DragonLight wrote: I do not see him all the time, is actually beatable on defense and tends to attract attacks.
simonsez wrote: DragonLight wrote: I do not see him all the time, is actually beatable on defense and tends to attract attacks. When you come out of the tunnel, you find out you've lost 184 points.
Phantron wrote: I don't think a character should be balanced around how people think especially since a lot of it is ignorance but it is indeed true that PX is hard to use in the PvP meta. He is very strong against the strongest player, like say if your opponent has a level boosted Hulkbuster + Iron Fist, he's going to say, "my team can beat anyone easily why should I take a chance PX do something crazy?" and skip and beat up any random other team. But a guy running an unboosted Thor + The Hood is going to say, "My team isn't all that good against those 2X240s but I think I can take on PX because he's only got 10K HP". And it doesn't matter if 1 out of 3 of those guys lose to you because there are 10 times the guys who are of the latter type than the former type so you still come out way behind. This is also why even fairly weak characters at 290 does help you because it scares the weak players away and yet even a weak player can beat you more than 50% of the time comfortably. Until they change PvP fundamentally the psychology does matter and that does keep PX held in check for now.
DragonLight wrote: I feel your pain... and... Ouch.
DragonLight wrote: Just a suggestion, but can we please stop calling for PX's nerf?
raisinbman wrote: DragonLight wrote: Just a suggestion, but can we please stop calling for PX's nerf? nope And if you think the devs know what to do with their stats.... Anyone with AP tricks is viable to be nerfed in D3's eyes.
Phantron wrote: They're either going to nerf him or Iron Fist (or both). They can't both stay as is for there to be any meaningful roster diversity in most events and it's really hard to guess which route D3 will take. I'm inclined to think if you have to pick one you'd have to go with the nerf on Iron Fist because Iron Fist is broken on his own without Prof X while Prof X quickly becomes a pretty balanced guy with Iron Fist removed. Magneto (MN) and GSBW are problematic too, but those two characters are flawed in significant way that you'll at least lose your games on PvP just as fast as you're winning them, and for PvE GSBW is a bit too slow against overscaled guys while Magneto lacks HPs against those guys if he's not boosted.
ArkPrime wrote: Phantron wrote: They're either going to nerf him or Iron Fist (or both). They can't both stay as is for there to be any meaningful roster diversity in most events and it's really hard to guess which route D3 will take. I'm inclined to think if you have to pick one you'd have to go with the nerf on Iron Fist because Iron Fist is broken on his own without Prof X while Prof X quickly becomes a pretty balanced guy with Iron Fist removed. Magneto (MN) and GSBW are problematic too, but those two characters are flawed in significant way that you'll at least lose your games on PvP just as fast as you're winning them, and for PvE GSBW is a bit too slow against overscaled guys while Magneto lacks HPs against those guys if he's not boosted. What are you talking about. There are no IF/PX teams in pvp.
Phantron wrote: ArkPrime wrote: Phantron wrote: They're either going to nerf him or Iron Fist (or both). They can't both stay as is for there to be any meaningful roster diversity in most events and it's really hard to guess which route D3 will take. I'm inclined to think if you have to pick one you'd have to go with the nerf on Iron Fist because Iron Fist is broken on his own without Prof X while Prof X quickly becomes a pretty balanced guy with Iron Fist removed. Magneto (MN) and GSBW are problematic too, but those two characters are flawed in significant way that you'll at least lose your games on PvP just as fast as you're winning them, and for PvE GSBW is a bit too slow against overscaled guys while Magneto lacks HPs against those guys if he's not boosted. What are you talking about. There are no IF/PX teams in pvp. Sure, because it only makes sense to run that team when the featured is Black Panther, IMHB, Luke Cage with 5 black, or Iron Fist and one of the weekly boosted character is one of those 3 previous guys. Statistically the chance of all this happening is not very good at all.