Balance of Power - Aug 29 - 31 - Season V

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  • Well my chances of top 5 are dropping all the time. Colognoisseur has just shown their head in the top 10. At least I do not need the covers but might respec she-hulk from 5/4/4 to 5/3/5 as I cannot ever see me using her green.
  • What teams have been getting defensive success? At first Jug/OBW/Ares was netting about even on wins/losses but since then I've been hit for another 120ish points. Are there teams that have deterred attacks effectively or won frequently on defense, or is the point loss inevitable with the level equality?
  • The first run of BOP was amazing for me. I had about 50/50 on defense with ares/ obw / tinydaken, and the whole event I never lost on offense. This run I have obw devoted to pve so she seldom makes it into a battle, but I've tried to leave her up on defense. Not a single defensive win as of yet, and the Ai has serious wtfpwnd me hard with cascades. One match saw unstoppable crash start a chain that wiped out ares from almost full health.

    Juggy/ ares/ tinydaken doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent. I've lost to it, but like I said , no defense wins and it gets hit plenty often.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    Jjosh wrote:
    or is the point loss inevitable with the level equality?
    Yes. Once you bust past the noob zone, defensive wins pretty much vanish, and you'll get hammered regardless of whom you put up.
  • Im in similar situation as locked, it seems only franckyknight and Emu from NJusticeLeauge are going for #1. Since francky has already maxed Fury Ive hope he can pass this pvp, would be nice to know if I need to fight like crazy or if I just could go to bed and sleep.
  • That's what it's like when everybody has access to the same Characters.
    I don't like the retaliation system much for this. The damage is scaled so high that you can take out basically everyone even with a lvl 1 Juggernaut.
    The way the ranking is established is people don't retaliate against people who have a better roster, so you stay above them. But now it doesn't matter. I leave Juggs/OBW/Ares out on defense and people keep hitting me. I suspect half their team dies in the fight. Red, Green, Yellow and Purple are all pretty much lethal in that team.
    The event is fine once a season, but not something I would put up on a regular basis. There is the hope that people wisen up with future iterations and skip certain teams if they can avoid it. Just because you can beat a team, doesn't mean you should use 3 Healthpacks for it.

    And for what it's worth I think it was a huge mistake to buff unmaxed chars to 270. Juggs and Daken regenerate up to full health in 25 Minutes so people have no problem getting torn apart during their battles.
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    Early on, Ares/baby Daken/either oBW or Juggs worked well for me. Juggs or Ares + Hood + oBW: 2 supports for the tanky DPS. Lots of playable teams this time around. I prefer the rainbow variety, so I ran through Patchneto/Hood to Thorneto/Hood to Sentry/Daken/Hood and switched to BP/Magneto/Juggernaut when Hood dropped thanks to Sentry being inconsiderate to his own teammates.
    Human Torch, lazy Cap and lazy Thor do more damage than their 2* counterparts, but 2* Daken has higher match damage than lazy Daken, so he can tank green for all rarities while lazy Daken can only tank green for fellow 3*s. While 1*s and 2*s can definitely wreak havoc with their match damage, 3*s still have better abilities, especially AoE and strike tile abilities, soooo... balance?

    Oh, and my situation with Fury is looking very bright at the moment, so that's like another birthday present. Shinyashes and Smokecat of X-Men are officially nicest X-Men dudes since Mikeydollar (I just don't know them much).
  • Vohnkar
    Vohnkar Posts: 158 Tile Toppler
    PPPlaya wrote:
    That's what it's like when everybody has access to the same Characters.
    I don't like the retaliation system much for this. The damage is scaled so high that you can take out basically everyone even with a lvl 1 Juggernaut.
    The way the ranking is established is people don't retaliate against people who have a better roster, so you stay above them. But now it doesn't matter. I leave Juggs/OBW/Ares out on defense and people keep hitting me. I suspect half their team dies in the fight. Red, Green, Yellow and Purple are all pretty much lethal in that team.
    The event is fine once a season, but not something I would put up on a regular basis. There is the hope that people wisen up with future iterations and skip certain teams if they can avoid it. Just because you can beat a team, doesn't mean you should use 3 Healthpacks for it.

    And for what it's worth I think it was a huge mistake to buff unmaxed chars to 270. Juggs and Daken regenerate up to full health in 25 Minutes so people have no problem getting torn apart during their battles.

    Thats the beauty and fun of this event, being able to be competitive against any other roster if you have the covers in the characters. I would like to see more events like these, I miss the dark avengers event, wolvie, no mans land... not saying they should do only those events, just every now and then so we can have some variety and try other characters. And to be able touse those big roster slots we spend so many hp to have icon_e_smile.gif
  • Sure people who have lots of covers can cycle through their whole roster but I assume my 1/1/2 Sentry is not going to be as effective as I want him to be.
  • My most successful defensive team has been Juggs/tinydaken/OBW. It's based on the three H's: Healing, Headbutts, and Hella strike tiles. No ability overlap so the AI can't misplay it and I think attackers face a tough choice for who to try and take out first. Plus OBW does a bunch of bonus damage when it's raining strike tiles. So far I'm probably close to +80-90 from defensive wins. Maybe more.
  • I have all the 1* and 2* cover chars any ideas on who to use in bop? except obw and cstorm cause im using it in pve
  • SirPhobos wrote:
    My most successful defensive team has been Juggs/tinydaken/OBW. It's based on the three H's: Healing, Headbutts, and Hella strike tiles. No ability overlap so the AI can't misplay it and I think attackers face a tough choice for who to try and take out first. Plus OBW does a bunch of bonus damage when it's raining strike tiles. So far I'm probably close to +80-90 from defensive wins. Maybe more.

    That isn't a hard choice. It's OBW hands down. Any player who can worm past 700 will know that.
  • Shielded to the end at 814. Feel free to attack me - I won't unshield. If anyone wants to do me a huge favor and lose to me for 6 points, it'll move me up three places. Right now I'm #10 and not optimistic about staying top ten. I don't need the covers so it's not a huge deal.

    I really slacked on this and had anticipated sliding in at 600 or so points, and then I found four ~45 point nodes in a row. This was a weird one.
  • Mwoh Vet! How could you! We were brothers once! If I don't get first, I'm demanding a Fury cover out of your X-Men salary
  • HairyDave
    HairyDave Posts: 1,574
    How many times must I cross the 800 point threshold before I get to hold onto it? I've been across it at least five times so far icon_evil.gif
  • HairyDave wrote:
    How many times must I cross the 800 point threshold before I get to hold onto it? I've been across it at least five times so far icon_evil.gif

    So six times? icon_e_confused.gif
    Go, Dave! We believe in you icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • OnesOwnGrief
    OnesOwnGrief Posts: 1,387 Chairperson of the Boards
    HairyDave wrote:
    How many times must I cross the 800 point threshold before I get to hold onto it? I've been across it at least five times so far icon_evil.gif
    I shield-hopped to it when I noticed I could hit 40+ matches with no problem.
  • HairyDave
    HairyDave Posts: 1,574
    I didn't want to shield-hop but I may have to.

    Time to see what my baby Sentry/Daken/Hood team can do.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Oh hi there hairydave, pretty please don't knock me out of top 5? icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • HairyDave
    HairyDave Posts: 1,574
    I'll try not to.

    I've parked it in 6th about 20 points behind so one defensive win might get me there.