Arondite wrote: Grum9ski wrote: You're assuming that D3 designs their events to allow players to win all the prizes on offer. Their goal isn't to allow everyone to win the new stuff they release; rather it is to get players to pay for new content. Allow everyone? If round 8 is over 15 Million (and that's almost guaranteed to be the case) it will be mathematically impossible for ANYONE to get it. Lmfao. Great planning D3 - put up a prize that can't be won.
Grum9ski wrote: You're assuming that D3 designs their events to allow players to win all the prizes on offer. Their goal isn't to allow everyone to win the new stuff they release; rather it is to get players to pay for new content.
slidecage wrote: Arondite wrote: id be surprised, honestly, after learning that round 7 is 11 Million HP (25 Hours to clear). I don't even know what Round 8 is, but I know the growth rate has been absolutely insane, and that with perfect play and a ton of cooperation it's gonna take more than a day to clear round 7. How did D3 think this was a good idea? Lol. I'm all for an event like this. It was a great idea. I do think the progs should be really hard to hit and should require all members of the alliance to kind of beast it out. But it's looking to me like they've made it almost impossible to actually do. We cleared Ultron 1 with 2 days to spare. 2 whole days. We won't clear Ultron 2. Cmon D3, when top end alliances literally -can't- clear your co-op event, you've set the numbers poorly. its a 4 star ... in a normal PVE only top 10 get 2 covers Top 5 get 3 covers. Did you expect them to give 3 covers to tons of people.
Arondite wrote: id be surprised, honestly, after learning that round 7 is 11 Million HP (25 Hours to clear). I don't even know what Round 8 is, but I know the growth rate has been absolutely insane, and that with perfect play and a ton of cooperation it's gonna take more than a day to clear round 7. How did D3 think this was a good idea? Lol. I'm all for an event like this. It was a great idea. I do think the progs should be really hard to hit and should require all members of the alliance to kind of beast it out. But it's looking to me like they've made it almost impossible to actually do. We cleared Ultron 1 with 2 days to spare. 2 whole days. We won't clear Ultron 2. Cmon D3, when top end alliances literally -can't- clear your co-op event, you've set the numbers poorly.
papa07 wrote: Arondite wrote: Grum9ski wrote: You're assuming that D3 designs their events to allow players to win all the prizes on offer. Their goal isn't to allow everyone to win the new stuff they release; rather it is to get players to pay for new content. Allow everyone? If round 8 is over 15 Million (and that's almost guaranteed to be the case) it will be mathematically impossible for ANYONE to get it. Lmfao. Great planning D3 - put up a prize that can't be won. Anything under 24.1 is mathematically possible, highly unlikely, but mathematically possible
loroku wrote: This may just be a matter of perspective. In a typical PvE reward event, only the top 5 people per shard get all 3 covers. That's 5 x 5 time slices, x the number of shards per time slice. Let's pretend there are 5 shards per time slice (given the info on these forums, I doubt many get above 5, and some probably only have 2 or 3). That's 5x5x5 = 125 people who actually get all 3 covers per event - and probably fewer. This is a tiny, tiny, tiny, insignificant fraction of the playerbase. Maybe one ten-thousandth of one percent. So, in order to keep to their draconian policies, they designed an event that maybe 5 or 6 alliances will be able to complete at all - once again, 100 to 120 people, total. That fits in nicely with their policies. I'm not justifying it - I still say their reward structure is the only thing making this game horrible, and if they changed it all around it could be amazing. But it's probably not far off of "normal." It's just more obvious this way.
Lerysh wrote: I am OK with "hard". Really, I am. But "Impossible" can not be allowed. And the buffer on "impossible" needs to be pretty wide, as much as 20% given that MOST players I think opt for the 5 fights route, rather than letting Ultron unlock and going for 6. Even if you do go for 6 you can't every time, eventually you hit the refresh wall and lose 1 (or more) fights to the refresh. Not to mention unlocking round 8 probably should not take perfect Ultron fighting from 20 people, sometimes the tin can wins and that should be OK.
fmftint wrote: prefect conditions
djsquillz wrote: Grum9ski wrote: You're assuming that D3 designs their events to allow players to win all the prizes on offer. Their goal isn't to allow everyone to win the new stuff they release; rather it is to get players to pay for new content. Problem with that statement is that you can't pay for the new content until you win it as a prize (ie - the first color of each cover). easy...marc
Grum9ski wrote: djsquillz wrote: Grum9ski wrote: You're assuming that D3 designs their events to allow players to win all the prizes on offer. Their goal isn't to allow everyone to win the new stuff they release; rather it is to get players to pay for new content. Problem with that statement is that you can't pay for the new content until you win it as a prize (ie - the first color of each cover). easy...marc In rebuttal, I'd point out that you can always pay for tons of tokens for the chance to get lucky and draw new content that you don't have yet, which happens to be a key monetization strategy for freemium games in general (and MPQ specAfically).
Meto5000 wrote: A Hulkbuster 42 pack costs $100. The expected number of IMHB draws from this pack is 2.3. The chance that the tokens you might get are different colors is even lower. Are you telling me that you're cool with the only way to acquire new covers is by spending 100s of dollars? Your rebuttal is either full of **** or you're one of D3's shareholders.
Ben Grimm wrote: How close has someone gotten to round 8? CareBearStare is just past halfway through Round 7 right now, and I suspect we're one of the farther along alliances right now. Has anyone hit round 8 yet? It seems like you'd just about have to have to have even a shot at finishing.