No Holds Barred - Elite

itstime1234

Koolbiird wrote:

Optimates wrote:

Koolbiird wrote:

Can't find Josemartins...ugh stuck here

Yeah, I'm definitely never wasting money on this again. It's just stupid. My only choice now is to grind on one pointers, but he problem there is that it does make you show up on peoples queues way below you. Got attacked three times for 40 points a pop, way too risky.

I agree on all counts. I definitely see why Walkyourpath sat this is one out.

I just saw him listed in the tourney. Hes at 735 points right now.

itstime1234

Oh and FYI for anyone with a mid strong team, I am at 673 points which is good for #280 right now. So I think top 1000 is very doable is you have 3 3* 100 level players.

Deimos12

Any thoughts on if a roster of lvl 100 Patch, lvl 90 punisher, 85 OBW or Ares would be able to crack the top 1,000??

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I used to get that (bug?/anti-exploit feature?/anti-progression feature?) where you would get matched against players with low points when you pass a certain milestone. After a couple of tournaments where I had to keep shielding to maintain position (wasting LOTS of HP) I eventually decided to just started hitting the low level teams for fast iso-8 when it happened. I had one run of a couple of hours before it decided to stop matching me up vs low level teams, but usually it would stop much sooner. Of course, in this high-stakes tournament farming iso-8 in this way isn't really a good idea.

itstime1234

Deimos12 wrote:

Any thoughts on if a roster of lvl 100 Patch, lvl 90 punisher, 85 OBW or Ares would be able to crack the top 1,000??

I def think its doable. Depending on how well they play together and who you are normally able to take down. Also I think your MMR makes a difference here since people that are in my ranking range dont have a strong team at all so I think a lot of the big players cant see them.

I am running a 119 Patch, 104 Spidey and 104 Mags.

Unknown

Blah I'm debating joining and pushing for top 100.

The 2000 ISO would be nice, but I don't want to risk pissing away 300 HP.

Unknown

It's gotta be some sort of bug. I actually had one of the top ten guys come up for me while they were I shielded and got a fight in, then back to 0 point opponents.

Koolbiird saw you dropped some what happened?

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Initially, I thought joining this was an awesome idea. That view has degraded somewhat though. Not because of the format, but rather one particular problem: I see spiderman everywhere I look. This has dulled the enjoyment of the event by a wide margin. Is it trash because of that? No. But it is the same problem I had before. Seeing the same character over and over again is mind numbing. With these elite tourneys, I think they should have waited until after the balance changes.

I have a 3/5/5 spidey on my bench, but as a matter or morals, I cannot bring myself to use him. That may put me at a disadvantage, and I don't expect anyone else to follow that ethos, but it does get to point of where you just go " well, eff this."

The consolation for this at least is getting a heroic, but they definitely need to hold off on these elite tourneys until it's all figured out in character balance.

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Optimates wrote:

It's gotta be some sort of bug. I actually had one of the top ten guys come up for me while they were I shielded and got a fight in, then back to 0 point opponents.

Koolbiird saw you dropped some what happened?

I was fighting Neil256 141 GSBW 141 Spidey 141 Hulk. Killed Spidey. Wife calls me about dinner, and forgot to stun Hulk. He gets off 1 Anger that leads to a cascade that leads to Thunderclap that leads to Deceptive Tactics that leads to a freakin Forest Fire that leads to a Smash that leaves me thinking...why did I forget to stun Hulk.

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Koolbiird wrote:

Optimates wrote:

It's gotta be some sort of bug. I actually had one of the top ten guys come up for me while they were I shielded and got a fight in, then back to 0 point opponents.

Koolbiird saw you dropped some what happened?

I was fighting Neil256 141 GSBW 141 Spidey 141 Hulk. Killed Spidey. Wife calls me about dinner, and forgot to stun Hulk. He gets off 1 Anger that leads to a cascade that leads to Thunderclap that leads to Deceptive Tactics that leads to a freakin Forest Fire that leads to a Smash that leaves me thinking...why did I forget to stun Hulk.

Lol. Ah, I feel your pain. Early on, I attacked brady - pretty much same exact thing happened. Rushed through the fight, forgot to stun, got crushed by hulk angry and a massive cascade. Now I'm super paranoid whenever I fight hulk, which is just about every fight now.

Unknown

Ugh. I was all ready to shield my way to the end and just end up in the top 30 or so, but then I got lucky and caught two of the other top 10 people unshielded and I have them queued up now, enough to get me back within spitting distance of third... Everytime I try to quit you just drag me back in MPQ! WHY CAN'T I QUIT YOU?!

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itstime1234 wrote:

Oh and FYI for anyone with a mid strong team, I am at 673 points which is good for #280 right now. So I think top 1000 is very doable is you have 3 3* 100 level players.

I agree. I think Top 1000 should be doable for most people with 3* characters 100 level characters. I am rocking a Lv 102 Spidey, Lv 106 GSBW and Lv 85 Thor and I think I will finish Top 1000 for sure without shielding at all. And I think maxed 2* teams could get into the Top 1000 too but they would probably need make a big run and then shield up - so it might cost more than it is worth.

jozier wrote:

Blah I'm debating joining and pushing for top 100.

The 2000 ISO would be nice, but I don't want to risk pissing away 300 HP.

I bet getting a spot in the top 100 (and higher) will be super competitive since that is when the tourney begins paying for itself. Rewards under 100 are not all that different from each other not really worth shielding to protect rank. In my opinion at least.

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Optimates wrote:

Lol. Ah, I feel your pain. Early on, I attacked brady - pretty much same exact thing happened. Rushed through the fight, forgot to stun, got crushed by hulk angry and a massive cascade. Now I'm super paranoid whenever I fight hulk, which is just about every fight now.

It's what I deserve though. I kept putting her off all day trying to gain some ground. Im gonna fight one more team and shield for the night. Just not my day.

Unknown

Twysta wrote:

Personally I'd love to see the chaos if you could see shielded opponents in the fight queue for these.
That would certainly stop the problem of not being able to find points.

Why don't they put shielded people in the fight queue for the elite tourneys? It is too competitive for anyone to put in a tank team. And if people want to fight your team for points, they still have to win to get the points? I don't see what the point of taking the shielded people out of the fight queue is in elite tourneys? But I have never been in it high enough to be competitive. Would one of the top 10 (from this elite tourney or last) care to explain it to me? Thanks very much in advance.

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pandaberry6 wrote:

Twysta wrote:

Personally I'd love to see the chaos if you could see shielded opponents in the fight queue for these.
That would certainly stop the problem of not being able to find points.

Why don't they put shielded people in the fight queue for the elite tourneys? It is too competitive for anyone to put in a tank team. And if people want to fight your team for points, they still have to win to get the points? I don't see what the point of taking the shielded people out of the fight queue is in elite tourneys? But I have never been in it high enough to be competitive. Would one of the top 10 (from this elite tourney or last) care to explain it to me? Thanks very much in advance.

From all we can tell, seeing shielded opponents in the fight queue has been removed from the code for all tourneys, elite or not. This was because there was a gold rush on Shield Training and regular tourney progression rewards when shields were first introduced, and removing shielded peeps served to keep the point ceiling lower.

I personally think that making PvP rewards entirely placement based, or more like lightning rounds, where everybody gets a few low value progs would be best. That way they can tweak matchmaking in PvP without worrying about giving away the farm. They're already moving towards making PvE more progression based, so it seems like a natural move to stop dangling prog rewards out of reach in PvP.

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pandaberry6 wrote:

Twysta wrote:

Personally I'd love to see the chaos if you could see shielded opponents in the fight queue for these.
That would certainly stop the problem of not being able to find points.

Why don't they put shielded people in the fight queue for the elite tourneys? It is too competitive for anyone to put in a tank team. And if people want to fight your team for points, they still have to win to get the points? I don't see what the point of taking the shielded people out of the fight queue is in elite tourneys? But I have never been in it high enough to be competitive. Would one of the top 10 (from this elite tourney or last) care to explain it to me? Thanks very much in advance.

The issue with shields was never tank teams. It's that people can bounce off shielded people and rise up the leaderboards in a crazy fashion. It pulls points out of thin air which the devs don't want.

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Deimos12 wrote:

Any thoughts on if a roster of lvl 100 Patch, lvl 90 punisher, 85 OBW or Ares would be able to crack the top 1,000??

I'm not using patch, but he's essential to most of the players in the top 10.

Nemek

Looks like Josemartins got hit for a good amount...

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Fodder2009 just hit me four times in 70 seconds. Is this legit?

he's running 77 thor, 111 punisher, 120 patch wolv

edit* i never attacked him so none of the attacks were retals. He scrolled through, found me, and won four times in 70 seconds. How is this possible?

edit2* i was at 1100 at the time and he was around 940 when he first hit me, but there were three notifications within the 40 seconds it took me to clear my fight and shield.

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Nemek. I see you. I love hulk when the board is lacking green. I can always count on him to add a little color.
Jachdo...





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