Oscorp Heroic Mode

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kensterr wrote:

SaintJimmy wrote:

Thank you for that explanation. I was busting my head wondering how in hell I was supposed to be able to score any points at all, struggling to get to 300 total points while people with lesser rosters have somehow gotten into multiple thousands. With DD required for a third of the missions, and the remaining missions not worth anything while having 200+ enemies, I'm just going to give up on this event. Hope I don't give up on the game - I like it a lot, and have paid money into it. But right now it seems broken for anyone in the middle 60% of the player base. The rich get richer, the poor get an advantage, and the vast middle gets hosed. Not fun.

If you have Thor then I suggest that you try the Thor tournament. Rewards are decent and at least you get 70 or 140 ISO with each win. I play every now and then whenever my heroes regen for the Oscorp mission. Managed to get 400 points and into Top 30, but dunno how long it lasts. I see it as a win-win cos I need the GSBW cover... worst case I can almost complete my Captain America covers. lol!

I am going for the green cover GSBW...that the only cover i dun have and i gonna go all out tmmr in the last 4 hours then shield up once i confident with my score

kensterr

DX_das wrote:

I am going for the green cover GSBW...that the only cover i dun have and i gonna go all out tmmr in the last 4 hours then shield up once i confident with my score

I'm gonna try to get up higher in the ranks first as well, as long as I think I can get any GSBW covers, then shield. Shielding is still cheaper than buying a cover to upgrade, or trying luck with the IAP recruit tokens.

Wonko33

I can't win because my wolverine has... too MUCH health.

If I time it just right I get his by a nuke and all my guys go below 50% and Classic Storm just nukes the hell out of them. But I don't have another allowed character that has more than their hit but not more than twice. I guess I have to get Wolverine injured somewhere else and attack then.

Devs sure make this a lot of fun-

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I'm thinking that this is Heroic Mode and should be difficult. That being said Thick as Thieves had the same difficulty. That was nonsense.

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i thought I knew what monotonous was. This Heroic mode is beyond that. I don't even care for my enemy levels being 230 anymore. Freakin' burned out of doing this. Tired of spinnin' my wheels.

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Bugpop wrote:

I'm thinking that this is Heroic Mode and should be difficult. That being said Thick as Thieves had the same difficulty. That was nonsense.

Thick as Thieves was way easier because you could use your high lvl/high dmg guys.
The extremely limited roster of this event plus the high lvl enemies makes it way more difficult and tremendously dull...

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I'm going to be the weirdo and say that I'm enjoying this event AND clearing 230/230/230s regularly without using HP-costing boosts, using more than a handful of Health Packs, or burning excessive ISO. Most of the time I run +3 Blue/Purple and that's it.

But I am also VERY aware that I fall into a very, very narrow category:
* I have Spider-Man and Grey Widow skilled up fully and leveled up over 100
* I enjoy an absurd level of challenge.

Which this is. Three 230s with a dead-weight third slot? Why not? The only buffed unit is screen-door-on-submarine useless against HAMMER troops? Sure! The one prize I'd like to reach for -- Daredevil Blue -- is at a ludicrously high and unreachable progression value unless mission points grow substantially in the second half of the event? Oh yes. Daddy beats us because Daddy loves us. It's like fiddling with advanced levels of some logic puzzle game -- there's a precise sequence of moves and tactics that will get me through unscathed and I just have to work out what it is on each board.

That said... if I _didn't_ have that particular mindset and _didn't_ have that perfect set of leveled-up skilled-up characters that are just right for clearing these monstrosities -- and won't be for long, once the nerf bat finishes making its rounds -- I would be pants-crappingly angry like pretty much everyone else here.

So I may be enjoying this... but I understand. I empathize. And I expect that next time around I may well be on the outside looking in with everyone else unless significant adjustments are made.

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So what did I actually learn about the characters featured in this event so far?

I learned that I miss the old **Wolverine more than ever. It's not even the weak strike tiles, but his worthless heal.
I learned that IM35 is weak and his best powers take way too much AP.
I learned that Modern Black Widow is the weakest BW (well she is one star for a reason) and her powers take way too much AP. Also who to stun?
I learned that Classic Spiderman poweres are overpowered and basically one of the few chars that would actually enable you to progress in fights with odds stacked against you.
I learned that Modern Hawkeye is a pain to use, but when his powers go off he's actually worthwhile. Also dodge is a huge PITA sometimes.
I learned that Grey Suit Black Widow is good for clearing countdown tiles (if you actually have her covers).
I learned that Classic Storm has way too few HP to survive any area of effect damage, but her powers can be quite useful.
I learned that Daredevil is the most worthless character against goon-teams and that his powers are overwritten by almost anything.
I don't have IW, so no clue about her.

I also hope that the developers learned, that starting events on a friday, with no willingness to do weekend shifts is a stupid idea.

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whorst wrote:

Also who to stun?

If you mean when you don't know which soldier (or whatever) owns the CD that's at 1, they're often one level apart because of the scaling. You can check the damage on the tile and see which soldier it matches, although it can still be a bit confusing figuring out which tab corresponds to which soldier if you didn't lock that into your head at the outset.

Bag Lady's a pretty powerful defensive character now, but slow and only really if you have her blue (which you shouldn't be using here because Spidey) and have leveled her.

DefectiveChicken wrote:

I'm going to be the weirdo and say that I'm enjoying this event AND clearing 230/230/230s regularly without using HP-costing boosts, using more than a handful of Health Packs, or burning excessive ISO.

I was like that for TaT. I mean, I know it was broken, but I was actually enjoying the one-error-or-fluke-and-you-die absurdity of it. Only meaningfully buffed character's strongest offense kills my own team? Eeeexcellent. Got a bit skimmy when the main opened up, because that was too much every 8 hours on top of a sub. Also did try tanking at the end to be sure I could get up at an ungodly hour for my time zone and rocket through the final high-pointers in a daze.

You should look at this, if you never have. Believe it's on mobile, Steam and desktop standalone now. I think I've sat and stared at problems in it without actually doing anything for up to 30 minutes.

Dayv

Veracity wrote:

whorst wrote:

Also who to stun?

If you mean when you don't know which soldier (or whatever) owns the CD that's at 1, they're often one level apart because of the scaling.

Until they max out at level 230 and you're guessing again.

If you don't have enough points for full team stun lock, but have some blue, you can keep one guy stunned for a while so you know the other one is creating the tiles.

I'd hate to try these levels without Spidey. If they nerf Spidey before this event ends, there'll be riots.

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What's the longest thread on these boards ever? This is reaching epic proportions. I can only shake my head because this event is great for me so far. Normal enemies, good progression rewards, I'm so far easily number one in my bracket for now because nobody seems to be playing much. My roster sucks for this, but I am making do with spidey storm and my 28 level gsbw lol. I wonder if the composition of this event has to do with the bracket you're in? Like maybe a bunch of forum members having rosters with more than a couple 141s and maxed 85s all in the same bracket will cause the levels of the enemies levels to go super high. To keep things "fair" for everyone competing in your bracket fights the same foes. Possible?

reckless442

RockMonster wrote:

reckless442 wrote:

I have Spidey with 5 blue and GBW with Level 5 Sniper Rifle and each match is still taking 20-30 minutes. I've been grinding much of the day and am now in 1st in my bracket with about 4,300 pts, but there's no way I can continue playing at this rate once the workweek begins. The problem I'm finding is that my characters do barely any damage in their base attacks, so those are essentially useless. It's even better when you're attacking Lvl 230 Daken and his healing power cures more health than you can take with your attacks or, my personal favorite, getting -1 for multiple attacks because Bullseye's passive Adamantium Bones power has created a protect tile that: (1) you can't reach and (2) completely negates any damage you can do.

That's the thing that is so ridiculous about the scaling. When low-level Hammer soldiers have 6,000 health, my characters' max damage of 150 is pretty useless. And that hot dog stand bonus of 50 health does me a lot of good when the Pyro causes over 2,000 damages to my entire team and other Level 230 attacks cause five-digit damage.

Frankly, I hate the idea of nerfing Spidey. Yes, he's powerful, but he's a 3* character so he should be. And as it is, he has no offensive powers to speak of. There are plenty of times when the board dries up of blues tiles. A skilled player can use him to great effect, but it requires a lot of planning to ensure that you collect enough blues during the game to make him effective. If the Devs nerf him to make the stunlock more expensive, the events are going to be impossible.

If I were part of the "nerf Spidey" crowd I might point out that this event is already impossible if you don't have him.

Grats on your 4,300 points. I've got 280. If one single character is the sole reason for your success, and if one single character is the reason I can't progress at all, then under normal circumstances I'd say that character is overpowered. Considering how messed up this game is right now though, I won't pin it all on Spider-Man.

Where did I say that Spidey is the "sole reason" for my success? Spidey alone would not allow me to win unless I got insanely lucky. I'm managing to win with a combination of 98th level Spidey, 57th level GBW, 47th level classic Storm, plus boosts. Spidey stunlocks, but I start each game with 3 to 6 blue so I know I will be able to stunlock early on if necessary. GBW's purple power generates greens for either her green power (which causes damage) or Storm's green power (which generates AP). I usually use Storm's green power several times to generate AP and only use GBW's green power when I have stockpiled enough blue AP to continue stunning. However, for the early part of the game, I go all out to get as many blue tiles as possible and am very judicious about using stunlock, because the blue tiles can disappear from the board. And yes it annoys me that I have to pay more for boosts, especially with the +3 to all colors using HP, but they are critical to my overall strategy.

So I don't think this event proves Spidey is overpowered. He just seems necessary to this event because the characters that most people have probably developed to high levels are unavailable and, the other common high-level character, 2-star Wolverine has been nerfed so terribly.

I also have to say that my bracket doesn't seem as messed up as most. Most of the top-5 have high-level characters (85th level or higher). It does, however, annoy me that the player who is in second, with over 4,000 points, has only four characters on his roster that are above level 20, and the highest is a level 28 Wolverine.

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Crazyeyeskiller wrote:

What's the longest thread on these boards ever? This is reaching epic proportions. I can only shake my head because this event is great for me so far. Normal enemies, good progression rewards, I'm so far easily number one in my bracket for now because nobody seems to be playing much. My roster sucks for this, but I am making do with spidey storm and my 28 level gsbw lol. I wonder if the composition of this event has to do with the bracket you're in? Like maybe a bunch of forum members having rosters with more than a couple 141s and maxed 85s all in the same bracket will cause the levels of the enemies levels to go super high. To keep things "fair" for everyone competing in your bracket fights the same foes. Possible?

This isn't even close to TaT.

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it isn't even close to being fair. its not even fun.

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jozier wrote:

Crazyeyeskiller wrote:

What's the longest thread on these boards ever? This is reaching epic proportions. I can only shake my head because this event is great for me so far. Normal enemies, good progression rewards, I'm so far easily number one in my bracket for now because nobody seems to be playing much. My roster sucks for this, but I am making do with spidey storm and my 28 level gsbw lol. I wonder if the composition of this event has to do with the bracket you're in? Like maybe a bunch of forum members having rosters with more than a couple 141s and maxed 85s all in the same bracket will cause the levels of the enemies levels to go super high. To keep things "fair" for everyone competing in your bracket fights the same foes. Possible?

This isn't even close to TaT.

Mostly because many are taking a break until the current event and tournament end.

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whorst wrote:

So what did I actually learn about the characters featured in this event so far?

I learned that I miss the old **Wolverine more than ever. It's not even the weak strike tiles, but his worthless heal.
I learned that IM35 is weak and his best powers take way too much AP.
I learned that Modern Black Widow is the weakest BW (well she is one star for a reason) and her powers take way too much AP. Also who to stun?
I learned that Classic Spiderman poweres are overpowered and basically one of the few chars that would actually enable you to progress in fights with odds stacked against you.
I learned that Modern Hawkeye is a pain to use, but when his powers go off he's actually worthwhile. Also dodge is a huge PITA sometimes.
I learned that Grey Suit Black Widow is good for clearing countdown tiles (if you actually have her covers).
I learned that Classic Storm has way too few HP to survive any area of effect damage, but her powers can be quite useful.
I learned that Daredevil is the most worthless character against goon-teams and that his powers are overwritten by almost anything.
I don't have IW, so no clue about her.

I also hope that the developers learned, that starting events on a friday, with no willingness to do weekend shifts is a stupid idea.

I didn't sell my wolverine because he's still pretty strong.
IM35 is weak, i sold that bastard even if I maxed him out.
Modern black widow is used when you want to make it easier on your opponent.
When classic spiderman OP is what you need to progress, he doesn't become OP. He becomes necessary. Or the maggia are OP. Both answers are correct. Imagine if they nerfed his blue. You'd have even less of a chance.
Modern hawkeye does not do enough damage to warrant his use. Dodge can be very useful as long as you have someone like a tanking hulk. Which is not available in this game.
Grey suit black widow can help you win if you are extreeemely lucky since you need a lot of red. The more red you match, the less red you can match and then you die anyway.
Classic storm i sold because she gets 1 shotted always.
Daredevil powers are completely useless in pve and most pvp situations. Yet you cannot play certain games without him. And if you manage to win such a hard fight...20 iso. Thanks!
Invisible woman would probably help a lot if you could amass 23 yellow before you died. As long as she's untargettable she can be the only one left alive matching stuff like crazy to whittle enemies down. Be prepared to spend 30 minutes to earn 20 iso though.

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The only person who really matters for this heroic is Spiderman. Everything else just makes the fight take in a more sane time, though GSBW is a good balance of offense and defense, but only if you have Sniper Rifle at level 5.

One thing people need to be aware is that the lack of boosted character is what really sets this apart. Normally your characters are boosted to something like level 160 and 160 versus 230 is quite doable. 85 versus 230 is considerably harder. The only boosted character is Daredevil, and as many pointed out this tournament seems to be highlight his weakness instead of strength (Daken is pretty much his red trap's bane). If Wolverine/Patch isn't boosted in TaT, the missions are likely to be just as impossible/grindy as Heroic Oscorp.

At the very least they should've boosted Classic Storm and Modern Hawkeye if they don't want a 'rich gets richer' problem.

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Anyone actually getting any decent progression awards?

Nemek

Bugpop wrote:

Anyone actually getting any decent progression awards?

Currently at 7K, I'll likely be stopping at 10K and then just making sure to get the 500ISO prize from all of the missions. Depending on how close it is, I may do a few more missions to secure 1st place, but not going to stress about it.

turul

Tomorrow they will remove the PVE just as we could reach 10k.
Im at 7k btw