Upcoming PVE Mission Points Change

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  • Having to miss sleep in order to reap any rewards is never a good idea. Thank you for attempting to fix this issue for us!
  • Yup, agreed. Love the changes and especially for The Hunt since there will be a time where 3 sub-events running concurrently, I remembered last time I played The Hunt until quite exhausted and gave up the event as it was too ridiculous to play endlessly. Perhaps need to adjust the refresh time accordingly with each of PvE. For example like Oscorp Heroic could be around 6 hours instead of 8 hours since there is no concurrent sub-events and fewer nodes. As for those who can't wait until full points, can provide the Lightning rounds during the PvE period so they still able to play without getting bored waiting. Just a thought.
  • brysonian
    brysonian Posts: 21 Just Dropped In
    Someone else mentioned scaling also could be a problem. It could get crazy if by the time 8 hours goes by the levels of your opponents jumps to impossible to beat. I had that problem with the top right node in the last event aries daken and yelena were level 200+. I skipped the node for the longest since aries can be a beast to beat.
  • Ive never had trouble keeping up in pve at 2.5 hours...even sleeping through the night. Yes you would fall back then move up and sprint at the end, like a marathon. I know im gonna be very bored waiting for full points and think that a 4 hr refresh will fit the bill. Although the old was fine by me and i work 40 hours a week and have a toddler
  • Great change so far, did my clear then went to bed, slept for 7 hours straight, which i probably havent done since installing this game. icon_eek.gif
  • I haven't received a Modern Thor in months, and my first opportunity is a feature test? icon_e_sad.gif
  • I don't understand the babysitting here.

    Isn't it up to you whether you want to grind or not and sleep or not?

    I work 40 hrs and make time to do whatever I want. Why is it so hard for others to do the same?
  • Cry-Havok wrote:
    I don't understand the babysitting here.

    Isn't it up to you whether you want to grind or not and sleep or not?

    I work 40 hrs and make time to do whatever I want. Why is it so hard for others to do the same?

    becuase the other want the 3* thor cover. Ok you dont and you are free to everything
  • I think that 8 hours are too much...6 sounds better.
    Especially if I think I have to wait 8 hours to play and the reward are only 20 ISO icon_e_sad.gif or if there are sub event that during only 12 hours!
  • ok, i see limiting rubberbanding. but this change keeps the elite as elite...and busts the casual players to nothing. 400 points for a 200+lvl ares/daken/venom. wth? So i havent been able to place top 150 ever in a pve...even when i was a noob. I usually juts aim for the top progression, which i can generally make. but at this rate, 22k is out of reach big time. i suppose this is exactly what is supposed to happen. being a 3* transition player sucks.
  • i seriously hate these 8 hour refreshes.
  • rawfsu
    rawfsu Posts: 291 Mover and Shaker
    I think the BIGGEST thing with these events, as usual, is if you have the essential character. Plain and simple. I haven't really played The Hunt much, and don't know if I will since I don't have Squirrel Girl, but I've played long enough to know that without her, it's going to be GRIND city. I'm really more focused on getting to 3k in PVP for that Blade cover and seeing if I can push to 4k for that Heroic 10-pack.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    rawfsu wrote:
    I think the BIGGEST thing with these events, as usual, is if you have the essential character. Plain and simple. I haven't really played The Hunt much, and don't know if I will since I don't have Squirrel Girl
    I've got to point out that if you played the previous PvE as much as you're hinting you want to play this one, you would've had at least one SG cover.
  • lukewin
    lukewin Posts: 1,356 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don't know if it's a mere coincidence or the chips falling in the right spots for me, but I love the 8 hr refresh. I am Top 2 in my bracket, have finished Top 2 in the first 2 subs as well. I have stated that I am done trying to go for Top 2, but the combo of the laid back bracket (which I know is just luck) and the 8 hr refresh has helped alleviate my severe PVE burnout. I have also been getting nice token pulls, so that might also have helped me from walking away from MPQ.

    I thought that The Hunt was a pretty bad PVE to test out 8 hr refreshes, because of the amount of nodes that have to be played, overlapping subs, and the sub ending times being awkward, but I have to say I might have been wrong. With the amount of nodes to be played, I'd rather play them less often, and not fall behind too much. I thought a 4 hr refresh might be optimal, because 8h seemed too long, but now I have to say that I am in favor of the 8h refresh. I have time, if I want to play PVP, PVE, the Simulator, and Lightning Rounds, while still having a lot more free time to deal with real life stuff.

    To wrap it up, thanks for the 8 hr refresh. I know a lot of people might not agree with me, but I am a huge fan of the change.
  • brysonian
    brysonian Posts: 21 Just Dropped In
    This event it crazy with the 8 hour lapse and the 2 sets of nodes going at once. I just realized that the 2nd set of nodes it going to reset at 6am. I have a few nodes that have only given me 1 reward and I have run out of time and healthy people to work the nodes properly. There should deffinately be a no iso 20 fix for this event. I have tried working the every 8 hour thing and have too many nodes that have held out on rewards.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    So far, I think this pve system experiment has been WAY less successful than the gauntlet or even survival nodes (the last two big changes in pve).

    The Hunt is an odd choice for this sort of test, with overlapping subs, atypical sub-starting times, and HUGE numbers of nodes to clear (this last one might be intentional, giving players lots of nodes to compensate for longer enforced periods of down time, but I definitely prefer subs like the hulk, which have 1-3 essentials and 4 nodes. that is quite reasonable).

    The prog rewards seem wildly off-base. All bracket leaders have already surpassed the final reward before the end of the first sub in a 5.5 day event. That's even worse than normal, and we are likely to see final scores close to 10x the final prog. terrible.

    And more significantly, while the longer refresh times are an enjoyably slower pace of play, the end-of-sub grinds are now much worse than ever. It is very easily possible to play for 2 straight hours at the end of each sub and lose ground because the bracket leaders played for 4.

    So I applaud the devs for trying, but I strongly, strongly urge them to move more towards the direction of the gauntlet, where difficulty is the reward gatekeeper, rather than some other player's willingness to play the game non-stop and pay for endless healthpacks. (and know that some people like competitive pve and the devs have said it isn't going away, but can we at least get more gauntlet style events and something closer to a 50/50 split, rather than one gauntlet per quarter?)
  • Somehow managed to zap pretty much all the fun of PVE out in one event here (long refresh times, multiple subs running with loads of nodes, massive rush to grab points a the end of each sub etc etc). Mightily impressive. I get this is a test, well done and all that and hopefully things go back to the way they were. Or at least not left like this. From some of the comments it seems some players are happy with this, but pretty much everyone in my Alliance has gone "NOPE" after a few days of this. Horrible.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    Vhailorx wrote:
    can we at least get more gauntlet style events and something closer to a 50/50 split, rather than one gauntlet per quarter?)
    Why does it have to be either/or? Gauntlet should be its own playmode. It doesn't have a whole lot of similarity to standard PvE
  • Lidolas
    Lidolas Posts: 500
    simonsez wrote:
    Vhailorx wrote:
    can we at least get more gauntlet style events and something closer to a 50/50 split, rather than one gauntlet per quarter?)
    Why does it have to be either/or? Gauntlet should be its own playmode. It doesn't have a whole lot of similarity to standard PvE

    I would love to see a weekly LR-style gauntlet event.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    simonsez wrote:
    Vhailorx wrote:
    can we at least get more gauntlet style events and something closer to a 50/50 split, rather than one gauntlet per quarter?)
    Why does it have to be either/or? Gauntlet should be its own playmode. It doesn't have a whole lot of similarity to standard PvE

    A great suggestion! I only posed it as either or because that's how they are set up in the current system: Both are PVE events and because there is only 1 pve event running at any one time, they are mutually exclusive. I would love to see a weekly gauntlet running in parrallel to pve events.