Why change 3* prize to 2* prize on gauntlet?

jackstar0

Anyone made angry by the extras added to the gauntlet should examine what it is that has made them upset.

For those 99.9% of users... nothing changed in the least. Take it slow and easy and get slaughtered by those crazy nodes and then let packs regen and go at it again.

The level of upset about this event is so disproportionate to it being one PVE in a long list of them... most needing way more work than taking away bonuses...

Zen808

fmftint wrote:

So...pisss off 99.9% of the players by putting placement rewards on a traditionally non competitive event, then piss off the remaining .1% by changing the reward.

It's cute that you think that many of us actually gave a flying kitty about the placement rewards.

Unknown

fmftint wrote:

So...pisss off 99.9% of the players by putting placement rewards on a traditionally non competitive event, then piss off the remaining .1% by changing the reward.

I'm in that .1% and I never thought they were actually 3* tokens.

lukewin

Ben Grimm wrote:

fmftint wrote:

So...pisss off 99.9% of the players by putting placement rewards on a traditionally non competitive event, then piss off the remaining .1% by changing the reward.

I'm in that .1% and I never thought they were actually 3* tokens.

Me too, but I was hopefully optimistic. If IceIX's response is D3's response, then it is a horrible method of delivering their acknowledgement/response to their mistake. Unfortunately, it falls in line, with most of the D3 communications, meaning it is lacking, late or both. I would be OK with, hey guys, we messed up and have rectified our mistake. Sorry.

I dont need or expect any compensation, but I would appreciate communication and acknowledgement/ownership of their mistake. I know others might demand more or whine about more, but that's my opinion.

Unknown

IceIX wrote:

CrookedKnight wrote:

It would have been really good to have up-front communication on this. The number of stars on a token has always corresponded to the minimum rarity of the cover it will dispense; even the anniversary tokens were . Changing that up without notice (assuming this was deliberate and not a typo) is non-good.

Not deliberate, hence why it was flipped to a 2* reward just like the Heroic 10 Packs.

Since you don't seem to understand why people are upset let me paint a picture.

Your Boss puts up a big announcement. Whoever does the best this week gets 1000 extra.

1000? Wow! So you put in your best effort, come in early, leave late, you'll get to pay off your car. But you had to reschedule your trip to Vegas with your friends.
The final ratings are up and you are in first!
There's talk in the office
"You hear that Ice guy took home the prize this week."
"Wow, I never figured him for such a hard worker. Just think how much catfood I could buy with 1000 bucks. I'll have to try harder next time."

The boss overhears the conversation and is alarmed. "1000 bucks, what are they talking about? Could it be? Maybe? The drones must have assumed it was for 1000 Dollars, I'll need to fix this before MY boss hears of this."

Then late at night after everyone has left he sneaks in and scribbles a "¢" after the "1000".



You can't just change it and mention casually that you made a mistake and have since fixed it. People are right to complain about THAT. It doesn't have to do with a 2 star 10-pack being a terrible price or anything but you set their expectations by putting a 3 star cover image up (accidentally or not) and then changed it all of a sudden. If I had spent HP to get into the top10 I would be irate. If you had noticed it before the Event you had to make an announcement that it was just a regular 10 pack. I mentioned in the thread how a heroic 10 pack has 2 stars but this one had 3 stars, so it must be different. After the event had started it was already too late. Even though the pack in itself is bad (2 stars increased chances, LOL) I am not criticizing the prizes but your "Oops, my bad" approach to the situation.

Unknown

Not surprising, and I depleted my all boost too. Oh well.

lukewin

PPPlaya wrote:

"You hear that Ice guy took home the prize this week."
"Wow, I never figured him for such a hard worker. Just think how much catfood I could buy with 1000 bucks. I'll have to try harder next time."

Thanks for this.

GuntherBlobel

lukewin wrote:

I dont need or expect any compensation, but I would appreciate communication and acknowledgement/ownership of their mistake. I know others might demand more or whine about more, but that's my opinion.

Here's the thing: they didn't actually make a mistake. You did. I think you got all the owning up that you are going to get.

Wobby

lukewin wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

fmftint wrote:

So...pisss off 99.9% of the players by putting placement rewards on a traditionally non competitive event, then piss off the remaining .1% by changing the reward.

I'm in that .1% and I never thought they were actually 3* tokens.

Me too, but I was hopefully optimistic. If IceIX's response is D3's response, then it is a horrible method of delivering their acknowledgement/response to their mistake. Unfortunately, it falls in line, with most of the D3 communications, meaning it is lacking, late or both. I would be OK with, hey guys, we messed up and have rectified our mistake. Sorry.

I dont need or expect any compensation, but I would appreciate communication and acknowledgement/ownership of their mistake. I know others might demand more or whine about more, but that's my opinion.

I think as soon as the event was up and it was visible what was in a pack everyone knew these weren't 3* tokens-- I certainly knew which is why I didn't mind taking only 18th in first sub, and why I didn't overreach to get 8th in the second sub. If I'd had to buy health packs or use more than a single Whales TU, I would have cashed in and moved on.

But that said: I echo the complaint here.
Fixing the reward logo to now have two stars instead of three is kind of silly, and it is semi-justified for folks to complain about that.


I will take a red cover as compensation. Or a blue 4hor.

lukewin

GuntherBlobel wrote:

lukewin wrote:

I dont need or expect any compensation, but I would appreciate communication and acknowledgement/ownership of their mistake. I know others might demand more or whine about more, but that's my opinion.

Here's the thing: they didn't actually make a mistake. You did. I think you got all the owning up that you are going to get.

So them removing a star from the image didn't rectify a mistake they made? Or putting up 3* was their original intent, with plans to replace it later by removing a star. Working as intended.

And if that is all the owning up I am going to get, it goes back to my original point that they need work on owning up/acknowledging the mistakes.

IceIX wrote:

Pretty much exactly what's been stated here. The 3* notation made it seem like the Token was giving out a higher tier of things than it actually is. Sure, there's a chance of 3*s (and 4*s) in there, but 2*s are more likely so it should be a 2* token. Just a mistake in rarity for the token itself.

GuntherBlobel

lukewin wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

fmftint wrote:

So...pisss off 99.9% of the players by putting placement rewards on a traditionally non competitive event, then piss off the remaining .1% by changing the reward.

I'm in that .1% and I never thought they were actually 3* tokens.

Me too, but I was hopefully optimistic.

^ Here ^

You said it yourself. You knew it wasn't really a 10-pack of 3* tokens, you just hoped it was. Quit manufacturing a controversy. You're not getting anything out of it, not even an apology. Nice try.

Unknown

GuntherBlobel wrote:

lukewin wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

fmftint wrote:

So...pisss off 99.9% of the players by putting placement rewards on a traditionally non competitive event, then piss off the remaining .1% by changing the reward.

I'm in that .1% and I never thought they were actually 3* tokens.

Me too, but I was hopefully optimistic.

^ Here ^

You said it yourself. You knew it wasn't really a 10-pack of 3* tokens, you just hoped it was. Quit manufacturing a controversy. You're not getting anything out of it, not even an apology. Nice try.

Are you a D3 shill? How is the pay?

You can't possibly be this bitter without pushing some kind of agenda.

@GothicKratos: haha

GothicKratos

It was a typo - If you looked at the token odds, I'm 100% positive it didn't say guaranteed 3* (i.e. no 1* or 2* in the odds) - yeah it sucks that some people had false pretenses, but they did own up to their mistake. Do you want compensation for your boosts? I'm at a lose here, did you want some crow eating apology letter for a typo?

Unknown

I'm surprised at the animosity in this thread. The icon had 3* on it. No where did it state the 10 pack had any guaranteed 3*s in it. People made an assumption instead of simply asking if what the 3* meant. If people would have taken a minute to ask, we could have gotten an answer and this thread would not be necessary.

When someone finally asked, they told us it was a typo which is what almost all the player base was pretty sure of to begin with.

I can understand people being upset there was a typo. That was their mistake. Assuming what that 3rd* meant was not their fault, and for that part, people should not be upset at mpq.

lukewin

GuntherBlobel wrote:

lukewin wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

I'm in that .1% and I never thought they were actually 3* tokens.

Me too, but I was hopefully optimistic.

^ Here ^

You said it yourself. You knew it wasn't really a 10-pack of 3* tokens, you just hoped it was. Quit manufacturing a controversy. You're not getting anything out of it, not even an apology. Nice try.

I am not trying to manufacture a controversy. You are trying to make it a controversy, by selectively reading things in my post and misunderstanding them.
I am pointing out their communication sucks. I would love a 3* 10 pack, but I am happy with a 10 pack. Lemme just answer by quoting statements I've already made.

lukewin wrote:

Me too, but I was hopefully optimistic. If IceIX's response is D3's response, then it is a horrible method of delivering their acknowledgement/response to their mistake. Unfortunately, it falls in line, with most of the D3 communications, meaning it is lacking, late or both. I would be OK with, hey guys, we messed up and have rectified our mistake. Sorry.

I dont need or expect any compensation, but I would appreciate communication and acknowledgement/ownership of their mistake. I know others might demand more or whine about more, but that's my opinion.

GothicKratos wrote:

It was a typo - If you looked at the token odds, I'm 100% positive it didn't say guaranteed 3* (i.e. no 1* or 2* in the odds) - yeah it sucks that some people had false pretenses, but they did own up to their mistake. Do you want compensation for your boosts? I'm at a lose here, did you want some crow eating apology letter for a typo?

The fact that they changed the image, and the only acknowledgement is an answer in a thread specifically asking why the change was made is pretty poor. The way that they owned up to it in such a nonchalant manner, where it's just brushed off, is also off-putting. Do I want compensation for my boosts? Check above, where I said "I dont need or expect any compensation". I've bolded it and and colored it so you don't miss it. Do I want a crow eating apology for a mistake made in an image? Check above, where I said "I dont need or expect any compensation". I've bolded it and and colored it so you don't miss it.

PS. Check above, where I said "I dont need or expect any compensation". I've bolded it and and colored it so you don't miss it.

Unknown

CrookedKnight wrote:

IceIX wrote:

Pretty much exactly what's been stated here. The 3* notation made it seem like the Token was giving out a higher tier of things than it actually is. Sure, there's a chance of 3*s (and 4*s) in there, but 2*s are more likely so it should be a 2* token. Just a mistake in rarity for the token itself.

It would have been really good to have up-front communication on this. The number of stars on a token has always corresponded to the minimum rarity of the cover it will dispense; even the anniversary tokens were . Changing that up without notice (assuming this was deliberate and not a typo) is non-good.

Actually, there's been a few times that we've had 3-star tokens that didn't guarantee 3-star covers. The Lightning Round tokens after their nerf is one, and I believe in one of the No Holds Barred there was a 3-star token reward that was just a buffed heroic (there were the No Holds Barred Lightning Rounds that gave out a true guaranteed 3* token, I'm not talking about those)

Chirus

Guys some heated words have been said, but please, lay off the people who are simply posting to express some disappointment. I think it's completely natural to feel this way after seeing something that is arguably very rare, work hard for it and then have it taken away without warning. Whether it was a reasonable expectation or not, the fact that the mistake was there does not change. Some felt disappointment, others didn't. Still others just wanted some additional closure. I don't feel it right that some of you indiscriminately attack all of those people for absolutely no gain. Let's not let this grow into something it's not.

Zen808

BTW, Ice, while you're at it, maybe tell them they might want to change the Stars on the 2000 ISO node rewards. I'm surprised nobody complained yet about being psyched out when that Gold Shield appears on the screen, only to get a measly 2000 ISO instead of a 3* cover.

Chirus

808SpicyToro wrote:

BTW, Ice, while you're at it, maybe tell them they might want to change the Stars on the 2000 ISO node rewards. I'm surprised nobody complained yet about being psyched out when that Gold Shield appears on the screen, only to get a measly 2000 ISO instead of a 3* cover.

You guys are horrible. Give the players some room to mourn.

Aidonis

This game continually shocks me...the way the developers treat the folks paying their bills and the way they get backed up by the player base. I wish something even remotely comparable would come out so I could stop giving my money to these pretentious **** clowns.

I saw the 3 star 10 pack reward, saw that it was insanely hard to get, and I'm soooo glad I didn't go for it, because for me, if I dropped $50 and got it, I would be **** livid if it wasn't what was advertised. It is NOT my job to double check the odds, to check YOUR work. Gah, seriously...you people are unreal.