Blatant cheat - AKN

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In the "BROTHER" alliance with a lvl 999 hawkeye and hitting ppl real fast in current fury event. So beware....

Incidentally the hawkeye doesn't seem to show now when u look at his roster but did when I clicked on his name on the notification when he hit me. Have sent the screenshot to CS

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Every character maxed, also bagwoman. Not even Colognoisseur has done that. Smells fishy. But then again, its xmen complaining. You know, those who stay shielded in sim the whole season ^.^

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kelrov wrote:

Every character maxed, also bagwoman. Not even Colognoisseur has done that. Smells fishy.

He is doing that, though. Slowly but steadily.
But yes, anyone who has more characters maxed than Colognoisseur, and faster, must be a shady type.

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kelrov wrote:

Every character maxed, also bagwoman. Not even Colognoisseur has done that. Smells fishy. But then again, its xmen complaining. You know, those who stay shielded in sim the whole season ^.^

I did my complaining to CS - was just alerting others so they could avoid him. And I've seen a few maxed rosters but never a level 999 hawkeye.....

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mikeydollar7 wrote:

kelrov wrote:

Every character maxed, also bagwoman. Not even Colognoisseur has done that. Smells fishy. But then again, its xmen complaining. You know, those who stay shielded in sim the whole season ^.^

I did my complaining to CS - was just alerting others so they could avoid him. And I've seen a few maxed rosters but never a level 999 hawkeye.....

Thanks for the heads up.

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What about purtorico from the xmen 2? Some nobody without any max characters somehow has 1900 points right now in the fury pvp? absolutely no way that's legit with his roster. They just keep adding more and more cheaters to replace the old it seems?

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sms4002 wrote:

What about purtorico from the xmen 2? Some nobody without any max characters somehow has 1900 points right now in the fury pvp? absolutely no way that's legit with his roster. They just keep adding more and more cheaters to replace the old it seems?

PR isn't a nobody. He's a great teammate and he's been shield hopping all day and all last night. I know this because I've been doing it with him. What cheaters have we had? Who have we had sandboxed? Perhaps there was someone before I was here but definitely nobody in the last 2 months.

Are you the resident crybaby now? Every time someone does something that you can't/wont do they're cheating? Get used to it... We're #1 and we aren't going anywhere. Everyone thought Xm were cheating when 3 guys got 2000 in a PvP but now people do it all the time. People thought flo was cheating when he was scoring high in PvPs with just Sentry/Daken before they realized how good Sentry was. How about Hyperion? He doesn't have many max characters and he's sitting at just under 1900 now. I was scoring some of the highest pvp scores before I even joined Xmen by mostly using Patch and Magneto. Was I cheating? Am I cheating? Maestro hit 2k in a PvP and he's not in Xmen... Shamsali was close. Are they cheating?

If everyone spent more time improving themselves and their alliances perhaps some of you could compete with us instead of whining and spreading rumors about us those who don't know any better.

Anyway ... Back to the topic AKN was sandboxed. He was in both my Season and Fury brackets and is now gone. He went from 800 to 1400 in about 15 minutes with presumably his 999 hawkeye that he removed after his scoring run.

Puertorico

sms4002 wrote:

What about purtorico from the xmen 2? Some nobody without any max characters somehow has 1900 points right now in the fury pvp? absolutely no way that's legit with his roster. They just keep adding more and more cheaters to replace the old it seems?

Not cheating just smart shield hoping. If you want to make sure I'm not cheating try getting stuck in my bracket next pvp, see if you can catch up. No one in the xmen cheat just out score everyone so we get accused of cheating. Makes no sense to me. I get a lot of help from my fellow xmen. World runner, soundwave, mikeydollar, etc etc.

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sms4002 wrote:

What about purtorico from the xmen 2? Some nobody without any max characters somehow has 1900 points right now in the fury pvp? absolutely no way that's legit with his roster. They just keep adding more and more cheaters to replace the old it seems?

First time I've ever down-voted anyone on this forum. But if you want to come out with this old rubbish & zero evidence then sorry you deserve it.

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Its all about timing, good alliance, and most importantly. Shield hopping... if you k ow how to use ur ap boosts and the characters u use u will never get the scores we do. There are plenty of people who know how to do this. Stopp calling us cheaters if you cant understand how we make the points or just join an alliance and most of them will teach you. Hell i started off only ever making 900-1k. Now im nearing 2k this pvp with an average of 1500 per pvp. Its all about the knowledge.

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WorldRunner wrote:

sms4002 wrote:

What about purtorico from the xmen 2? Some nobody without any max characters somehow has 1900 points right now in the fury pvp? absolutely no way that's legit with his roster. They just keep adding more and more cheaters to replace the old it seems?

PR isn't a nobody. He's a great teammate and he's been shield hopping all day and all last night. I know this because I've been doing it with him. What cheaters have we had? Who have we had sandboxed? Perhaps there was someone before I was here but definitely nobody in the last 2 months.

Are you the resident crybaby now? Every time someone does something that you can't/wont do they're cheating? Get used to it... We're #1 and we aren't going anywhere. Everyone thought Xm were cheating when 3 guys got 2000 in a PvP but now people do it all the time. People thought flo was cheating when he was scoring high in PvPs with just Sentry/Daken before they realized how good Sentry was. How about Hyperion? He doesn't have many max characters and he's sitting at just under 1900 now. I was scoring some of the highest pvp scores before I even joined Xmen by mostly using Patch and Magneto. Was I cheating? Am I cheating? Maestro hit 2k in a PvP and he's not in Xmen... Shamsali was close. Are they cheating?

If everyone spent more time improving themselves and their alliances perhaps some of you could compete with us instead of whining and spreading rumors about us those who don't know any better.

Anyway ... Back to the topic AKN was sandboxed. He was in both my Season and Fury brackets and is now gone. He went from 800 to 1400 in about 15 minutes with presumably his 999 hawkeye that he removed after his scoring run.

I am no longer on X-Men and agree with WR's entire post.

PR started shield hopping hard at the end of s4 with us in X-Men and learned correctly and is now a scoring beast. Funny how it's okay for others to score high but when X-Men do it, OBVIOUS CHEATERS. Go ahead and report PR since you're so sure he's a cheater and there's no way he can score with his roster. Better yet do a retirement agreement if he isn't sand boxed for cheating then you quit MPQ forever. Jealously reigns supreme in this forum.

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WorldRunner wrote:

sms4002 wrote:

What about purtorico from the xmen 2? Some nobody without any max characters somehow has 1900 points right now in the fury pvp? absolutely no way that's legit with his roster. They just keep adding more and more cheaters to replace the old it seems?

PR isn't a nobody. He's a great teammate and he's been shield hopping all day and all last night. I know this because I've been doing it with him. What cheaters have we had? Who have we had sandboxed? Perhaps there was someone before I was here but definitely nobody in the last 2 months.

Are you the resident crybaby now? Every time someone does something that you can't/wont do they're cheating? Get used to it... We're #1 and we aren't going anywhere. Everyone thought Xm were cheating when 3 guys got 2000 in a PvP but now people do it all the time. People thought flo was cheating when he was scoring high in PvPs with just Sentry/Daken before they realized how good Sentry was. How about Hyperion? He doesn't have many max characters and he's sitting at just under 1900 now. I was scoring some of the highest pvp scores before I even joined Xmen by mostly using Patch and Magneto. Was I cheating? Am I cheating? Maestro hit 2k in a PvP and he's not in Xmen... Shamsali was close. Are they cheating?

If everyone spent more time improving themselves and their alliances perhaps some of you could compete with us instead of whining and spreading rumors about us those who don't know any better.

Anyway ... Back to the topic AKN was sandboxed. He was in both my Season and Fury brackets and is now gone. He went from 800 to 1400 in about 15 minutes with presumably his 999 hawkeye that he removed after his scoring run.

Very well said. Yet they will still complain like they always do.hahahaha

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WorldRunner wrote:

If everyone spent more time improving themselves and their alliances perhaps some of you could compete with us instead of whining and spreading rumors about us those who don't know any better.

I'm confused by this statement. Isn't PvP just Sentry + who cares + boosts + coordinated shield hopping? Are you suggesting that teamwork is more important than the amount of HP you spend? No malice intended, just genuinely curious about your reasoning.

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gobstopper wrote:

WorldRunner wrote:

If everyone spent more time improving themselves and their alliances perhaps some of you could compete with us instead of whining and spreading rumors about us those who don't know any better.

I'm confused by this statement. Isn't PvP just Sentry + who cares + boosts + coordinated shield hopping? Are you suggesting that teamwork is more important than the amount of HP you spend? No malice intended, just genuinely curious about your reasoning.

Improving ourselves? Don't you mean spending more money/hp than everyone else???

Flare808

gobstopper wrote:

WorldRunner wrote:

If everyone spent more time improving themselves and their alliances perhaps some of you could compete with us instead of whining and spreading rumors about us those who don't know any better.

I'm confused by this statement. Isn't PvP just Sentry + who cares + boosts + coordinated shield hopping? Are you suggesting that teamwork is more important than the amount of HP you spend? No malice intended, just genuinely curious about your reasoning.

Yes- I'd say teamwork is the most important aspect of X. There are tons of people out there with max sentry that don't approach our scores. Yes, there is HP involved, but spending those HP with a solid alliance(s) is much more effective than sentry bombing random people.

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Flare808 wrote:

gobstopper wrote:

WorldRunner wrote:

If everyone spent more time improving themselves and their alliances perhaps some of you could compete with us instead of whining and spreading rumors about us those who don't know any better.

I'm confused by this statement. Isn't PvP just Sentry + who cares + boosts + coordinated shield hopping? Are you suggesting that teamwork is more important than the amount of HP you spend? No malice intended, just genuinely curious about your reasoning.

Yes- I'd say teamwork is the most important aspect of X. There are tons of people out there with max sentry that don't approach our scores. Yes, there is HP involved, but spending those HP with a solid alliance(s) is much more effective than sentry bombing random people.

Is it not reasonable to claim that other people don't approach your scores not because they can't, but because they don't want to? To qualify this statement, I would like to know how much $ you guys spend to reach your high scores.

GothicKratos

If it's not obvious, it's teamwork because a lot of them shield hop off of each other. They tell each other when they're shielded so other people in their Alliance and in their bracket can hit them for a solid chunk of points without them losing their own standing. It's a perfectly valid strategy and does require coordination.

Flare808

gobstopper wrote:

Is it not reasonable to claim that other people don't approach your scores not because they can't, but because they don't want to? To qualify this statement, I would like to know how much $ you guys spend to reach your high scores.

My original point was that teamwork is crucial to getting high scores. It is a commonly known fact that X does have a chat to coordinate. Let's pit Person X versus Person Y. X is in an alliance with other high scorers. Y is in another, not as high scoring alliance. Person X can easily get quality q's whenever needed. Person Y has to either get lucky, sit there burning ISO skipping for good targets, or settle on suboptimal targets. In this scenario, Person X will score higher, unless Person Y spends more HP to counteract the inefficiencies. Person X is relatively safe because his/her alliance will not attack them. Person Y has no such defense. That's where the teamwork pays off and why I think teamwork trumps raw HP expenditure.

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Flare808 wrote:

gobstopper wrote:

Is it not reasonable to claim that other people don't approach your scores not because they can't, but because they don't want to? To qualify this statement, I would like to know how much $ you guys spend to reach your high scores.

My original point was that teamwork is crucial to getting high scores. It is a commonly known fact that X does have a chat to coordinate. Let's pit Person X versus Person Y. X is in an alliance with other high scorers. Y is in another, not as high scoring alliance. Person X can easily get quality q's whenever needed. Person Y has to either get lucky, sit there burning ISO skipping for good targets, or settle on suboptimal targets. In this scenario, Person X will score higher, unless Person Y spends more HP to counteract the inefficiencies. Person X is relatively safe because his/her alliance will not attack them. Person Y has no such defense. That's where the teamwork pays off and why I think teamwork trumps raw HP expenditure.

If I understand correctly, your point is that teamwork allows you minimize HP spend. So how much HP do you spend on average per PvP? If this amount is much less than the amount a non-X-Men player would have to spend to reach the same score, then perhaps you have made your case.

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Puertorico wrote:

sms4002 wrote:

What about purtorico from the xmen 2? Some nobody without any max characters somehow has 1900 points right now in the fury pvp? absolutely no way that's legit with his roster. They just keep adding more and more cheaters to replace the old it seems?

Not cheating just smart shield hoping. If you want to make sure I'm not cheating try getting stuck in my bracket next pvp, see if you can catch up. No one in the xmen cheat just out score everyone so we get accused of cheating. Makes no sense to me. I get a lot of help from my fellow xmen. World runner, soundwave, mikeydollar, etc etc.

Be fair, you are at least a little bit trolling with that lineup. You have enough HP to shieldhop to 2000+ but don't max your characters. Especially the Sentry (if you are using him to shieldhop) is by almost 30 Levels underlevelled. Since he hits himself all the time giving him a couple more Health seems elementary. But maybe you are ISO-Broke or gaming the MMR somehow, who knows.
He should've made a less incendiary post but his doubts were well-founded. I don't know why this doesn't make sense to you. The top performers are always accused of cheating. That's not a MPQ exclusive thing. Atheletes are accused of doping, FPS players are accused of aimbotting. Accusations of foul play coming your way when you are standing at the top is and always will be rampant.
Whenever you or the other X-Men are accused of cheating you should take it as a great compliment because apparently some people don't think those stats are possible.

Since you mentioned that you heavily abuse shieldbouncing by coordinating climbs, I do believe you are gaming the system. That doesn't seem like something the devs intented to be a thing but it just a sideeffect of the PVP system. Probably shouldn't mention it too often, otherwise more people will try it and it might get curtailed.
(Maybe that's the reason? PR shields up and leaves an unmaxed team as defense so the other teammates can harvest the points more easily when there arent any seed teams to beat? *puts tinfoil hat on* )

Flare808

gobstopper wrote:

If I understand correctly, your point is that teamwork allows you minimize HP spend. So how much HP do you spend on average per PvP?

On average? Usually 0 HP. This PvP- about 600 net HP. Yes, that's right, I spent more HP than I earned this PvP. You might ask why? As has been mentioned before by others, this is a hobby, and most hobbies cost money. I paid for the entertainment, thrill of shield hopping, and camaraderie of friends in X. Could have spent it on booze or other games, but chose MPQ (I know that isn't a popular choice, but oh well).

gobstopper wrote:

If this amount is much less than the amount a non-X-Men player would have to spend to reach the same score, then perhaps you have made your case.

My point is that there is no one who will make it to a high score without a solid alliance to back them up. It's not that SHIELD or 5DV cannot attain the same scores, they can. They might spend more or less HP than me, though I'd wager that to reach comparable scores, they'd spend a tad more. Even if they are as efficient, they did so with the help of their alliance, which is my point. I've been saying all along teamwork is more important than an HP bank. If you don't believe a member of X, look at all the 5DX members singing their praises for how their scores increased after joining 5DX. If you'd also like to PM reckless, dave, shamsali, dogfather, etc. I'm sure you'd find that they each spend HP every PvP as well. Let me know when a guy from a no name alliance can brute force their way up the scoreboard with just pure HP expenditure.

P.S. And yes, I did say 0 HP average per event. I wasn't with X1 last season, but previously and have returned. There is 450 HP available each PvP. There's 6-3 hour shields in that, more than needed for a 1300+ score. I have to thank the higher scorers in X for that though.