Character Rotations For Season IX (*Updated)

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Are these characters only rotating out of the Standard and Heroic tokens, or are they rotating out of other event tokens as well? I'm unsure as to whether or not I should save my Iso Brotherhood tokens for the character rotation.

This might have been already covered, but admittedly I am lazy and I don't want to read every single post in this thread.

FaustianDeal

Chrono_Tata wrote:

So who wants to bet that once Loki's buff goes live, they will run a PvP with his third cover as the top 5 reward and his PvE event will give out one of his original covers as a progression reward?

The bet I will offer extends on this notion:
Who wants to bet that Loki's new 3rd power is his 'best' ability post rebalance... requiring us to get not only the 3 required to cap him, but an additional 3 to respec him? (Regardless of what the new color is Purple/Black will not be his optimal build post-buff.)

Unknown

I apologize if this has already been asked or addressed elsewhere, but will all of the new (and returning) characters from the rotation be featured in PvP and/or PvE this coming season? That would be a really nice way to appease the folks who are unhappy to see a particular character leave, by saying "just wait till they return; you'll have a chance for some guaranteed (progression and top-100 or whatever) covers."

Dayv

FaustianDeal wrote:

The bet I will offer extends on this notion:
Who wants to bet that Loki's new 3rd power is his 'best' ability post rebalance... requiring us to get not only the 3 required to cap him, but an additional 3 to respec him? (Regardless of what the new color is Purple/Black will not be his optimal build post-buff.)

Well, this isn't what happened with Daken, but people already valued him highly even as a 2-cover character. I'd say you're probably right, if his new power is at all less situational than his black.

Unknown

Does anyone know which tokens the character rotation effects specifically? Is it just Standard and Heroic tokens? Does it effect Event specific tokens, such as Iso Brotherhood or Lethal Intent?

yogi_

das boot wrote:

Does anyone know which tokens the character rotation effects specifically? Is it just Standard and Heroic tokens? Does it effect Event specific tokens, such as Iso Brotherhood or Lethal Intent?

All. If a character is out, they are out across the game and will not be featured events. The exception is the daily rewards, eg. I got a Green Patch a while ago but he wasn't in tokens at the time.

I am keeping a listing of character movements. By the way, if a mod reads this, could they please sticky that thread.

GothicKratos

yogi_ wrote:

das boot wrote:

Does anyone know which tokens the character rotation effects specifically? Is it just Standard and Heroic tokens? Does it effect Event specific tokens, such as Iso Brotherhood or Lethal Intent?

All. If a character is out, they are out across the game and will not be featured events. The exception is the daily rewards, eg. I got a Green Patch a while ago but he wasn't in tokens at the time.

I am keeping a listing of character movements. By the way, if a mod reads this, could they please sticky that thread.

Sent you a message, sir.

SuperBatPoohMan

i dont understand why all covers arent available...if the % of drops cant be done...then why add new characters....just let all cover be avil

ohhh...wait....HP to fill covers not avail...ohhh $$$$$

nvm

glad u guys arent making enough money

GothicKratos

SuperBatPoohMan wrote:

i dont understand why all covers arent available...if the % of drops cant be done...then why add new characters....just let all cover be avil

ohhh...wait....HP to fill covers not avail...ohhh $$$$$

nvm

glad u guys arent making enough money

This is just short-sighted.

If everything was available from the get-go, there'd be no point in playing. Not only would there be no progression, now, suddenly, literally everyone would be using the same team.

mohio

GothicKratos wrote:

SuperBatPoohMan wrote:

i dont understand why all covers arent available...if the % of drops cant be done...then why add new characters....just let all cover be avil

ohhh...wait....HP to fill covers not avail...ohhh $$$$$

nvm

glad u guys arent making enough money

This is just short-sighted.

If everything was available from the get-go, there'd be no point in playing. Not only would there be no progression, now, suddenly, literally everyone would be using the same team.

I think he simply omitted "in token packs" after available. No one should be so silly as to suggest that everyone should have a god account from day 1.

As to what he was attempting to say - I will first concede that characters should be rotating in and out faster than they currently are. Now, do you really want such diluted odds that there is almost no real chance for you to get the cover(s) that you want? As it is with vaulting, odds are already an abysmally low 0.7% that you will pull a single specific character from a heroic token. That's with 20 3* in the pool. Throw in the 11 characters that will be vaulted next season and you have less than 0.5% chance to get that character. Is it such a hardship to hold onto your tokens for a couple weeks if there are seriously NO characters you would like to get lucky and open in a token? By waiting you will then increase your odds of getting the one or two characters you really want the most (assuming there are multiples you need/want and they're all available together) since there is a slightly more realistic chance you will actually open one.

Rotation really does need to happen at a faster rate though. We're going to have characters vaulted for 3 or 4 months at a time eventually and that just doesn't seem like a permanent solution.

GothicKratos

I really feel like it's at a point where rotation is okay, but like you said, it needs to be on smaller time periods. Two weeks sounds right. Weekly sounds like a chore, even moreso if they are going to be working on some of these guys during this time.

That being said, I feel like more characters need to be rotated out, too. By doing this, they can increase the pull percentages across the board and make tokens more satisfying. For example, here, they rotated out five and rotated in five (six if you count 4* Thor). If it were up to me, we'd be rotating 1*s, 2*s, and 3*s and we'd be rotating something like 8-12 characters at a time (that is, based on the amount of character we have right now, it would have to scale with character release to remain relevant). This way, you can distribute a few percent to each of the characters in the 2* and 3* category. It wouldn't be a huge quality of life change, but it would give a better feel for getting something worthwhile, while not making it stupid easy to get everything good.

Spoit

FaustianDeal wrote:

Chrono_Tata wrote:

So who wants to bet that once Loki's buff goes live, they will run a PvP with his third cover as the top 5 reward and his PvE event will give out one of his original covers as a progression reward?

The bet I will offer extends on this notion:
Who wants to bet that Loki's new 3rd power is his 'best' ability post rebalance... requiring us to get not only the 3 required to cap him, but an additional 3 to respec him? (Regardless of what the new color is Purple/Black will not be his optimal build post-buff.)

Well, I mean, unless they drastically nerf his purple, it's pretty much functionally equivalent at 3 vs 5. And they're undoubtedly going to drastically change the cover progression for his black, since -AP is a no no now

SuperBatPoohMan

mohio wrote:

GothicKratos wrote:

SuperBatPoohMan wrote:

i dont understand why all covers arent available...if the % of drops cant be done...then why add new characters....just let all cover be avil

ohhh...wait....HP to fill covers not avail...ohhh $$$$$

nvm

glad u guys arent making enough money

This is just short-sighted.

If everything was available from the get-go, there'd be no point in playing. Not only would there be no progression, now, suddenly, literally everyone would be using the same team.

I think he simply omitted "in token packs" after available. No one should be so silly as to suggest that everyone should have a god account from day 1.

As to what he was attempting to say - I will first concede that characters should be rotating in and out faster than they currently are. Now, do you really want such diluted odds that there is almost no real chance for you to get the cover(s) that you want? As it is with vaulting, odds are already an abysmally low 0.7% that you will pull a single specific character from a heroic token. That's with 20 3* in the pool. Throw in the 11 characters that will be vaulted next season and you have less than 0.5% chance to get that character. Is it such a hardship to hold onto your tokens for a couple weeks if there are seriously NO characters you would like to get lucky and open in a token? By waiting you will then increase your odds of getting the one or two characters you really want the most (assuming there are multiples you need/want and they're all available together) since there is a slightly more realistic chance you will actually open one.

Rotation really does need to happen at a faster rate though. We're going to have characters vaulted for 3 or 4 months at a time eventually and that just doesn't seem like a permanent solution.

ty mohio...basically what i ment...and yes im very short sided

side sided and long sided too

Pylgrim

I'm betting that Loki's new ability will be something that comboes with Trickery. Maybe a Berserker's Rage with protect tiles instead of strike ones?

mohio

He does some shapeshifting in the movies, so now that they got it working for Mystique, they could potentially do something along those lines for Loki too.

Unknown

Also going with what he does in the movies, and to another degree in the comics (although through trickery as opposed to the scepter) I think it would be interestign to have an ability that triggers one of the opposing teams abilities against itself. Perhaps with a stun for that character added in along the way. So kind of like Fastball Special...

A mindcontrol/manipulation type of power.

Unknown

When are we going to see the new updated abilities? Isn't season 9 kind of soon?

Unknown

Phantron wrote:

When are we going to see the new updated abilities? Isn't season 9 kind of soon?

I was going to ask the same thing. We probably will see it tomorrow or the day after.

GrumpySmurf1002

Phantron wrote:

When are we going to see the new updated abilities? Isn't season 9 kind of soon?

With the rate we've been getting information lately, I'd bet on the patch hitting before the forum post.

Unknown

People are too funny. People were upset Loki only had two abilities. People were upset MPQ would not commit to giving 2 abilitiy characters a third in a reasonable amount of time. Now people are complaining a third ability is being added!

One person is complaining that the new ability might be his best. Really, you want them to add a horrible third ability just so the original two can be better?

Others are complaining that they might have to "earn" the cover in pve and/or pvp. What other way have we ever gotten new covers in MPQ?

Maybe instead of improving the game, MPQ should invest resources into bringing Dr. Phil on here for some people.