Dauthi's 3* Guide - Who to level and how to build 'em! 03/09

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  • mckauhu
    mckauhu Posts: 740 Critical Contributor
    I have been following this guide ever since got to forums, great work man! icon_e_smile.gif And I totally agree that Thanos is currently the most balanced character in the 3* realm.

    My guess is that Hawkguy will be high tier because of healing and great versatility of his powers but he is a bit slow and his CD tiles can be matched away. Definitely good in goon nodes though!
  • Skrofa
    Skrofa Posts: 388 Mover and Shaker
    mckauhu wrote:
    I have been following this guide ever since got to forums, great work man! icon_e_smile.gif And I totally agree that Thanos is currently the most balanced character in the 3* realm.

    My guess is that Hawkguy will be high tier because of healing and great versatility of his powers but he is a bit slow and his CD tiles can be matched away. Definitely good in goon nodes though!

    Also... the fact that his powers overlap (2/3)with Coulson doesn't help him much.

    I like him and as soon as he is champed I will be using him a lot I think, but he needs a good team.

    I feel like when trying to build an mtg deck. Would I build a team around him? Nah. But he is nice to have in a team
  • Alsmir
    Alsmir Posts: 508 Critical Contributor
    Few thoughts about couple of characters:

    Hulk - mostly bad, bad an integral part of Hulkfinite team. Great guy for boss fights, and for that reason alone I'd say it's worth champing him when you have some spare ISO.
    Same for Mohawk Storm, as she feels to weak in any other circumstances.

    Black Widow - trash, unless you can run Charlie's Angels. Crucial role in a winfinite team, I can't imagine not having her in my roster.

    Deadpool - utter trash and massive disappointment. Red can't finish an opponent and has a damage cap. Pink costs too much for the damage. Black is meh.

    Mystique - high tier my ****. I champed her few months ago and maybe used her twice. Doesn't feel good at all.

    Daken - haha. Strike tiles are weak, generating them is unpredictable, damage is terrible. Just a guy who sits in the corner and creates annoying animations when green is matched.

    Kamala - top tier for me. Versatile and fun. Maxed yellow helps tremendously in endurance fights (or when using Thanos). Green is an excellent AoE nuke, pink accelerates her nuke.

    She- Hulk - bottom tier, unless you get unlucky with her green, she won't do anything. Are we talking just about PvP here or what?
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Alsmir wrote:
    Deadpool - utter trash and massive disappointment. Red can't finish an opponent and has a damage cap. Pink costs too much for the damage. Black is meh.
    For 6 AP, Deadpool's red Power does the same damage as Human Torch's Fireball, which is generally considered one of the top red skills in Three-star land. That's an excellent AP-to-damage ratio even if it is best used early in the fight to soften the opponent up, then you can drop a whale on them to finish them off. I agree black is not very good though.
    It's quite possible to take someone out with ALOTT too as long as you have some decent strike tiles on the board.
  • Alsmir
    Alsmir Posts: 508 Critical Contributor
    Quebbster wrote:
    Alsmir wrote:
    Deadpool - utter trash and massive disappointment. Red can't finish an opponent and has a damage cap. Pink costs too much for the damage. Black is meh.
    For 6 AP, Deadpool's red Power does the same damage as Human Torch's Fireball, which is generally considered one of the top red skills in Three-star land. That's an excellent AP-to-damage ratio even if it is best used early in the fight to soften the opponent up, then you can drop a whale on them to finish them off. I agree black is not very good though.
    It's quite possible to take someone out with ALOTT too as long as you have some decent strike tiles on the board.

    But I'd never pick him just because of his one power. There are maybe a few characters that I ever pick just to use their one power, but it has to be really exceptional: Prof X, Switch or someone really situational.
    Picking Dpool just for his red, that is only good at the beginning of the fight is a no-no.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Alsmir wrote:
    Quebbster wrote:
    Alsmir wrote:
    Deadpool - utter trash and massive disappointment. Red can't finish an opponent and has a damage cap. Pink costs too much for the damage. Black is meh.
    For 6 AP, Deadpool's red Power does the same damage as Human Torch's Fireball, which is generally considered one of the top red skills in Three-star land. That's an excellent AP-to-damage ratio even if it is best used early in the fight to soften the opponent up, then you can drop a whale on them to finish them off. I agree black is not very good though.
    It's quite possible to take someone out with ALOTT too as long as you have some decent strike tiles on the board.

    But I'd never pick him just because of his one power. There are maybe a few characters that I ever pick just to use their one power, but it has to be really exceptional: Prof X, Switch or someone really situational.
    Picking Dpool just for his red, that is only good at the beginning of the fight is a no-no.
    True. His Purple is the real important Power. Red is a nice complement to it though. Mega-whaling difficult fights can be invaluable.
  • Alsmir
    Alsmir Posts: 508 Critical Contributor
    Quebbster wrote:
    Alsmir wrote:
    Quebbster wrote:
    Alsmir wrote:
    Deadpool - utter trash and massive disappointment. Red can't finish an opponent and has a damage cap. Pink costs too much for the damage. Black is meh.
    For 6 AP, Deadpool's red Power does the same damage as Human Torch's Fireball, which is generally considered one of the top red skills in Three-star land. That's an excellent AP-to-damage ratio even if it is best used early in the fight to soften the opponent up, then you can drop a whale on them to finish them off. I agree black is not very good though.
    It's quite possible to take someone out with ALOTT too as long as you have some decent strike tiles on the board.

    But I'd never pick him just because of his one power. There are maybe a few characters that I ever pick just to use their one power, but it has to be really exceptional: Prof X, Switch or someone really situational.
    Picking Dpool just for his red, that is only good at the beginning of the fight is a no-no.
    True. His Purple is the real important Power. Red is a nice complement to it though. Mega-whaling difficult fights can be invaluable.

    Agreed.
    Very situational but he has some value.
  • Bokky
    Bokky Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
    Is my planned 3* team the best? My reasoning for PVP Defence teams is that high HP will discourage attacks.

    3* PVP Offence - IM40, Cap. America. +Kamala Khan (Ms.Marvel) for Simulation PVP
    3* PVP Defence - Thanos, Hulk. +Rocket and Groot for Simulation PVP
    3* PVE - Dr. Strange, Thanos. +Patch for non-Essentials
  • Falconfreak
    Falconfreak Posts: 119 Tile Toppler
    Is this list still accurate in July 2019?
  • TPF Alexis
    TPF Alexis Posts: 3,826 Chairperson of the Boards
    Falconfreak said:
    Is this list still accurate in July 2019?
    Much of it is, but not all:
    • Spider-man has moved way up since his yellow was re-worked.
    • Falcon should also be higher, since the game has shifted to a greater focus on Special Tiles. He can actually stay relevant well into 4* play given how well he combos with some 4*.
    • There's a PvP focus, so the strict numerical rankings don't always tell the whole story (like how Black Widow is amazing in Boss Events).
    • Vision is great if and only if he's one of the highest level Characters on the team, so he tanks as much as possible. Otherwise, he's pretty useless.
    • Not sure I'd still call Mystique, Beast, or Hood high tier anymore.
    • I would also rank Doom lower, since it gets hard to gather enough purple to fire his nuke without matching away the Traps that fuel it.
    • Magneto is good, but not #2 of the high tier good. Still high tier, just lower in it.
    • She-Hulk is way too random to be top tier. It makes her really frustrating to play against, but too unreliable to use well consistently.
    • As much as I like Blade and Thor, I don't feel like they're top tier. High tier, sure, but not top. Similarly to She-Hulk, but to a lesser extent, they have the potential to get way out of hand, but can't do it quite reliably enough, and are really vulnerable to bad boards.
    • Cyclops is probably a bit lower, since there's been more shift toward Special tiles and Passives, but he's still good.
    • Of the 3* added since this was last updated, Elektra is bottom tier, Gambit and Angel are mid tier, Star-Lord is probably mid high tier, and Hawkguy is top tier.
    • To me, the Big Three of the 3* are Strange, Thanos, and IM40. I might almost put them in a separate, tip-top tier.
  • Falconfreak
    Falconfreak Posts: 119 Tile Toppler
    I'm honestly shocked how good Hawkguy is and how well he works with my teams.

    Is Thanos more than the low level quick node kill 'em all guy? I could champ him but have held off because of how much his AOE hurts his allies.
  • TPF Alexis
    TPF Alexis Posts: 3,826 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thanos is the speed king. He chews through your health packs, but if you're going for Placement, no one else can beat the boost he brings. Put him with some random single-cover 5* for good match damage and because you're not going to need them otherwise, so you don't care how beat up they get. Or True Healers like Daken, Patch, or 3* R&G. Later on, he combos with Grocket and Okoye for absolutely ridiculous speed, but even just with other 3*, he really makes a difference.
    He's also the one who makes Lightning Rounds worthwhile. Similar story, Loaner, Thanos, 5* chump. Lets you get through 7-9 Seed Teams if you jump in right at the start, and then one more harder match will usually get you to 250. Ends up being a pretty nice chunk of ISO if you hit several of them every week like that.
  • Falconfreak
    Falconfreak Posts: 119 Tile Toppler
    That's exactly how I've used Thanos so far in pve but never thought he could be worth it in PVP. Does he have any value beyond quick clears for the easy nodes?
  • TPF Alexis
    TPF Alexis Posts: 3,826 Chairperson of the Boards
    In combination with Strike tile generators, he can start doing ludicrous amounts of damage. Especially in Wave nodes, where the individual enemies tend to be a bit lower level and you have more time to build up your Strikes. Give him a try with Patch and either Daken or Rocket & Groot.

    He does expand in usefulness more once you get into the 4* tier, where there are a lot more tile Specialists. In 3* land, he's mostly a PvE Character, except for clearing Seed Teams. He can also be fun in PvP during Release events, when everyone's using the relatively squishy Loaner.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,272 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thanos is also a PvP scarecrow to some extent because of his high health and the fact that if you take a badly damaged character in (I am guilty of this - might as well wait until the character is downed to use a healthpack eh?) or a loaner and they are downed you are going to eat a cheap Court Death from the AI which might be disastrous. He is too slow otherwise to be much of a PvP threat I'm afraid.
  • JasonLikesToTravel
    JasonLikesToTravel Posts: 35 Just Dropped In
    Really useful guide thank you. Relatively new player and good to know which 3's I should be prioritising with the limited roster spots at the moment. 
  • hothie
    hothie Posts: 210 Tile Toppler
    As a 4* player, here are the 3*s that I still use, and how I use them (usually in PvP):

    1. Captain Marvel, combined with Polaris, when she fires her red she destroys all enemy protect tiles, and then Polaris creates 3 protect tiles for each one destroyed, So you effectively flip the board from having a board of enemy protects to a board full of even more friendly protects. She is great against BRB/Polaris combos that occur fairly regularly.

    2. Hawkeye-again combined with Polaris and facing off against Polaris/Grocket, when you match enemy specials, he creates blue and purple AP for you. That means I can usually fire my Polaris stun before the enemy team does. This can be game changing, firing my stun first.

    3. Black Widow, I used her often with 2* Bullseye and 3* Magneto to make a winfinite team while I was in 3* land. I still sometimes combine her with 2* Bullseye in PvE  to try and beat some of the harder 5* nodes in SCL9, and they can still bring it sometimes. Her and Bullseye together can get you through some tough times. With Magneto, though, they are really a formidable 3-some.

    4. Magneto. See above, and he's pretty effective on his own as well.

    5. The Hulk can be very good against Polaris, as she deals a ton of damage, which will trigger his board destroying shenanigans. He is not to be underestimated.

    6. The other 3*s that you will want to sharget are the ones that are used in Lightning Rounds. Get them up as high as you can, and they will pay off for many moons to come.

    7. I use many in Puzzle Gaunlets as well. Get to know what their abilities are, so, for instance, when you have to create green tiles or AP, know that The Hulk and Kamala (or Black Widow) will do well for you.

    There are many more that are useful in certain situations (IM40, Strange, Spiderman, Cyclops, Thanos), so having a good stable will do well for you.

    Hope that helps. :)
  • JasonLikesToTravel
    JasonLikesToTravel Posts: 35 Just Dropped In
    hothie said:
    As a 4* player, here are the 3*s that I still use, and how I use them (usually in PvP):

    1. Captain Marvel, combined with Polaris, when she fires her red she destroys all enemy protect tiles, and then Polaris creates 3 protect tiles for each one destroyed, So you effectively flip the board from having a board of enemy protects to a board full of even more friendly protects. She is great against BRB/Polaris combos that occur fairly regularly.

    2. Hawkeye-again combined with Polaris and facing off against Polaris/Grocket, when you match enemy specials, he creates blue and purple AP for you. That means I can usually fire my Polaris stun before the enemy team does. This can be game changing, firing my stun first.

    3. Black Widow, I used her often with 2* Bullseye and 3* Magneto to make a winfinite team while I was in 3* land. I still sometimes combine her with 2* Bullseye in PvE  to try and beat some of the harder 5* nodes in SCL9, and they can still bring it sometimes. Her and Bullseye together can get you through some tough times. With Magneto, though, they are really a formidable 3-some.

    4. Magneto. See above, and he's pretty effective on his own as well.

    5. The Hulk can be very good against Polaris, as she deals a ton of damage, which will trigger his board destroying shenanigans. He is not to be underestimated.

    6. The other 3*s that you will want to sharget are the ones that are used in Lightning Rounds. Get them up as high as you can, and they will pay off for many moons to come.

    7. I use many in Puzzle Gaunlets as well. Get to know what their abilities are, so, for instance, when you have to create green tiles or AP, know that The Hulk and Kamala (or Black Widow) will do well for you.

    There are many more that are useful in certain situations (IM40, Strange, Spiderman, Cyclops, Thanos), so having a good stable will do well for you.

    Hope that helps. :)
    Thank you! I appreciate all of the advice!

    My roster's looking a bit stronger than it was when I posted three weeks ago but still under 40 slots so limited to how many 3's I have. Still a few of the characters you've listed that I haven't recruited yet but I'll certainly keep the tips in mind!

    The puzzle gauntlets have been fun playing around with certain characters and getting to know their strengths a bit better :)

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