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  • OnesOwnGrief
    OnesOwnGrief Posts: 1,387 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thanos wrote:
    OnesOwnGrief wrote:
    I skipped the first sub to join a bracket tonight. Sitting in top 10.
    RdVVOdp.jpg

    Is your bracket full yet?
    @329.
  • Ryz-aus
    Ryz-aus Posts: 386
    GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

    To keep up with the times, I've done 3 clears now, plus a break overnight where they went up +15, and Moonstone/Daken/Bullseye is 178 now, Hood is 156. I've wiped on Hood twice, haven't wiped on Moonstone yet. So I'm +22/+19 in about 15 hrs. My other nodes have increased at about the same pace. The easy ones from 34ish->49, the essentials from 84ish->101.

    For comparison, my moonstone/Daken/bullseye are at 265 and hood is at 243. Grumpy and I are in the same bracket and have similar scores, so the difference should mainly be do to the difference in rosters - mine is maxed for psy and torch.
  • ZeroKarma
    ZeroKarma Posts: 513 Critical Contributor
    NorthernPolarity wrote:
    Is everyone really having it that rough? I'm sitting in 3rd at 63k, first is at 73k, 10th is at 54k. I grinded the first sub optimally for a 4k lead over 10th, and I only did 3 clears of the second sub. I'm not seeing this "grind every 2.5 hours or die" type of deal: either you guys are joining way too early and getting into death brackets, or I lucked out into an easy bracket.

    I did join early so that could explain things. I finished 15th or so in the first sub, and I'm second thus far for this sub. In the larger picture though I'm outside of the top 50!! The leader has 40,000 more points than I do. How does that happen?

    ZeroKarma
  • SunCrusher
    SunCrusher Posts: 278 Mover and Shaker
    NorthernPolarity wrote:
    Is everyone really having it that rough? I'm sitting in 3rd at 63k, first is at 73k, 10th is at 54k. I grinded the first sub optimally for a 4k lead over 10th, and I only did 3 clears of the second sub. I'm not seeing this "grind every 2.5 hours or die" type of deal: either you guys are joining way too early and getting into death brackets, or I lucked out into an easy bracket.

    Nope. I think I'm like you. Bearing in mind that I started out this event without Essential!Psylocke and the fact that I joined early and missed a few refreshes, I'm happy to report that I'm actually doing 'okay/good' in terms of progress... I... think?

    I joined fairly early this time seeing that there were subs for once (don't have Psylocke so was afraid it would be more difficult to reach the Final Progression Reward if I didn't spread out my grinding and hit the stupid scaling wall if I joined late AND didn't have Psylocke) and ended up in an okay bracket for both my subs and my main.

    Main (Full): Rank 87 (no Psylocke) - 44040 points, leader has 76915 points - yikes!

    First Sub: Rank 25 (no Psylocke)
    Second Sub: Rank 8 (no Psylocke save for a single clear of Essential!Psylocke owing to finally snagging one in PvP - yay!)

    I started the day the event started, some hours into the Event. I missed a few clears, but played through every node I could twice per session when I could. Rubberbanding in my bracket isn't too huge, I don't think (I did miss some refreshes, but this is why I say RB this time isn't too huge compared to other times), but the scaling went kind of crazy in both subs. The easiest node tanked to bottom while the hardest node shot up.

    That said, I'm more worried I won't make Final Progression Reward at the rate I'm going. I'm doing decently enough given I only now have a Psylocke to do her Essential nodes with, but I'm not sure how to gauge how many more points I will be able to earn to get her cover.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    ZeroKarma wrote:
    NorthernPolarity wrote:
    Is everyone really having it that rough? I'm sitting in 3rd at 63k, first is at 73k, 10th is at 54k. I grinded the first sub optimally for a 4k lead over 10th, and I only did 3 clears of the second sub. I'm not seeing this "grind every 2.5 hours or die" type of deal: either you guys are joining way too early and getting into death brackets, or I lucked out into an easy bracket.

    I did join early so that could explain things. I finished 15th or so in the first sub, and I'm second thus far for this sub. In the larger picture though I'm outside of the top 50!! The leader has 40,000 more points than I do. How does that happen?

    ZeroKarma


    I got the global leader pegged on something like my total 77109 + 10.5k (how far the rubber band says I was behind on the first sub) + 14.5K (how far the rubber band say I am behind this sub) assuming the same person was the global sub leader that gives them a grand total of 102K. So if your main leader score is close to this you know your with the the grinder of all grinders.
  • Ryz-aus
    Ryz-aus Posts: 386
    Sumilea wrote:
    ZeroKarma wrote:
    NorthernPolarity wrote:
    Is everyone really having it that rough? I'm sitting in 3rd at 63k, first is at 73k, 10th is at 54k. I grinded the first sub optimally for a 4k lead over 10th, and I only did 3 clears of the second sub. I'm not seeing this "grind every 2.5 hours or die" type of deal: either you guys are joining way too early and getting into death brackets, or I lucked out into an easy bracket.

    I did join early so that could explain things. I finished 15th or so in the first sub, and I'm second thus far for this sub. In the larger picture though I'm outside of the top 50!! The leader has 40,000 more points than I do. How does that happen?

    ZeroKarma


    I got the global leader pegged on something like my total 77109 + 10.5k (how far the rubber band says I was behind on the first sub) + 14.5K (how far the rubber band say I am behind this sub) assuming the same person was the global sub leader that gives them a grand total of 102K. So if your main leader score is close to this you know your with the the grinder of all grinders.

    In other words - Alfradrod. He's in Hail Hydra and at 101992 - I'm assuming that's a couple people who play at alternate schedules, but maybe he's an insomniac or perhaps a mpq playing robot icon_e_smile.gif
  • SunCrusher
    SunCrusher Posts: 278 Mover and Shaker
    Question: How does one gauge progress, exactly, in relation to the overall Event and Progression Rewards?

    I'm not sure I asked that question correctly but I guess what I am wondering is how do I know if I will be able to earn all my rewards and in a reasonable way given my current progress?

    Is there any way to help calculate/figure it out?

    The reason I ask is because given sharding and brackets, it's possible to either: rank well but progress less well, progress well and rank less well, or an even match of both.

    ... Hope that made sense and thanks in advance.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    For those forumites who may still not have joined:
    The main I joined last night at approximately 7:00PM EST is now, 12 hours later, up to 506 players.

    I think it's highly unlikely that this main will get to 1k prior to the 2nd sub ending.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    SunCrusher wrote:
    Question: How does one gauge progress, exactly, in relation to the overall Event and Progression Rewards?

    Assuming the event finishes like it did last time there will be 5 refreshes + the end grind with no rubber banding. Depending on the difficultly of the nodes and their values it should be possible to score 10K from these. Last time they were 2.2K pre refresh. So you need 110K by the end of the third sub. That would seem to say 30 37 44 split seems a good way to reach that so your looking at trying to be on 67K after this sub. If your are a little short you should be able to claw some of it back by hitting the third sub harder.

    Edit to reduce the numbers a bit I cannot add up correctly.
  • SunCrusher
    SunCrusher Posts: 278 Mover and Shaker
    Sumilea wrote:
    SunCrusher wrote:
    Question: How does one gauge progress, exactly, in relation to the overall Event and Progression Rewards?

    Assuming the event finishes like it did last time there will be 5 refreshes + the end grind with no rubber banding. Depending on the difficultly of the nodes and their values it should be possible to score 10K from these. Last time they were 2.2K pre refresh. So you need 110K by the end of the third sub. That would seem to say 30 37 44 split seems a good way to reach that so your looking at trying to be on 67K after this sub. If your are a little short you should be able to claw some of it back by hitting the third sub harder.

    Edit to reduce the numbers a bit I cannot add up correctly.

    THANK YOU.

    Going to catch up a bit; I missed a bit of refreshing and didn't have Psylocke's nodes open in first sub and only now opened it so I'm behind a bit. Going to see if I can hit 60k before this sub is done though I suspect I will have to work harder on third sub.
  • y2fitzy
    y2fitzy Posts: 255 Mover and Shaker
    Marvellous stuff Sumi, thank you

    Sitting just shy of 60k at the moment so will clearly need a bit of a push in that third sub/main when it opens.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    edited September 2014
    I'm kind of surprised at how much easier the required Psylocke nodes are. 20% more points, at 20% the difficulty. The Hood one is way easier with the boss instead of the thug.

    The 2nd sub-event seems way more competitive; I think I joined too early.
    The 1st one, the top guy had about 34k, whereas in Facilities, the top guy has 39399, #10 at 26724.

    Overall leaders #1, and #2 in this bracket have 67k, #10 at 46k.


    If you're going for overall winner (where the doc-ock prizes are) it seems better to join the first event late, join subevents #2 and #3 early and use rubberbanding to massively increase your score with everyone else in your bracket. You might not get as high hp rewards, but you'll hit the progression rewards easier, and have a better shot at the doc.
  • loroku
    loroku Posts: 1,014 Chairperson of the Boards
    OnesOwnGrief wrote:
    I skipped the first sub to join a bracket tonight. Sitting in top 10.
    RdVVOdp.jpg
    Oh god that is so frustrating. I've got over 1.5x your points and I'm #300. That is absolutely ridiculous. So "tricking out which sub to join" is 100x more important than anything else. I can't believe the difference in the competition is so vast.

    daibar wrote:
    I'm kind of surprised at how much easier the required Psylocke nodes are. 20% more points, at 20% the difficulty. The Hood one is way easier with the boss instead of the thug.
    I managed to snag a Psylocke in the PvP that gave her away and just found this out as well. Her nodes are worth way more and much less difficult, meaning that "essential" basically means "required" for a good finish. The fact that a few more people probably just picked her up might also be why the 2nd sub is more competitive.
    daibar wrote:
    If you're going for overall winner (where the doc-ock prizes are) it seems better to join the first event late, join subevents #2 and #3 early and rubberband. You might not get as high hp rewards, but you'll hit the progression rewards easier, and have a better shot at the doc.
    Apparently the best tactic is to join as late as you dare and then your competition will be like 1/3rd the people who also aren't trying too hard. Still just amazed as how terrible the bracketing is.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    loroku wrote:
    Apparently the best tactic is to join as late as you dare and then your competition will be like 1/3rd the people who also aren't trying too hard. Still just amazed as how terrible the bracketing is.
    The later you join, the more forumites you'll get who know exactly what they're doing, so you'll get pretty fierce competition for t10.

    The only advice that's consistent: Never, ever join in the first 12 hours of an event. Unless you're prepared to grind like mad through the whole event.
  • loroku
    loroku Posts: 1,014 Chairperson of the Boards
    loroku wrote:
    I've got over 1.5x your points and I'm #300. That is absolutely ridiculous.
    Yeah I checked: the point total that would make me #1 in your bracket makes me #300 in mine. So frustrating.

    "Joining late" to go against some forum-ites? Uh, yes please. There are dozens of people on the forum, and thousands that play the game. Still way better odds.

    Oh, I just understood that you meant "top 10" competition will be tough. Yes: I would gladly give up the top 10 to get in the top 150. GLADLY. As it stands I am fighting like mad for the top 400, so anything is better than that.
  • user311
    user311 Posts: 482 Mover and Shaker
    For the node with Hood and goons, am I wrong in expecting Hood to use intimidation on the goods CD tiles? Since thats kind of the point? Why then on every match is he shooting that off before they even put down a tile?
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    user311 wrote:
    For the node with Hood and goons, am I wrong in expecting Hood to use intimidation on the goods CD tiles? Since thats kind of the point? Why then on every match is he shooting that off before they even put down a tile?
    Because he can? icon_lol.gif
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    user311 wrote:
    For the node with Hood and goons, am I wrong in expecting Hood to use intimidation on the goods CD tiles? Since thats kind of the point? Why then on every match is he shooting that off before they even put down a tile?

    Because the AI doesn't care, or more specifically doesn't even know what it does. It sees "I have 9AP black" and off it goes.
  • HairyDave
    HairyDave Posts: 1,574
    I don't think I've wiped on a single node in any PVE more than I have on "If I Can't Have It"

    I've tried it six times, and wiped on four of those. Sentry just keeps getting green cascades almost immediately and there's really nothing you can do when he's World Rupturing on the second turn. This was the best effort so far:

    2014-09-30_00001.jpg

    That's what I was left with after the second turn rupturing - the AI only had TUAP before it went off. Guess what happened next turn icon_rolleyes.gif
  • FierceKiwi
    FierceKiwi Posts: 505 Critical Contributor
    loroku wrote:
    loroku wrote:
    I've got over 1.5x your points and I'm #300. That is absolutely ridiculous.
    Yeah I checked: the point total that would make me #1 in your bracket makes me #300 in mine. So frustrating.

    "Joining late" to go against some forum-ites? Uh, yes please. There are dozens of people on the forum, and thousands that play the game. Still way better odds.

    Oh, I just understood that you meant "top 10" competition will be tough. Yes: I would gladly give up the top 10 to get in the top 150. GLADLY. As it stands I am fighting like mad for the top 400, so anything is better than that.

    What makes you think "joining late" would be any better? You'd probably just be about 300th but with half the points and no chance at progression rewards.

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