Oscorp Heroic Mode

reckless442

Phantron wrote:

bahamut685 wrote:

jozier wrote:

I woke up and nobody in my bracket had done anything. So I'm about to take first and I'm barely going to play this garbage because it's boring and not remotely fun to spend 10 minutes whittling stunlocked goons down to nothing.

The reason most people aren't moving is due to not having Spidey with level 5 Blue / Grey Widow with 5 Green.

The only essential character is Spiderman with 5 blue (not like everyone doesn't already know he's overpowered). Even with a level 2 Deceptive Tactics GSBW can easily save you from almost any minion battle. Level 5 Sniper Rifle just helps to deal with your sanity so you don't have to do match 3 for the next 15 minutes after Spiderman has the opposition stun locked.

I have Spidey with 5 blue and GBW with Level 5 Sniper Rifle and each match is still taking 20-30 minutes. I've been grinding much of the day and am now in 1st in my bracket with about 4,300 pts, but there's no way I can continue playing at this rate once the workweek begins. The problem I'm finding is that my characters do barely any damage in their base attacks, so those are essentially useless. It's even better when you're attacking Lvl 230 Daken and his healing power cures more health than you can take with your attacks or, my personal favorite, getting -1 for multiple attacks because Bullseye's passive Adamantium Bones power has created a protect tile that: (1) you can't reach and (2) completely negates any damage you can do.

That's the thing that is so ridiculous about the scaling. When low-level Hammer soldiers have 6,000 health, my characters' max damage of 150 is pretty useless. And that hot dog stand bonus of 50 health does me a lot of good when the Pyro causes over 2,000 damages to my entire team and other Level 230 attacks cause five-digit damage.

Frankly, I hate the idea of nerfing Spidey. Yes, he's powerful, but he's a 3* character so he should be. And as it is, he has no offensive powers to speak of. There are plenty of times when the board dries up of blues tiles. A skilled player can use him to great effect, but it requires a lot of planning to ensure that you collect enough blues during the game to make him effective. If the Devs nerf him to make the stunlock more expensive, the events are going to be impossible.

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reckless442 wrote:

Phantron wrote:

bahamut685 wrote:

jozier wrote:

I woke up and nobody in my bracket had done anything. So I'm about to take first and I'm barely going to play this garbage because it's boring and not remotely fun to spend 10 minutes whittling stunlocked goons down to nothing.

The reason most people aren't moving is due to not having Spidey with level 5 Blue / Grey Widow with 5 Green.

The only essential character is Spiderman with 5 blue (not like everyone doesn't already know he's overpowered). Even with a level 2 Deceptive Tactics GSBW can easily save you from almost any minion battle. Level 5 Sniper Rifle just helps to deal with your sanity so you don't have to do match 3 for the next 15 minutes after Spiderman has the opposition stun locked.

I have Spidey with 5 blue and GBW with Level 5 Sniper Rifle and each match is still taking 20-30 minutes. I've been grinding much of the day and am now in 1st in my bracket with about 4,300 pts, but there's no way I can continue playing at this rate once the workweek begins. The problem I'm finding is that my characters do barely any damage in their base attacks, so those are essentially useless. It's even better when you're attacking Lvl 230 Daken and his healing power cures more health than you can take with your attacks or, my personal favorite, getting -1 for multiple attacks because Bullseye's passive Adamantium Bones power has created a protect tile that: (1) you can't reach and (2) completely negates any damage you can do.

That's the thing that is so ridiculous about the scaling. When low-level Hammer soldiers have 6,000 health, my characters' max damage of 150 is pretty useless. And that hot dog stand bonus of 50 health does me a lot of good when the Pyro causes over 2,000 damages to my entire team and other Level 230 attacks cause five-digit damage.

Frankly, I hate the idea of nerfing Spidey. Yes, he's powerful, but he's a 3* character so he should be. And as it is, he has no offensive powers to speak of. There are plenty of times when the board dries up of blues tiles. A skilled player can use him to great effect, but it requires a lot of planning to ensure that you collect enough blues during the game to make him effective. If the Devs nerf him to make the stunlock more expensive, the events are going to be impossible.

If I were part of the "nerf Spidey" crowd I might point out that this event is already impossible if you don't have him.

Grats on your 4,300 points. I've got 280. If one single character is the sole reason for your success, and if one single character is the reason I can't progress at all, then under normal circumstances I'd say that character is overpowered. Considering how messed up this game is right now though, I won't pin it all on Spider-Man.

Unknown

Level scaling is totally broken, game shouldn't take in account number of covers, which totally dumb as someone can have a lot of covers, but only poor lvl heroes.
This game is unplayable, we can't beat lvl 230 ennemies with lvl 40 2* heroes, even with lvl 85 when i think about it... ^ ^

In my roster, the top leader [Gill3tte] got 4124 points in 3 days with only lvl 36 black window, lvl 25 ironman, and (oh cheated !) a lvl 23 Storm !!
Myself ? Got 80 points, i can't beat lvl 230 team and i haven't sufficient time to do 30 minutes fight in this kind of (quick) game.

Do whatever you can do, but fix this game or lost (a lot of) players.
We can't play it !

Vohnkar

Hi, I need some help to know if theres something wrong with the event or it's something I don't know happening.

My rooster is not too powerful for this event, so I assume i won't be able to progress too much, but I should be able to do fine on the rankings, top 50 maybe. The problem is that 3rd mission is lvl 88-90 for me (not sure if its the same lvl for everyone, thats one of the things that bothers me). I can manage to beat the granadier and soldiers using some +3 blue/+20% hammer dmg. They do tons of dmg to my heroes, but I can handle them,

The problem is that they give me 24 points, then 12, 8... so I'm aroung 325 after repeating the 3 first missions like 6 times each or so, yesterday 4 times the first 2 missions and 2 times 3rd one (4th and 5th I did it once using 150% hammer dmg). I look at the rankings and right now the guy above me has a rooster that should make him imposible to do past 2nd mission, come one! how is it possible that people with irom mam as their only hight lvl heroe can do better than me?

Wolverine 2 star 85 (5/5/3)
Irom man 1 star 50 (5/3/5) (was my firts hero and messep up the skills, didn't know the 13 skill cap)
Storm 2 star 40 (5/5/3) for the stun and aoe dmg mainly

I can almost 1 shot the lvls 90 with wolve, with ironman its impossible to do as much dmg, so I don't understand how people are progressing without any high lvl heroe or stun locks.

Its so disheartening to look at the ranks and see people that shouldn't be able to beat past 3rd mission earn tons of points while I can't beat the missions without boosts and I win so litle points.

Is there something I don't know? They plan to continue messing up the events like this? because this changes are not fun at all.

DD-The-Mighty

Vohnkar wrote:

Hi, I need some help to know if theres something wrong with the event or it's something I don't know happening.

My rooster is not too powerful for this event, so I assume i won't be able to progress too much, but I should be able to do fine on the rankings, top 50 maybe. The problem is that 3rd mission is lvl 88-90 for me (not sure if its the same lvl for everyone, thats one of the things that bothers me). I can manage to beat the granadier and soldiers using some +3 blue/+20% hammer dmg. They do tons of dmg to my heroes, but I can handle them,

The problem is that they give me 24 points, then 12, 8... so I'm aroung 325 after repeating the 3 first missions like 6 times each or so, yesterday 4 times the first 2 missions and 2 times 3rd one (4th and 5th I did it once using 150% hammer dmg). I look at the rankings and right now the guy above me has a rooster that should make him imposible to do past 2nd mission, come one! how is it possible that people with irom mam as their only hight lvl heroe can do better than me?

Wolverine 2 star 85 (5/5/3)
Irom man 1 star 50 (5/3/5) (was my firts hero and messep up the skills, didn't know the 13 skill cap)
Storm 2 star 40 (5/5/3) for the stun and aoe dmg mainly

I can almost 1 shot the lvls 90 with wolve, with ironman its impossible to do as much dmg, so I don't understand how people are progressing without any high lvl heroe or stun locks.

Its so disheartening to look at the ranks and see people that shouldn't be able to beat past 3rd mission earn tons of points while I can't beat the missions without boosts and I win so litle points.

Is there something I don't know? They plan to continue messing up the events like this? because this changes are not fun at all.

Scan through the thread pages. Most of this stuff has been answered already in one form or another.

kensterr

Vohnkar wrote:

Hi, I need some help to know if theres something wrong with the event or it's something I don't know happening.

My rooster is not too powerful for this event, so I assume i won't be able to progress too much, but I should be able to do fine on the rankings, top 50 maybe. The problem is that 3rd mission is lvl 88-90 for me (not sure if its the same lvl for everyone, thats one of the things that bothers me). I can manage to beat the granadier and soldiers using some +3 blue/+20% hammer dmg. They do tons of dmg to my heroes, but I can handle them,

The problem is that they give me 24 points, then 12, 8... so I'm aroung 325 after repeating the 3 first missions like 6 times each or so, yesterday 4 times the first 2 missions and 2 times 3rd one (4th and 5th I did it once using 150% hammer dmg). I look at the rankings and right now the guy above me has a rooster that should make him imposible to do past 2nd mission, come one! how is it possible that people with irom mam as their only hight lvl heroe can do better than me?

Wolverine 2 star 85 (5/5/3)
Irom man 1 star 50 (5/3/5) (was my firts hero and messep up the skills, didn't know the 13 skill cap)
Storm 2 star 40 (5/5/3) for the stun and aoe dmg mainly

I can almost 1 shot the lvls 90 with wolve, with ironman its impossible to do as much dmg, so I don't understand how people are progressing without any high lvl heroe or stun locks.

Its so disheartening to look at the ranks and see people that shouldn't be able to beat past 3rd mission earn tons of points while I can't beat the missions without boosts and I win so litle points.

Is there something I don't know? They plan to continue messing up the events like this? because this changes are not fun at all.

As mentioned by other people in this thread, some others are getting favorable opponents as low as around level 40. The game's programming has been screwed up big-time by the developers.

Unknown

Phantron wrote:

It's not unreasonable to go for like 2 Wind Storms with a level 85 Classic Storm given how much blue you go through in a fight while using Spiderman. Sure it's not as safe as having Spiderman but there are only 2 battles that have more than one villian, so Wind Storm's stun is usually good enough because there usually is only one person you need to stun. Also Storm's green obviously is very good at hitting hard to reach countdown tiles and you'll definitely have a ton of green in these fights. Sometimes you can argue it's better to not stun the villian if the CD tiles are really hard to reach (because the villians will help you clear your way toward it), as long as the villian isn't Daken. For example it's really harmless for Yelena or Bullseye to match a tile, so sometimes you don't want to stun them because that gets you less moves to reach a countdown tile.

It's only harmless for Yelana or Daken to match if your chars are fully levelled. Lvl 135 Yelena took out my lvl 45 C Storm with around 5 matches and 1 payback mission. Mission is impossible from tht point on!

Vohnkar

kensterr wrote:

Vohnkar wrote:

Hi, I need some help to know if theres something wrong with the event or it's something I don't know happening.

My rooster is not too powerful for this event, so I assume i won't be able to progress too much, but I should be able to do fine on the rankings, top 50 maybe. The problem is that 3rd mission is lvl 88-90 for me (not sure if its the same lvl for everyone, thats one of the things that bothers me). I can manage to beat the granadier and soldiers using some +3 blue/+20% hammer dmg. They do tons of dmg to my heroes, but I can handle them,

The problem is that they give me 24 points, then 12, 8... so I'm aroung 325 after repeating the 3 first missions like 6 times each or so, yesterday 4 times the first 2 missions and 2 times 3rd one (4th and 5th I did it once using 150% hammer dmg). I look at the rankings and right now the guy above me has a rooster that should make him imposible to do past 2nd mission, come one! how is it possible that people with irom mam as their only hight lvl heroe can do better than me?

Wolverine 2 star 85 (5/5/3)
Irom man 1 star 50 (5/3/5) (was my firts hero and messep up the skills, didn't know the 13 skill cap)
Storm 2 star 40 (5/5/3) for the stun and aoe dmg mainly

I can almost 1 shot the lvls 90 with wolve, with ironman its impossible to do as much dmg, so I don't understand how people are progressing without any high lvl heroe or stun locks.

Its so disheartening to look at the ranks and see people that shouldn't be able to beat past 3rd mission earn tons of points while I can't beat the missions without boosts and I win so litle points.

Is there something I don't know? They plan to continue messing up the events like this? because this changes are not fun at all.

As mentioned by other people in this thread, some others are getting favorable opponents as low as around level 40. The game's programming has been screwed up big-time by the developers.

Ok, thank you.

Edit:

+1 to all the post above asking for a rethink of the system, they are puninshing us hard for having a big rooster or being playing for a long time. Nonsense. I hope they react quickly and stop messing the game, it was fun and fine some weeks ago.

Unknown

For myself i was able to stock up a good amount of points so far.

Only way i was able to was thanks to:
- 5 Blue Spiday
- 5 Green BWG
- lots of healthpack

However what is insane is even like this every mistake cost you a lot since just one missed counter is enough to wipe your whole party.

In the end i managed to clear every mission up to 1 points each. Every f#@!ing mission taking about 20 minutes each. By the time i was done i was like "omg it's done" just to realize it took me 12 hours and the first few missions refreshed already ! It's a non stop event, not even time to sleep if you want to keep it cleared !

Good thing it is the weekend because the next days i'm just gonna sit on my points and hope i don't fall to far in the ranking, i just won't have the time for it.

I don't even want to know how the ones without a spiday are even doing

nihilium

MarvelGnu wrote:

I don't even want to know how the ones without a spiday are even doing

Nothing at all? xD

Unknown

MarvelGnu wrote:

For myself i was able to stock up a good amount of points so far.

Only way i was able to was thanks to:
- 5 Blue Spiday
- 5 Green BWG
- lots of healthpack

However what is insane is even like this every mistake cost you a lot since just one missed counter is enough to wipe your whole party.

In the end i managed to clear every mission up to 1 points each. Every f#@!ing mission taking about 20 minutes each. By the time i was done i was like "omg it's done" just to realize it took me 12 hours and the first few missions refreshed already ! It's a non stop event, not even time to sleep if you want to keep it cleared !

Good thing it is the weekend because the next days i'm just gonna sit on my points and hope i don't fall to far in the ranking, i just won't have the time for it.

I don't even want to know how the ones without a spiday are even doing

We're having a way better time than you. We ain't playing it.

Unknown

Veracity wrote:

We're having a way better time than you. We ain't playing it.

So true !

Unknown

RockMonster wrote:

Phantron wrote:

RockMonster wrote:

Oh! And another thing!

On the stage with Yelena and 2 spies, the spies won't drop their tiles unless Yelena is stunned. They just pump up her purple AP until she uses Lethal Recon. That's hitting for 1,000, and in your infinite ****ing wisdom you didn't give us access to a tank for this event. I can't get anything going to get through her mountainous health pool since she steals all my AP, so I'm trying to whittle her away with tile damage before she carves me up.

Who comes up with this ****?

Also, **** chat filters. If I'm swearing is because I'm angry, and changing it to something cutesy is just going to make me angrier. "Tinykitty" isn't funny, it's stupid. You're stupid.

I don't imagine that fight doable without Spiderman, but it's actually quite trivial with him. Match blue, stun Yelena. The end.

In terms of balance that should be turned to Yelena with 2 Pyros/Snipers/Grenadiers. In general, the villian + minion fights need to be changed so that the minions do not share color with the villians because it leads to some rather ridiculous results.

Yeah, my Spidey is 1/2/1, so I'm not allowed to play in this event.

Goons as AP generators for villains is 100% working as intended though. In TaT the brand new goon types were paired exclusively with villains that used their colours. Red and Black goons meant you were fighting Bullseye, Ares and/or Moonstone, without exception. I don't know why. But isn't a coincidence.

Generally is not all about spidey... in my bracket some1 is still ahead of me despite having spidey with just 1/1/1 and lv20... still he already 6000 pts so you shouldnt let your low lv spidey stop you from keep playing the event.. as least take up the challenge try and denied all the Hammer color or villain color match tile xD

bahamut685

DX_das wrote:

Generally is not all about spidey... in my bracket some1 is still ahead of me despite having spidey with just 1/1/1 and lv20... still he already 6000 pts so you shouldnt let your low lv spidey stop you from keep playing the event.. as least take up the challenge try and denied all the Hammer color or villain color match tile xD

I'm not convinced that you've ever played this game if you think 'denying Hammer color' is an option... they get AP automatically, and the computer seems to 'randomly' place the countdown tiles on impossible to reach tiles. Also, with all enemies at level 230, if you miss a countdown tile [just once], you lose the match. [C.Storm is my only decently leveled character available in the event at 67, so it's so very NOT fun to play.]

Crazze47

DX_das wrote:

RockMonster wrote:

Phantron wrote:

RockMonster wrote:

Oh! And another thing!

On the stage with Yelena and 2 spies, the spies won't drop their tiles unless Yelena is stunned. They just pump up her purple AP until she uses Lethal Recon. That's hitting for 1,000, and in your infinite ****ing wisdom you didn't give us access to a tank for this event. I can't get anything going to get through her mountainous health pool since she steals all my AP, so I'm trying to whittle her away with tile damage before she carves me up.

Who comes up with this ****?

Also, **** chat filters. If I'm swearing is because I'm angry, and changing it to something cutesy is just going to make me angrier. "Tinykitty" isn't funny, it's stupid. You're stupid.

I don't imagine that fight doable without Spiderman, but it's actually quite trivial with him. Match blue, stun Yelena. The end.

In terms of balance that should be turned to Yelena with 2 Pyros/Snipers/Grenadiers. In general, the villian + minion fights need to be changed so that the minions do not share color with the villians because it leads to some rather ridiculous results.

Yeah, my Spidey is 1/2/1, so I'm not allowed to play in this event.

Goons as AP generators for villains is 100% working as intended though. In TaT the brand new goon types were paired exclusively with villains that used their colours. Red and Black goons meant you were fighting Bullseye, Ares and/or Moonstone, without exception. I don't know why. But isn't a coincidence.

Generally is not all about spidey... in my bracket some1 is still ahead of me despite having spidey with just 1/1/1 and lv20... still he already 6000 pts so you shouldnt let your low lv spidey stop you from keep playing the event.. as least take up the challenge try and denied all the Hammer color or villain color match tile xD

The reason they are able to win is because they got lucky and their opponents levels aren't 230. If your opponents are 230 and you don't have spidey and gsbw where they need to be to take care of tiles/stunlock you can't progress at all. This isn't a just suck it up and play the missions and you can push through. Thick as Thieves was on the other hand, was it broken as all hell? Yea it was but it is doable. This event? Depending on your situation, not so much. Myself along with others I've read in this post can't do anything because all the opponents are way overleveled and we don't have the one or 2 characters at all or all the covers needed to win.

Yasuru

Ok, I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but here goes...

I have been playing on my Android phone since Thanksgiving, on an account linked to my FB. I have been playing this event since it opened, as my SM only has 3 blue, it has been an exercise in frustration. I have managed 174 points, and am ranked 126 in my group (the top 10 range from 1.8k to 4.7k).

At one point a couple weeks ago I was bored and created an alt account on my work iPhone. This account is less than halfway through the prologue. With one morning of playing, I've gotten 238 points, and I'm ranked 13.

To say this is broken is beyond an understatement.

Unknown

kensterr wrote:

Vohnkar wrote:

The problem is that they give me 24 points, then 12, 8...

Its so disheartening to look at the ranks and see people that shouldn't be able to beat past 3rd mission earn tons of points while I can't beat the missions without boosts and I win so little points.

As mentioned by other people in this thread, some others are getting favorable opponents as low as around level 40. The game's programming has been screwed up big-time by the developers.

Thank you for that explanation. I was busting my head wondering how in hell I was supposed to be able to score any points at all, struggling to get to 300 total points while people with lesser rosters have somehow gotten into multiple thousands. With DD required for a third of the missions, and the remaining missions not worth anything while having 200+ enemies, I'm just going to give up on this event. Hope I don't give up on the game - I like it a lot, and have paid money into it. But right now it seems broken for anyone in the middle 60% of the player base. The rich get richer, the poor get an advantage, and the vast middle gets hosed. Not fun.

Unknown

Dammit, you guys, stop clearing missions! My first Daken's over 80 and everything else is 230 again! If you all stop playing, I might be able to scrape to 120 points by the end of the event.

This may not have been the most engaging event the game has run from my POV, but it's certainly been the funniest.

kensterr

SaintJimmy wrote:

Thank you for that explanation. I was busting my head wondering how in hell I was supposed to be able to score any points at all, struggling to get to 300 total points while people with lesser rosters have somehow gotten into multiple thousands. With DD required for a third of the missions, and the remaining missions not worth anything while having 200+ enemies, I'm just going to give up on this event. Hope I don't give up on the game - I like it a lot, and have paid money into it. But right now it seems broken for anyone in the middle 60% of the player base. The rich get richer, the poor get an advantage, and the vast middle gets hosed. Not fun.

If you have Thor then I suggest that you try the Thor tournament. Rewards are decent and at least you get 70 or 140 ISO with each win. I play every now and then whenever my heroes regen for the Oscorp mission. Managed to get 400 points and into Top 30, but dunno how long it lasts. I see it as a win-win cos I need the GSBW cover... worst case I can almost complete my Captain America covers. lol!

Unknown

seriously all this talk about i dun get what so ever thingy lol
let me get this straight... all the opponent i facing is lv200+ above and i always calm in calculating when to denied their countdown and always win... currently almost reach 7.5k pts as we speak... with this progress i think i probably can reach 10k pts to grab as least a DD cover...
And yes sometimes i got lucky with my board... i able to continuous cascade the whole board for 3 turn sometimes and able collect more than 10 blue tile to continuosly spam to stun lock them the whole game and eventually win