True Healing Discussion (Live 6/25)

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You can add me to the list of people who will NEVER buy health packs.

Deimos12

Has anyone noticed these supposed increased regen times? My mags at 1100/5800 health is taking 3.5 hours to regen. That doesn't seem like 2.5X what I remember it being......

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so.. if they remove prologue healing, then i guess we'll see:
-5 same builds OBW in same roster
-several patch/ldaken cuz they can prologue heal
that's sadly..

is this change will finally give to Ldaken regen rate as wolvie/daken have?(x2)

my opinion about OBW/spidey heals:
i.e. if start battle with thor 2100/5430 then u can heal in battle to full, BUT when u leave battle ur HP will be 2100, this thing prevent prologue heal, but it give us chance play longer

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Rajjeq wrote:

Isn't it interesting how "good" stuff takes for-freaking-ever (WRU character buffs, goon countdown id, a second server hamster, etc.) but stuff we hate always moves at the speed of light?

I suspect it's more that the devs don't *announce* the bad stuff until they absolutely have to, i.e., right before it goes live.

I've been playing with this for five minutes and already I despise it worse than I'd thought. Every time you take damage it's like a clock winding down on your play session.

Broken Age is good. A bit too easy, and parts of the story get a little weird, but it's still a lot of fun.

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Deimos12 wrote:

Has anyone noticed these supposed increased regen times? My mags at 1100/5800 health is taking 3.5 hours to regen. That doesn't seem like 2.5X what I remember it being......

Maybe you need to play with Magneto, had same issue with OBW, after fight regen time drops from 3:49 to 2:12.

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SnowcaTT wrote:

3* folks : no biggie, we never heal.
2* folks : um...we don't have enough characters to play anymore.

I wonder which group pays them more? I'm really not sure. 3* buy HP for covers presumably, but 2* will eventually get to that, and in the meantime they have to pay for character slots.

I guess I should work on maxing my backup team of Bullseye/Bagman/Daken. A team of 69s will supplement my real characters real well.

SnowcaTT

BelligerentGnu wrote:

Rajjeq wrote:

Isn't it interesting how "good" stuff takes for-freaking-ever (WRU character buffs, goon countdown id, a second server hamster, etc.) but stuff we hate always moves at the speed of light?

I suspect it's more that the devs don't *announce* the bad stuff until they absolutely have to, i.e., right before it goes live.

I've been playing with this for five minutes and already I despise it worse than I'd thought. Every time you take damage it's like a clock winding down on your play session.

Broken Age is good. A bit too easy, and parts of the story get a little weird, but it's still a lot of fun.

What I've already noticed is I'm using less strategy (let's save this move until I need it) and more desperation (must use this move right now...it might save me a few hitpoints so I can play once more...).

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Weird changes. Probably good to me, as I can never play long sessions, don't play with Spidey or OBW and don't use prologue for healing (so I have to connect from time to time to finish in the top 50) And bad for the 99% of the players.
We will see how it works, but I think we will probably see more shielding and less people focused in the last 3 hours of each event.

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I made an account specifically to come in here and post my opinion about this issue, as it really bugs the **** out of me that you implemented this.

I haven't bothered to read the 31 pages of complaints and discussion about this because quite frankly, I don't have the time or desire. However, I'd like to make my opinion known.

People have already dumped tons of money into buying coins and ISO in this game to advance, and you nerf the best characters in the game because you want people to buy more health packs under the guise of "balancing" and "removing prologue healing".

This change makes it so that unless you do one of the following, you can only play 1-2 matches every 4-7 hours:
1) Buy health packs
2) Buy tons of ISO and level lots of characters
3) Spend inordinate amounts of time grinding for tiny amounts of ISO so that you can level 1 2 star character up to 85 every 2 weeks or so.

This is clearly a money grab from an already rich game publisher. Yes, I've paid money in the past to this game to get extra character slots. I now have a bad taste in my mouth at this knee-jerk reaction to OBW having awesome healing abilities. There are plenty of ways you could have fixed OBW that didn't involve nerfing the entire healing system to force people to buy health packs.

Screw you. You can be assured that I will not spend any more than the money I've already spent on this game.

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Jdberia wrote:

As bad as the devs are about listening to the customers before implementing changes, I honestly thought that the level of outrage this caused would at least cause them to think about this a little longer. Obviously they were ready to hit the GO button when the OP was posted. I am pissed but I will stick around and see how bad gameplay will be affected for somebody trying to build a 3* roster, like me. I was actually starting to make real progress too.

When money talks all other voices fall silent. Today is a milestone for MPQ. And just like that, the Dark Age begins.

simonsez

deadlylol wrote:

my opinion about OBW/spidey heals:
i.e. if start battle with thor 2100/5430 then u can heal in battle to full, BUT when u leave battle ur HP will be 2100, this thing prevent prologue heal, but it give us chance play longer

You can play longer by entering a battle at 2100 instead of 5430? Interesting logic. And I wonder what your opponent will be doing from the start of a battle while you're trying to get your 27 blues.

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I'm really close to leave the game. As no shopper i spend more time to build characters... It's fair, but this patch si called "spend money to play". Our playgroup will post negative reviews on AppStore and googleplay and eventually stop playing

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this is balls. now i think i will stop playing. just increases things for ppl who spend real money and gives the rest of use a bigger disadvantage.
i bust my balls eveyday to get where i do in the seasons using black widow to help me keep up with the rest of the guys thats play. i refuse to spend my hard eard cash on this game and now you have given me a reason to uninstall it

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SnowcaTT wrote:

Toxicadam wrote:

fidsah wrote:

I don't see how my four 2* characters can compete for any 3* covers now.

Why you just need to have a diverse roster! You have so many other capable 2* heros to choose from ... ohhh nevermind.

I see this comment/problem over and over in all the threads about this.

3* folks : no biggie, we never heal.
2* folks : um...we don't have enough characters to play anymore.

I wonder which group pays them more? I'm really not sure. 3* buy HP for covers presumably, but 2* will eventually get to that, and in the meantime they have to pay for character slots.

This.

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panicellu wrote:

I'm really close to leave the game. As no shopper i spend more time to build characters... It's fair, but this patch si called "spend money to play". Our playgroup will post negative reviews on AppStore and googleplay and eventually stop playing

Review posted.

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AngryHulk wrote:

panicellu wrote:

I'm really close to leave the game. As no shopper i spend more time to build characters... It's fair, but this patch si called "spend money to play". Our playgroup will post negative reviews on AppStore and googleplay and eventually stop playing

Review posted.

Same here, 1* with "true healing" explanation.

Realstuff_NameChange

hazychance wrote:

Honestly, the only thing that the developers will probably respond to is the app rating taking a hit due to the change. Working for a tech company, bad ratings and reviews on an app are what we pay the most attention to, more than forums or online chatter. Social media is a close second, but this game isn't large enough currently that a social media push would do much. Think about how people for the company were tweeting about the number of times the app has been downloaded, etc.

I don't want to advocate a ratings spam on the app, because I don't really believe that will accomplish much. They will see it as a spam and disregard. But if you feel it's a 1 star game after the healing nerf, you should rate it as such. So much of the marketing that the developer does for this game talks about how the ratings are great, and IGN loves it, and it's in the top downloads list. There's no better way to make your opinion felt than that aspect, since the multi-page thread here hasn't done much. A drop in the rating could mean less people would download the game, and that will hit the developer where it hurts.

I personally want to see how it goes now that the changes are live. But I rate apps how I see them. And if I think it's really **** after this, I will rate it as such. And I encourage everyone else to do the same. If you think it's 5 star after, then rate it as such!

On the steam store for the pc version, the game has 82% negative reviews (out of 1,172). Nearly all of the comments are about the harsh p2w/p2progress wall.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/234330/

FadeToOne

Maybe D3 hired Don Mattrick?

"Fortunately there's a product for people who aren't able to buy a bunch of health packs; it's called Xbox 360"

rixmith

I'm trying to get somewhere in the Lightning Round, but, of course, my Doom gets beat down quickly, therefore he needs health packs. And do I really want to use lots of health packs on a LR? No. And let's see what it is doing for my opponent's team diversity... Ares/Widow (skip) Thor/Widow (skip), Ares/Widow (skip), Wolvie/Widow (skip), Ares/Widow. Wow, this is much better! Not.

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SnowcaTT wrote:

Steam Summer Sale is on, horray! Haven't hit up Broken Age yet, I'll try that.

I am waiting for Elder Sign to go on sale for months, but still nothing. Damn you FFG and your pricing model.