **** time. But in the upper ranks of Elite, the amount time you stay unshielded dictates life or death. Even if you're a juicy target, do you really want to spend 5 mins stun locking and grinding through these meat shields while avoiding a recharged TBTI attack or triggering the rolling cascade of death that is an Angry Hulk?

I've been using this trio in the Doubleshot Tourney to great effect, and if my IM40 was a little more buffed I think I would deploy in Elite NHB as well. Might give it a go tonight and see if I can't squeak a few defenses.

NorthernPolarity

AsianInvasion wrote:

Speed kills. Especially in these Elite tourney's where the sharks are constantly circling.

I still think a Maxed out Patch/IM40/Hulk collabo would be pretty damn devastating defense in this format. In a normal event, you could just stun lock with Spidey and take your sweet **** time. But in the upper ranks of Elite, the amount time you stay unshielded dictates life or death. Even if you're a juicy target, do you really want to spend 5 mins stun locking and grinding through these meat shields while avoiding a recharged TBTI attack or triggering the rolling cascade of death that is an Angry Hulk?

I've been using this trio in the Doubleshot Tourney to great effect, and if my IM40 was a little more buffed I think I would deploy in Elite NHB as well. Might give it a go tonight and see if I can't squeak a few defenses.

That is true as well. What Patch build are you running? I guess I need more time to think about this, as going for Patch would require me to ignore Punisher/Hulk and pump all my iso into Patch to get his best there is to a respectable level (need to pump 115k into Patch to make him viable given what I have...).

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Jachdo wrote:

Also, keep in mind that Hulk and Patch share identical hit rating for Green and Red. So if you have Hulk in front to trigger Anger, you are basically rendering Patch's Red Ability useless. I personally like the the Hulk/Patch combo, but my lack of red for Hulk makes this a very limited combo. Despite the squishiness, I am really enjoying Patch/Spidey/Punisher. The rainbow makes every color useful in some way and you have a lot of options for offense and defense.

Spidey's stun lock is certainly useful, but unless they use the RagHammer on him, I think I'll still use his post-nerf. I really like having the ability to stun (even if only temporarily), heal, and put down protect tiles. I can't tell you how many times one or two stuns prevented a Recon or Wind Storm before I had enough AP to nuke. The protect tiles are suprisingly effective too. There is nothing more satisfying that Mag triggering a chain of cascades that cause -1 damage each.

Punisher is also very useful. When paired with Patch, his Molotov and Retribution are absolute game changers. Add in Spidey stuns and you have a recipe for death. However, I find that I rarely use his Green because because it's being saved for Beserker Rage. I regret putting 5 in Green over Black.

I really want to like Hulk. I do too, but it's mostly for his Anger due to the reasons I already mentioned. Despite his HP though, I find I'm using more packs with him on the crew rather than the other combo. I typically pull him out for defense, or when there is a "patch killer" on the board.

I've been keeping Patch slighty ahead of Hulk so he tanks everything but Black... that way when the opponent reaches critical AP mass, I can match a black, have Hulk take the shot and trigger anger. With Punisher as third, he'll take on purple and black which takes away my ability to move Hulk out front when I want to, but I like having the retribution option vs tankier opponents or for a quick kill early on if necessary.

That's why I really want Mags as my 3rd. Gives me the blue and purple coverage I need, can still use black to move Hulk front and center, and another devastating one shot kill attack, which pretty much forces opponents to kill Mags first allowing Patch the time to get cooking.

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Worked myself up to around rank 600, lost 2 matches because of stupid mistakes... that's what you get for playing tired. Got hit twice in the meantime... dropped to 1001 with no health packs left.

Oh well... hope I at least finish in the 1001-2000 zone... not really worth the 450 hp (shielded 8h because gotta sleep now), but alright I guess

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NorthernPolarity wrote:

AsianInvasion wrote:

Speed kills. Especially in these Elite tourney's where the sharks are constantly circling.

I still think a Maxed out Patch/IM40/Hulk collabo would be pretty damn devastating defense in this format. In a normal event, you could just stun lock with Spidey and take your sweet **** time. But in the upper ranks of Elite, the amount time you stay unshielded dictates life or death. Even if you're a juicy target, do you really want to spend 5 mins stun locking and grinding through these meat shields while avoiding a recharged TBTI attack or triggering the rolling cascade of death that is an Angry Hulk?

I've been using this trio in the Doubleshot Tourney to great effect, and if my IM40 was a little more buffed I think I would deploy in Elite NHB as well. Might give it a go tonight and see if I can't squeak a few defenses.

That is true as well. What Patch build are you running? I guess I need more time to think about this, as going for Patch would require me to ignore Punisher/Hulk and pump all my iso into Patch to get his best there is to a respectable level (need to pump 115k into Patch to make him viable given what I have...).

3/5/5... I really had a hard time deciding between 5/5/3 and 3/5/5, but once they made attacks a one chance proposition, the downside of berserker raging and failing to kill or stun everyone would come back and bite me in the **** too often for my tastes. I've already have multiple games where AI Patch loads me up with six purple strike tiles, I match off three of his green tiles and then I launch a beserker of my own. Also he's basically immune to match damage and can be taken into battle at less than 100% with max yellow. If you're not going to max his red, why bother playing with him at all.

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Healing Factor at level 3 is more than enough to deal with match 3 damage. The only time level 5 comes into play is if you're tanking multiple big moves with Patch. Normally yellow is one of the worst tiles so you might as well leave them up for regeneration purposes, and if the enemy matches yellow it's almost like them skipping their turn because yellow is weak overall.

It'll be interesting to see how the eventual nerf on Spiderman interacts with Healing Factor at level 5 for defensive purposes. Right now it doesn't matter because Spiderman can stunlock any one person forever. I suspect he'll still be able to stun one guy long enough to kill him, but we'll have to see what exactly happens to Spiderman first.

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So what happened to koolbiird? He disappeared and hasn't come back...

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I'm irked that peanutpanda and canatian have passed me up. I still am in 0 point hell

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Ughhh... finally found canatian and jose, thought i got canatian, but his shield was up before i closed out the match. ended up losing pts thanks to -46 loss during 2nd fight vs jose. looks like it's gonna be one fight at a time for the duration.

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Got to love when someone in their frenzy for winning underestimates the Patch Kamikaze and hands me 30+ points, pushing me from an uncertain to almost-certain top 100.

If nothing major happens, this event gain will be... trivial. Fun but not incredibly rewarding

expenses (675 hp total)
300 hp for entry
75+75+75+150 hp for shields (small prudent pushes + final "I need to sleep" until the end > 4,5h )

expected win
500 hp
3 heroic tokens
5000 iso

net gain
-175 hp (loss)
3 heroic tokens
5000 iso
+ a bit of adrenaline in the last push
- feeling actually rewarded

Anyone using a comparable amount of shields but not breaking into top 100 got also royally screwed imo
I was averagely fun but I'm totally not doing this again, too much hardcore and the good stuff is too scarce to do it half heartedly. Needs to either be fully committed and be prepared to blast 2k+ hp in shields, or just not bother at all.

Progression prizes would make it better, then again more people would join to not miss up the extra stuff. Then again, would that be really bad? Probably not.

Nemek

AsianInvasion wrote:

Ughhh... finally found canatian and jose, thought i got canatian, but his shield was up before i closed out the match. ended up losing pts thanks to -46 loss during 2nd fight vs jose. looks like it's gonna be one fight at a time for the duration.

Whattttt...you were actually able to find them...*grumble grumble*

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Don't forget the ISO gain from all the fights along the way, Il Palazzo.

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Nemek wrote:

AsianInvasion wrote:

Ughhh... finally found canatian and jose, thought i got canatian, but his shield was up before i closed out the match. ended up losing pts thanks to -46 loss during 2nd fight vs jose. looks like it's gonna be one fight at a time for the duration.

Whattttt...you were actually able to find them...*grumble grumble*

Should've shielded after first attack. You think I would've carried over the lessons learned in the first elite tourney.

now i'm back in zero hell and one spot away from 11th place fail...

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RangoFett wrote:

Optimates wrote:

AsianInvasion wrote:

Then looks like some people found Rango... lol.

Yeah, saw rango climbing up then he disappeared. Probably went through 100 matches trying to get him, but nothing.

As far as my plan, I don't know. Pray they fix this matchmaking mess for right now.

Gah. I managed to get a few queued up, did them as quickly as possible, shielded. Then 5 minutes later was notified of getting hit for like 40, and then five minutes after that, notified I was beat by josemartins for -26. I've got my retal queued up, but not happy one bit.

I want to vomit, cry, and scream all at once. I went to lunch shortly after I made the above post, and when I came back, I had a slew of attacked messages. Even though my screen shows me as being shielded (I have a screenshot I sent in with a support ticket) I have apparently been visible and unshielded for everyone else. I am now completely out of the running for third place, which is the only thing I cared about, and missed on sleep and spent hours trying to fight for this weekend. All gone in less than an hour. I sent in a ticket through the in-game system and an email, and I'll probably post in the Bugs forum as well, but I don't know how they can make it right at this point. Even if they refund me all of my points, there are almost certainly people who beat me who have leapfrogged past where I was previously. I don't want to go on playing the tournament at this point, but if they do refund me my points and I would still have the tiniest chance of getting third, then I want to keep going. I am devastated. I know it's just a game, and I'll be fine a week from now regardless of the outcome, but right now...

Morning all (G'evening to the other side of the world). When i woke up this morning and check the game i saw the dreaded red message that I have been attacked and i lost points! My balls literally dropped to the floor and i panicked (how can it be? I had a 24 hour shield!). Then i realized it was for the doubleshot tournament and not the elite, haha.

Rango i saw you last night unshielded on the board and was wondering what the heck you were doing unshielded for so long. Tried very hard to matchmake a game with you but no dice... I had a problem the other day as well where i just couldn't press the shield button (it refused to respond). I had to force close my app and restart. I lost about 40 points during horrible experience, thank goodness this was still early on out...

Nemek

Looks like we're back in business...?

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Nemek wrote:

Looks like we're back in business...?

Still 0 point hell for me..... where is the love?

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Oh, wierd. I just noticed something. On my galaxy s3

I notice that if I press skip at a certain frequency, the character lineup changes, although it appears the player is the same. I noticed that if I keep skipping this way, there's a chance I'll see a c.magneto or a p.wolverine. That's when I stop.

It goes back to 0 point hell on a whim.

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To anyone who has played competitively in both Elite tourneys: How does this tourney compare to last? Mmr is better, worse, the same? Has it been more fun than last? Why? Did any issues arise in this tourny that did not in the last? Do you feel your previous experience helped you in this one? I am very curious.

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i got lucky and caught a match with brady and jose earlier, lots of movement in the last 10 minutes, getting exciting